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The Washington Times says things about Ron's messaging and has a funny picture

But I think they have a decent point, as well. Still, Ron will always be consistent.

We just need to make it clear this is about state's rights, and state self determination.

"Whenever Mr. Paul displays his unmatched knowledge of how we sank into this economic abyss and what it will take to get out of it, he comes close to closing the sale with my friend. And now that Mr. Paul is on the campaign trail using one of the Bible’s saddest moments - when the ancient Israelites desire a human king to rule over them instead of God, which is analogous to Americans looking to Washington for guidance rather than the “Creator” referenced in the Declaration of Independence - he’s starting to convince my friend that economic issues are moral ones, too.

However, just when it seems Mr. Paul is about to broaden his appeal and make inroads with a group that largely shunned him in the last go-round, he chases libertarian rabbit trails that remind evangelically minded voters of the uneasiness they have with a Paul candidacy.

Case in point: "

You should read it, it's actually pretty decent, and then, there is the picture...

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/30/stoner-obsessi...




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there is no amount of legislation, mandate, or enforcement that can stop an addict from getting what they want when they want it. as long as a demand is there, supply will follow - legally or illegally.

much of the violence associated with the drug trade has to do with the high-stakes money transactions that only heighten peoples' greed and lust for more (money).

on a cultural level, the CIA, DEA, ATAF and others contribute to the violence, racketeering, and black-market economies created by the drug trade. in fact, they make up a large part of the covert drug trade.

any behaviorial skew can only be thwarted by education and ultimately, personal choice.

yes, if you commit a crime while under the influence (DUI, for example), you must be held accountable. if you hold someone up for your next rock, you do the time.

if you're stoned and can't seem to understand why you leave your car keys in a different place every night, well....that's your problem and no one else's. and don't come whining to uncle sam to pay for your rehab.

it is not the governent's job to tell me what i can think, drink, smoke or who i can sleep with. on that account, it is not their job to pay for my rehab, pay for my HIV drugs, etc.

this should be left to the community, your friends, lovers, family and church. it is the only way to bring about change in demand. paul recognizes the intellectual arrogance of statism trying to regulate "morality" - its ineptness and its violence against peoples and principles.

we need to stop the WAR on drugs. that doesn't mean we need to stop educating people on their harm.

the War on Drugs is a gross waste of money, ineffectual, corrupt, fills up our jails with non-violent offenders, and only emboldens the criminal element of the drug world to do more daring and harmful operations.

This is what I posted:

Steve, I hope you watch Ken Burns' documentary on prohibition that will air on PBS soon. It will give you some perspective on how STUPID the War on Drugs is. Ron is not just talking about MJ, he's for ending this ridiculous "war," which has filled our prisons with non-violent offenders & created a giant drug cartel that has ruined cities and suburbs. If drugs were easily available at your local pharmacy, all of this crime would STOP! Millions of people don't do drugs, but they are affected by this crime. Ron Paul's stance on drugs is not something from Captain Zigzag, as in your illustration, it's more from George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, who grew hemp on their farms & took derivitives of the poppy for pain relief. You need to get educated, Steve. Watch that program & listen more closely to Ron Paul.

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If voters truly cannot think in terms

of principles, the time may not be right for Dr. Paul. He is betting on the inherent rational good sense and intelligence of ordinary Americans when issues are clearly presented.

No one knows definitely the winning strategy; honesty may lose as it has for the last century. but if we are ever to achieve a peaceful and free world, people must evolve toward their higher potential.

I am very comfortable with Dr. Paul's choice to tell the truth. If the populace can't face it, they won't respond well to the kind of changes needed anyway. Ron Paul can only lead an enlightened people; he can't force anyone to accept freedom. This is a battle of courage to win hearts and minds for the long haul, not for one term to be rejected by greedy dependents unready for responsibilities of freedom, and the morality of peace.

This is very true, and I think of it myself.

I also like having a candidate I am proud of, and not one who panders.

Still....I would like him to win. I hope America is ready to turn off American Idol and listen to serious ideas.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

So much,

as usual, for free speech: My comment there is pending approval!! Here's what I wrote:
Hemp can be used to build cars, can be used for rope, fuel, food, clothing...would create jobs, etc. Drugs were legal until the late 1930's in USA. Is the War on Drugs working? No!! Portugal decriminalized drugs and it was a success: "...The Cato paper reports that between 2001 and 2006 in Portugal, rates of lifetime use of any illegal drug among seventh through ninth graders fell from 14.1% to 10.6%; drug use in older teens also declined. Lifetime heroin use among 16-to-18-year-olds fell from 2.5% to 1.8% (although there was a slight increase in marijuana use in that age group). New HIV infections in drug users fell by 17% between 1999 and 2003, and deaths related to heroin and similar drugs were cut by more than half. In addition, the number of people on methadone and buprenorphine treatment for drug addiction rose to 14,877 from 6,040, after decriminalization, and money saved on enforcement allowed for increased funding of drug-free treatment as well..."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.ht...

Here's a neat short video of Ford's hemp car (watch just how strong this vehicle is):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxlj6fgQ-ZU&NR=1

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The article stays that Ron

The article stays that Ron Paul is "cozying up to the enemy" when he talks about legalizes drugs. I regard users of addictive drugs as foolish, not as enemies. And some of the drugs we've made illegal aren't even addictive.

I think he was referring to

Barney Frank, actually....

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul