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Very Scary Happening in N.H. School System U.N.

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2011/06/07/merrimack-...

The MVRSD is about to turn their whole school district over to the UN. And the parents and taxpayers have NO IDEA what this is about! They are being told it’s to ‘learn about other cultures’ or ‘learn other languages’.

The Concord Monitor refuses to print an op-ed about it or the rest of the information about the COST. Please spread this around to every parent and concerned taxpayer in the towns of Boscawen, Loudon, Penacook, Salisbury, Webster, and any regional or cooperative schools in SAU #46.

In addition to the public not being told about the mission statement that teachers and schools must sign that says they will support the UN’s MDG, or the requirement to drop ability grouping, the requirement to use constructivism as the teaching methodology, the requirement for students to do COMMUNITY SERVICE in order to graduate, or the fact that tests are sent to a foreign country to be graded, answering questions about the cost of IB is often avoided by its advocates.

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It's just a 3rd party curriculum -- relax

Both my kids chose the IB curriculum over other options. IB was *easily* the most rigorous program. Especially in the sciences.

All the anxiety here is about some sort of propaganda brainwashing nonsense. We simply did not see any of this. What we did see was a willingness to ask questions.

IMO, there is no downside to the IB program. And plenty of upside.

I'm voting for Peace.

Agreed

I'm IB trained both in my content area (music) and as a coordinator since our school is considering this program. It is actually quite an interesting approach that promotes individual liberty much more than global collectivism. Unlike nearly every educational initiative since the inception of public schooling a century ago, it focuses on learning rather than teaching. Its curriculum is rigorous and yet promotes the idea that students aren't clones.

What I WILL say against it is that it is ridiculously expensive. Many of its elements could easily be implemented without the program itself. It would require a great deal of discipline on the part of educators, but it could be done.

I respect Dr. Paul a great deal, but he is not expert on this subject. He's looking at it in terms of the source rather than the actual concept. There is a FAR greater danger right now in 48 states called the "Common Core Standards". It has the force of law and funding (because of Race to the Top). I advise you all to look into that before you start worrying about IB.

WTF?

I can't believe this, will talk to some of my friends in NH about it. If this was forced on us it would be an act of war, and we're volunteering for it?

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Government "schooling"

is a crime against humanity. Governments train obedient slaves, why on earth would they educate their slaves? Use some common sense. Now SOME slaves can be better trained than others, trained to be managers, doctors, etc. and some trained to be ditch diggers. But still just trained slaves.

Bump!

This is the school system I went to when I was a child. Although I have homeschooled all my children, still don't want all those people there to have to pay the taxes on this bad UN stuff.

Ron Paul Objects to this program!

Here is the file of the Congressional testimony of Dr Paul who opposed this program in the schools and wanted to ban it because of its stated purpose.

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/pdf/RonPaul_UNESCO_IB.pdf

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

Jane

Thank you for finding this. Also for writing the article. When I saw the article and posted it I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was you who had written and and am thrilled to see that you are still around and active.
Thanks again.

I taught IB Art and TOK in England

I taught IB Art and Theory Of Knowledge here in England, and I can say that, in these subjects at least, students were taught to think critically and to deconstruct art, arguments, policies, etc. These 17 & 18 year-olds worked extremely hard and represented the best students in the school.

Pitfalls: IB can be a bureaucratic paper nightmare for the teachers. And the rules kept changing. Plus it can be expensive to run and to train staff, as an earlier post pointed out. Occasionally, some subjects were obviously short-staffed for examiners, resulting in inconsistencies with final grades. Having papers marked outside your own country was part of the rather long moderation process.

I cannot comment on any UN angles, but I can say that IB is a well-rounded course of study, and I hope American universities give it full recognition.

Now just a minute here

I was in honors and IB and I went to UK and US unis and very few kids could think critically in either country. From my experience it was worse in parts of England (Lancaster Uni).

One of the biggest problems in education is grade mooching and programs with more paperwork like IB and magnet schools encourage that. Kids will just copy off of each other for years, sometimes doing no work what-so-ever of their own and many teachers here only try to keep "order" in their class rooms. In poorer regions (and strangely many magnet schools) some kids just sit and watch over 18 movies in class a year, not educational films but holly wood junk. If they aren't handing out pacifiers they are punishing kids for things like farting and sneezing (oh don't even try talking). The actual education covered in your average American public school I've taught to kids in 7 months and they retained it. So you can't honestly tell me more sit down, shut up and paperwork will solve the problem.

