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Senate Bill Would Approve US Role in Libya RETROACTIVELY

WASHINGTON (AFP - Via Activist Post) - Two "top" US senators on Tuesday introduced a bill that would retroactively support America's military role in Libya, amid a raging debate over whether President Barack Obama flouted the law by not getting prior congressional approval.

McCain:

"I believe we will find a strong, bipartisan majority that is in favor of authorizing our current military operations in Libya and seeing this mission through to success."

Kerry:

"This resolution authorizes the limited use of American forces in a supporting role. It says specifically that the Senate does not support the use of ground troops in Libya."

Paul:

"[I will vote against it.] I will have a resolution that will replace it. In my resolution, I will say that the President is in violation of the War Powers Act, and he should obey the War Powers Act and disengage."

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Our Imperial Senate is in violation of the Law.....

We already vetoed the TSA legislation.

You can bet we will veto this as well!

Senator Schumer is not a Senator, he is a Dictator. A real Clinton-Rockefeller son right down to the letter.

The President has no authority to grant himself transactional immunity after beginning three new wars. The CEO's of Google have been called to the Judiciary to answer to the American mobs for their crimes. What they are doing is not going to go down with normal Americans, invading & occupying for theft.

Well what do we have here?

Two senators supporting the Libya. Two CFR members, with Kerry being a Skull & Bones member just like George Bush Jr., Sr., and Prescott Bush.

"If a republican government fails..."

"If a republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws." - Noah Webster, "History of the United States. 1832"

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I don't see anything in the Constitution that allows either

Congress or the President to initiate hostilities against anyone.

I see Congress has the power to declare War.

Thus, they have the sole and exclusive power to declare that a state of war exists between the United States of America, and some other nation. This cannot be done absent an actual state of War already existing. It is the recognition that one such state already exists, and this would be due to an attack ON us, by some other nation.

I suppose if we started it, the President could ask for a declaration to formalize it, but that would be about it.

The purpose of a War declaration is to lay out the cause for pledging resources to the President, calling forth the Army and Navy, and directing the President to CONCLUDE the war.

Congress also has the power to issue letters of Marque and Reprisal. These tools are reserved and useful for non-state actors - e.g - Osama Bin Hide'n and Al CIAda, when they attack us rather than when attacked as the result of another government's actions - e.g. - Pearl Harbor, Lusitania, etc. (note, Germany did NOT attack the U.S. There was no cause at the time, to start a war with them, only with Japan. That doesn't mean it wouldn't have spread that far anyway, but those are the facts of history)

NOWHERE is there ANY authority to attack another nation, assassinate anyone as an initial action on our part.

It just isn't there.

Therefore, Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro, and anyone who follows his orders in such fashion are guilty of war crimes.

Additionally, I can't fathom why so many people are so ignorant and can't read the plain language of the Constitution - the President IS NOT the "commander in chief" at all times.

He is ONLY the "commander in chief" of the Army and Navy, and of the Militia "WHEN CALLED INTO THE ACTUAL SERVICE OF THE UNITED STATES."

So if Congress has not issued a declaration of War or letters of Marque and Reprisal and thus called the Army, Navy, or Militia into the ACTUAL service of the United States, then the Presidential powers of "commander in chief" DO NOT APPLY to any orders he gives in that period.

In short - every General, every soldier, every Airman, every seaman, is guilty of WAR CRIMES for following illegal orders.

The orders are illegal because the President has no authority to give them.

He has no authority to give them because Congress has not called the servicemen who would follow them into actual service of the United States.

And the only mechanism for them to do so is either through a declaration of War, or issuing letters of Marque and Reprisal.

Since Congress has done neither, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq, and Afghanistan are all scenes of war crimes on the part of these soldiers, officers, and Barack Obama.

Debbie's picture

That is exactly right, he is only Commander in Chief "when

called into the actual Service of the United States;" per Article II, Section 2.

Debbie

Define "success"

The subject line sums it up - what's the definition of "Success" here? Exterminate everybody who doesn't like the American occupation?

What the hell are "we" trying to accomplish half-way across the world anyway?

Freedom is my Worship Word!

TREASON, TREASON, TREASON, TREASON

BO, Kerry, and McCain should be tried for TREASON.

START BOMBARDING THESE JERKS WITH CALLS, LETTERS AND EMAIL.
Day and night.

Yup Agreed! sigh... What is

Yup Agreed!

sigh...
What is wrong with these people.

What I would like to know is, Why didn't the people of Arizona voted out this war mongering sociopath McCain out of the senate in Nov of last year!? Same applies with Kerry.

I tremble in the mere thought if he would of been our President today.

For Liberty! http://youtu.be/GR4WYqabTxU
What If? http://youtu.be/FqAF-Alc7CM
Armed Chinese Troops in Texas! http://youtu.be/XKfuS6gfxPY

Kerry, McCain, can't you two idiots do anything right.

Kerry, McCain, I'm glad I didn't vote for either of you. You are both wimpy@ss baffoons. MOVE OVER AND LET RON PAUL DO IT get the F out of the way.

Article 1 Section 9 of the United States Constitution.

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed. ...

Ex post facto law (from the Latin for "from after the action") or retroactive law is a law that retroactively changes the legal consequences (or status) of actions committed or relationships that existed prior to the enactment of the law.

KMoore
May our efforts in support of Congressman Ron Paul be blessed with supernatural success.

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

"... would retroactively support America's military role in Libya, ..." - Makes no sense.

