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The US govt will defend Israel over its own citizens

Yesterday the State Department warned that if Israel chose to attack, kill or imprison American citizens this country would do nothing about it.

Earlier today Hillary Clinton said the brave Americans wanting to break the siege on Gaza were provocateurs and that Israel knows best on how to make sure goods get into Gaza.

Now the White House says that American activists are breaking the law because they are providing support to a terrorist organization--the people of Gaza are a terrorist organization--and will be subject to fines and jail.

Links and article here: http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/not-my-president.html



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Pro-American = "Anti-Semitic"

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In fact, to even speak of an American interest distinct from Israel's is anti-Semitic.

To speak of a "Christian" heritage rather than a "Judeo-Christian" heritage is anti-Semitic.

To oppose ALL foreign aid is anti-Semitic.

To say that we will not attack Iran pre-emptively if they develop a weapon of mass destruction is anti-Semitic.

Didn't you know?

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The Virtual Conspiracy

AND what about all of the

AND what about all of the palestinians? what about them its ok for isreal to systematically remove them through military force against people with no guns ! isreals always the victim right? commting genocide against the palestinians with airstrikes and militarism, dont play dumb either i just read an article saying isreal passing laws that makes palestinians pay for their own home demolitions! and im supposed to support that? im supposed to believe isreal is the victim? all isreali's ever do is is talk about "tolerance" for other people to accept them, BUT THEY commit horrible acts of war against civilians, what a model of tolerance, were not stupid, i dont hate jews i dont hate anyone for where they come from, i do hate genocidal racist governments , oh no but the rules dont apply to isreal everyones supposed to love them but the can kill palestinians for the fuck of it because theyre muslim dirt right!? practice what you preach then maybe the arab worl will stop fucking with isreal.

this comment was taken from a

this comment was taken from a debate with an isreal worshipper, and is not addressing this particular post, but needs to be read on here too.

Israel's oil guarantees...trump US oil needs.

http://www.nogw.com/documents/1979_il_oil_guarantee.pdf

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and ISRAEL

(b) If the oil Israel needs to meet all of its normal requirements for domestic consumption is unavailable for purchase in circumstances where quantitative restrictions through embargo or otherwise also prevent the United States from procuring oil to meet its normal requirements, the United States Government will promptly make oil available for purchase by Israel in accordance with the International Energy Agency conservation and allocation formula as applied by the United States Government, in order to meet the shortfall in Israel's essential requirements.

"Give a man a gun, and he could rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he could rob the world."

ecorob's picture

don't keep forgetting...

just who the us government is!

these people are not "separate" from us (the government)...they are us

throw the bums OUT!

NOW!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Isaiah 31:5

Like birds hovering overhead, the LORD Almighty will shield Jerusalem; he will shield it and deliver it, he will 'pass over' it and will rescue it."NIV

All those so called Christians have forgotten their bibles. They do not remember what the Lord has said or they do not trust what He has said. Woe be unto them.

We diminish God by claiming to be the defenders of Israel when God has said that He himself will defend and deliver her.

My answer to the staunch defenders of Israel is....Don't you trust God?

And to the children of Israel, Isaiah warns,
Return, O children of Israel, to him whom you have utterly deserted. Is 31:6

The LORD called jeruselem

The LORD called jeruselem sodom and egypt..big difference between when they still believed in him and worshipped him as God than when they went the way of pagans...

"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32

Isreal knows best how to

Isreal knows best how to starve its neighbors, Isreal knows best how to attack civilian aid vessels, Isreal knows best how to run false flag operations such as the gulf of tonkin and Wtc and thats Isreal's talent.

AIPAC VIDEO why do we always here MSM talking about israel

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOZZ5zGAWKE&playnext=1&list=P...
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQE1Fe9nQeQ&feature=autoplay&...

Think about all the presidents support Israel always. Ron paul does not support whats going on with this

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Glenn Greenwald on this topic:

MONDAY, JUN 27, 2011
U.S., Israel escalate threats against flotilla, including U.S. citizens
BY GLENN GREENWALD

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/06/27...

Key words:
"self-evidently warped" "sociopathic endorsement of Israel's possible shooting of his fellow unarmed citizens. . ." for describing RedState blogger, Joshua Trevino's article

Glenn G contrasts the reactions between that of the objective, even-handed & rational Irish government and Hillary-led "Israel-must-always-be-defended" US political officials.

Who do you think is running the u.s. Govt?

(For now).

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

so how would a non-interventionist policy

handle this...

"if you go to a foreign country and knowingly defy its laws and get arrested, you're on your own..."

Are they going to Israel?

Or to Gaza? Or, is there a difference?

If the flotilla was going into Israel against Israel's wishes, then that's a violation of the NAP.

If Gaza is a soverign nation, then running the blocade is NOT a violation of the NAP.

International law notwithstanding.

who the hell knows?

is there a wall there now? Do the Palestenians have a state yet? Its hard enough to keep up with the smoke and mirror tricks of the corporatists and politicians in this country much less those in the fricken Middle East...

Bibi wouldn't issue the threat...

... because he wouldn't have the US to protect him from Arab retaliation.

A "non-interventionist policy"

would make sure that such a "foreign country" never got a single dime in foreign aid, or military aid, or military technology, or military contracts, or any promises to defend it against the Arabs who own that land(or anybody else).

We saw that in 1967 when

We saw that in 1967 when Lyndon Johnsons called back navy fighters sent to protect the USS Liberty.

A non-interventionist would not have had the USS Liberty there

in the first place.