Certainly one of the major issues is the method of teacher certification, the test is a Pavlovian psychology aptitude assessment. You cannot pass unless you have articulated you know how to use Pavlovian psychology. It evaluates nothing else but a teachers ability to dish out sit down and shut up.

That aside in the UK they also were teaching brainwashing nonsense, just like here, like peace studies and "Euro Libertariansim", which is just extreme socialism.

We have IB here too. Who would want to do it though? It doesn't make you more employable in a Faschism. Only being a brainwashed genocidal hate monster helps you there. Critical thinking does not improve your chances of being employed after school it worsens your chances of finding employment because big employers want someone who will JUST do what they are told, because critical thinkers go off and work for better offers. I had some dip shit employees tell me this at a financial processing firm I was at where I was interning and friends with the CEO and CFO who wanted to buy into my business idea, "Don't talk about your personal goals or ambitions in the work place". Many people have said this to me now in several workplaces, my response is all ways "Whatever, Stalin".

Honestly, we need a whole new approach schools have failed to set us up socially or developmentally. Like 100% independent education, a few studies have been done on it and I did it myself for years, it works better in the long because even if you can't find a job you can usually make one with skills that would not be acquired by school. On top of this it provides a much more diverse education. I suppose something like that would have its limits, but it is way more effective than traditional schools.

You got to be kidding.

Critical thinkers. TODAY? Where are they at? They must have a muzzle placed on them when they graduate.

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I believe that "critical thinking" is a very personal skill

which can be attained in ANY environment and circumstances, even in IB system. Much like "waking up" to the liberty cause or religious epiphany of "knowing" that we are personally loved by God / blessed by the Nature.

Even in the midst of the most stringently regimented education system I believe that we can acquire the ability to check and re-examine statements within our minds & souls and act "freely" within one's physical confine.

Of course, it would greatly help to have a wise teacher or two or parents to show us how to read in between propagandized lines and TV scripts :-)

International Baccalaureate (IB) is a market-based solution!

Don't be scared. http://ib.org for more info.

The IB program is an alternative curriculum, developed to be universally acknowledged as a high-quality high school education. It has a board to set the curriculum and standards. Schools have to maintain standards to keep their IB accreditation.

This represents a market solution to the problem of lax and/or unpredictable standards among high school diplomas and GPAs. Similar to the market solutions of ACT and SAT scores.

To the degree that IB actually produces a universally acknolwledged, high quality high school education, school districts will choose it as their program. That's the market at work.

My kids both attended an IB program, which was optional in our district. It is far and away the best education compared to our available alternatives. So we chose it.

I'm voting for Peace.

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Wait -- your link is for a different program

than that discussed in the OP. That one is ibo.org, see below. And it's definitely the wrong direction for school curricula and evaluation to be farther from parent control.

Ha!! that was quite a typo :-)

Yes - ibo.org is the correct link. Thanks.

Canoeing the boundary waters is very educational too, though. It's value in terms of providing a balanced mind set might be every bit as high as more traditional education :-) Not sure about the importance of the Jewish angle - I imagine the biggest benefits of the experience are non-denominational in character!

I'm voting for Peace.

THIS IS a TAXPAYER BOONDOGGLE NOT a "market based solution"

The taxes pay for this in the public schools.. and go directly to the UN.

IS this what you want?

Dr Paul knows it's bad.

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/pdf/RonPaul_UNESCO_IB.pdf

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

Completely agree. The post in

Completely agree. The post in the link is fear mongering and is very misguided. There is no UN connection with IB.

No UN Connection?

You have to be kidding!!!!

There is a clear UN and UNESCO connection. Tests are sent to Geneva to be graded, and there is NO critical thinking taught.. it's one world or nothing.

It is not a 'market based solution' it's EXTRA money put upon the taxpayers to feed that hotbed of communism, the UN.

Dr Paul pleaded with Congress in 2004 to ban IB from schools.

Dr Paul and M. Bachmann are the only two candidates who are aware of this problem.. Bachmann fought it when Pawlenty was proud to institute it.

Why do teachers have to sign a mission statement that basically says they will teach 'world government' to the students? Why does a school have to sign a political mission statement?

Some of you have not done your homework.

There are so many groups pushing for this nonsense (Word Federalists, UN, CFR, Bilderbergers, Club of Rome and all the other elitist groups you can think of) why should we allow it to take over our schools?