US Constitution, Section. 9.

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

...

ex post facto: after a fact

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Debbie's picture

Excellent that you pointed this out!

If everyone knew this and recognized it they could not get away with this.

Debbie

reedr3v's picture

Right, these two "top" senators who

were thoroughly rejected by national voters who didn't want their foreign policies as Pres. candidates; alert to MSM -- we still don't want them!

Jail

Kerry, McCain, and Obama all need to be tried for treachery against the US for their brazen efforts to subject our military (OUR sons) to the U. N.

They all are terrorists and worthy of the severest penalties of the law.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

Did senator McCain confer with Libya on the matter?

What does he mean by, seeing this mission through to success? Success for who ? THE NATO forces action that have nothing to do with an American mission ?

Who gets to define "success"? John McCain and/or NATO?

SO, NOW we change our laws to suit NATO missions?
More promotion of lawlessness.

UN

UN

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

ecorob's picture

just because they change the law...

it still doesn't make it right!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

The more the leadership on both sides of the isle screw things

up, the greater the impact will be on the economy. Then, they will cry out for help from the good doctor..

Ron Paul is now the answer man for the mess they created..

The traction he has gained is unbelievable.

Ron Paul is now the talk at our dinner tables..

However, we must still act as though Dr. Paul is 20 points behind.

No resting until its all over..

Sign up to be a delegate.That is where we will nail them good..

long uphilll battle

This hasn't even begun. We have a huge uphill battle.

Politicians acting on Pauls agenda will take credit for the actions while either denying any knowledge of Ron Paul or casting him as a fringe oddball with an interesting idea here or there that happened to match what they were already in the process of doing.

People who know Ron Paul will know how blatantly dis-honest and dispicable this is but rank and file members of both parties will gobble up this tripe as gospel coming from their trusted oracles.

You watch Obama say the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan was in the process months ago or that he is listening to his constituents - blatant case of trying to steal Ron Pauls thunder.

We need to somehow get people to see the truth about these politicos. Bush was bad, but Obama is hugely worse about wiping out our civil rights. This guy is absolutely brazen in setting up a police state.

Do you realize TSA has expanded it's activities to subways and train stations? Have you heard the term 'prolonged detainment'? This man is not just bad for America, he is dangerous to our continued freedom and sovereignty.

This is what makes me so mad.

This is what makes me so mad. When the elites break a law they make a law to change it and make it legal. You and I forget to pull a permit to plant a tree on our property and we get fined hundreds of dollars. Its all a sad, sick joke.

Ron is having an impact

Amazing! Ron Paul is having an immediate and dramatic impact on so many issues. His campaign has pushed the neocon wannabes and the Criminal in Chief to at least give lip service concering the issues he has communicated to the American public. (I've notice Romney and Obama now talking about an exit strategy for Afghanistan and Newt making noises about the Fed)

The public is waking up and the politicians are responding. Of course it's all lies and deceit at this point but if Congressman Paul does get the presidency I believe he will be able to drive the crooks, liars and traitors in DC in the right direction by communicating issues to the public honestly and letting public opinion actually work. Just think about the cockroaches scrambling in DC with an awake and educated constituency plugged in to their shenanigans by a President who is not bought and paid for.

So Little Napoleon and the Heinz Cuckold have joined up to support the Criminal in Chiefs illegal war in Libya. More evidence of McCains unbalanced mental state, penchant for violence and another example of where his loyalties have always been.

For all those blind people who don't understand what our government is supposed to be about - this is leadership. This is what the President is supposed to do, lead by defining the issues and agenda. Haven't you noticed how he has changed the debate, don't you see congress following? This is the leadership we need during these difficult times.

jaseed's picture

Ron and Rand

"an awake and educated constituency plugged in to their shenanigans by a President who is not bought and paid for."

Question:How long has it been since the constituency had someone with the credentials; someone they could trust as much as Ron and Rand Paul? imo its hard to comprehend for many modern Americans that they can implement their individual liberties here at home with someone actually doing the right things concerning foreign policy...and when they do have concerns, someone will honestly listen.

TRUST!
Ron and Rand Paul

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson

JFK

I believe JFK was the last president who truly cared about the people of this country. JFK, Ron and Rand Paul are the only politicians I believe ran for office to truly serve the people of this country.

To the tune of McCains Bomby Beach Boy Parody

RON RON RON ... Ron Ron and Rand
Ron RON Ron ... Ron Ron and Rand
You got us rockin for our Freedom
Rockin and believin Ron and Rand.

I'll take my Liberty, it's not yours to give.

egapele's picture

Giving life to ideas...

and clearing up the cloudiness and murkiness of some extremely important issues - that's what Ron Paul is all about!

Definition of Isolationist...

It is time to get our minds straight on what we are talking about... The definition of an ISOLATIONIST is someone who prefers war to bi-lateral trade.

Our war with Vietnam isolated us from the people in Vietnam. Now that we trade with them that isolationist barrier has disappeared.

Nothing isolates and divides like war. Nothing harmonizes relationships than bi-lateral trade.

What's McCain talking about? The old fool.

Plano TX

ecorob's picture

ditto!

...great post!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

may I quote you?

on Facebook? This explains it so well...

Just lift...

... it as your own. Not original. Taken from Dr.Paul's comments re. Vietnam. [Dr. Paul would not be so uncouth to call anyone a fool, but I could not resist it.]

Plano TX

THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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