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Now Obama's talking about ignoring the debt ceiling??

Since when did these Presidents get it in their head that they are King's with absolute authority, this is truly frightening and it seems no one cares that Presidents are just deciding what rules they want to follow and which they don't.

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Look, I see this viewpoint.

Look, I see this viewpoint. But everyone is guilty of it. Eisgesis in constitutional review is abound in all politicians. It is present in all judges and justices...

Look at Ron Paul. He's perhaps the least guilty of this, but at heart, he isn't a constitutionalist. He is at his very core a state's rightis, with some free marketism thrown in there. His interpretation of the constitution is influenced heavily from this view.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Ron Paul's is making decisions

based on SOME rule of law that will benefit the people...Obama isn't looking to benefit the people imho...its getting to a legacy point, he cares about how history views him.

Ron Paul is against campaign

Ron Paul is against campaign finance reform. I don't see how that benefits anyone but corporate donors.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Pretty much every penny of

Pretty much every penny of debt, is incurred to pay for programs that are in no way, shape or form authorized by even the most relaxed reading of the constitution. Claiming the Constitution bars the government from defaulting on debt that the Constitution never authorized the government to incur in the first place is pretty far fetched.

And if the argument is that the Constitution can be "interpreted" to allow for the spending that has taken place, then the Constitution can be interpreted to allow for absolutely anything, so it's basically nothing but a popularity contest; or if people get fed up with that particular game of vanity, a who's guns are bigger contest.

This statement is partially

This statement is partially false.

Social Security has been paid for with taxes. So has Medicare. The fact that government has borrowed the accumulated tax money is not a fault of the programs itself but the fault of the politicians.

The military spending is completely legitimate under the constitution. The military budget has been approved by Congress every year. The military spending is about 3 trillion of our debt since 2000. Thats a little over 33% of the debt. If you include the interest payments on that spending, it gets even bigger.

The Federal reserve accounts for 4-5 trillion of our debt and about 3.8 trillion of our debt since 2007. The federal reserve is unconstitutional in my opinion, but the constitution does allow Congress to regulate the value of money, and many of the founders were in favor of strong centralized banking.

Also, while it is fine to debate the philosophy, in a legislative sense, whatever the court says is constitutional, is constitutional. The constitution holds the court as the final authority in what is or what is not constitutional. The court has long-established the power of the government to issue fiat money, as well as regulate it and delegate the powers of regulation to the federal reserve.

You can say that they should not have decreed all thse government actions/spending as constitutional; however, they did, and those consequences must be dealt with.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Dr. Know

is how it's spelled.

"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things, if you look at it right." - Richard Feynman