Frankly I can tell you that schools are already doing the bidding of the UN with the mission of 'social justice' not skills even without IB.

Please read the www.ibo.org website and you'll see.. especially this file which clearly lays out the mission of the program.

http://store.ibo.org/download/EfGCCh4.pdf

Jane Aitken, 35-Year Veteran Teacher
Ron Paul 2008 Consultant
GOP Woman of the Year 2009
Founder NH Tea Party Coalition (NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY FAKE 2009 GROUP)
Founder USPEINetwork @ Yahoo (Nat'l Edu Activism Group)
Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

I'm not afraid of a little internationalism....

In fact the document you linked sounded a bit like our favorite non-interventionists, who wants to promote travel and trade with all countries, in the hopes of having friendly and peaceful relations with them.

From the first section:
"The “contact hypothesis” put forward by Allport (1954) suggests that association between people from culturally different groups may reduce prejudice and conflict and lead to greater liking and respect."

And from the "mission statement" section:
"'Internationalist' elements are associated with...expression and development of values including a commitment to world peace, understanding between nations and responsible
world citizenship."

(All of this is just the fog of educational jargon, anyway, and picking it apart isn't very useful.)

The fact is that the IB program is not mandated by any state, and certainly not by the feds. Rather, it is an available option for individual school boards to adopt or not. This means that it participates in the "educational curriculum" market alongside alternatives. If it sucks as a program, it will lose subscribers and fail. If it produces educated students, it will succeed. Like all market solutions, it should succeed or fail without government subsidies.

** my experience with IB is limited to the 2-year 'diploma' certification (11th, 12th grades) and I have no experience with any of the primary or middle school programs. I understand how any tenuous connection to UNESCO or the UN might give someone the willies, but my first-hand observation of the program reveals no emphasis on one-world, NWO, or related nonsense. Probably less of that kind of thing than we saw in our programs before moving to IB, in fact. And I am perfectly happy with the reduced emphasis on "American exceptionalism," in line with my opening comments about "non-interventionism."

I'm voting for Peace.

nice to see you back posting on DP

I missed you Jane.

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Board Coalition of NH Taxpayers

Rahm getting his way in NH?

"...requirement for students to do COMMUNITY SERVICE in order to graduate..."

A precurser to his civilian national security force?

Perhaps he'll use the students to police the Chicago streets that have become so unsafe since he took office...how do all these things come togther so nicely?

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

double post

sorry...

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Does it even matter at this point?

I know there are some among us who think the dumbing-down of America skipped them--it didn't. We're all about as dumb as a tub of corn. What difference does it make at this point if the cirriculum is cupcake decorating or "new math", either way the result will be yet another class of braindead slaves.
The only way to beat it, or at least fight it, is to accept it happened and rise above it. Also, don't send your kids to government indoctrination centers.

Hey Mike, you always do a

Hey Mike, you always do a great job of putting the iceing on the cake!

Nice to 'bump' into you. It has been awhile.

Blessings on you, your family, and the chickens.

YOUR servant for freedom, Clay Carey

Well said!

What you wrote reminds me of these song lyrics:

Could the state of our condition
Be the product of omission
What we didn't learn in public school?
And did our fathers all through history
All fight and die for liberty
So we could play the tyrant's fools?
Can you call it education
When it's all indoctrination
To obey the hidden Powers That Be?
Did we fight the Revolution
Did we "win" the World Wars
Just to slumber into slavery?

-Carl Klang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCC5UK-2CwE

The public school system is a socialist

system. It seems that so many other socialist systems are put down by those in the liberty movement, yet the school system is not. Why is this? I moved from NH because of the incredibly high property taxes, which is mostly for the schools, that are like having a mortgage. Why would we consider that the government would come up with a good idea for schools? Over and over again they have come up with ideas for schools that are worse than the one before. And now we have a nation who voted for Bush and Obama. Not surprising.

I've seen plenty

of downright hatred for the government school system within the liberty movement.

Here's a tip I'm sure you'll be on board with: call it government school. Privately-owned restaurants are public. Would you eat at a restaurant called a government restaurant?

Defend Liberty!

The "live Free or Die State?

Please tell me that someone is fighting this...

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I have one word for you...predator drones. Oh, you think I'm kidding?" Obombya

Re: The "Live Free or Die State"

I'm with you on that. Based on what I've read, I'm hoping the residents of New Hampshire unify against this.