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Question about libertarians

Other than Ron and Rand Paul, who are the most libertarian members (or recent ex members) of Congress? I can't think of any. Are there any libertarian governors or recent ex governors, besides Johnson and Ventura? I'm asking this for two reasons. One, to show the lack of possible VP candidates who also have political experience, which, like it or not, is somewhat important to the voting public. While it's nice to dream about Ron picking a libertarian columnist as his running mate, it isn't very realistic. Judge Nap is probably the most politically experienced of the libertarian media personalities. Two, and more importantly if Ron Paul does not win in 2012, who else besides Rand is left in Congress to pick up the fight where Ron leaves off? I don't think we can ever really change anything with just one or two guys in Washington on our side.



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Larry McDonald

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Mcdonald

Check this guy out, he was one of the most libertarian members of Congress, and he was a Democrat. Ron Paul is quoted as saying that "He was the most principled man in Congress."

Today, aside from Ron Paul, the only real libertarian is Justin Amash.

and in terms of a former President, the most libertarian was Grover Cleveland, also a Democrat

liberty lover in Nor Cal!

Hi californians4ronpaul

Libertarians are very private people. Here in CA, many Libertarians are growing marijuana, for example, and in counties where there is substantual marijuana growing, you will find many active Libertarians (when they are not in prison, which CA lawes have made it difficult for free people to run for office). Libertarians are "do it yourselfers" and prefer to not be politically active unless there is a court case.

Who ever he selects as VP (and I suggest he go with Nader for balance, Nader has allot ion common, and is not friend of the UN or the FED.. during the 2004 election, which was brutal.. many Nader volunteers were called "Republicans", but they were not, they were Libertarians who would rather vote outside the box for someone who fights government on the left, than join the neocons or neolibs.

Judge Napolitano

Would be the best choice in my opinion, he is popular, charismatic, respected by all sides, and has a strong character.

And...

Dr. Paul "really likes" him.

I don't think he can announce a running mate until he gets the nomination under the law BUT he can "really like" one!

Give us clear vision, that we may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything.
~ Peter Marshall, US Senate Chaplain 1947

Gary Johnson

Governor who used the GOP machine to get elected.

There are no Libertarians in Congress and there have never

been. (At least since the Party was formed. There may have been some in the past who would have been members if it was available and politically possible to still win their seat)

But to the point, that is the point. There are none.

What you will find is that there are some Reps and Senators who at various times, and on various issues, side with libertarian philosophy.

It is important to identify these people, and nurture relationships with them. Let them know you support their libertarian votes, and explain to them why you don't support their other votes that counter that. (internal consistency is a hallmark of a "true" libertarian)

I think the focus on running mates is misplaced and untimely.

The focus should be on the issues and the message and the candidate.

Even before a Veep, I'd concentrate on a Cabinet. Those are more critical positions anyway.

Truly, the only considerations for VP should be close enough beliefs that he/she could be "won over" the rest of the way in 4-8 years, and not so far out of whack that they are a physical threat to RP as President, or that they would undo his reforms if they wait their "turn" and win the top job outright later.

Otherwise, they don't do much. Now, if they were fully on board, and they took a more active role as President of the Senate like they should, then it is a very important position, but failing that, I'd concentrate more on getting the best people in the major cabinet positions first, and then take the next best person and pick them for VP.

Judge Nap. should be reserved for White House counsel, and then SCOTUS.

I meant libertarian in terms

I meant libertarian in terms of ideology not party. Sausages, who are the most libertarian members besides the Pauls?

No "Libertarians" in name

But there are several with Libertarian "leanings".

Give us clear vision, that we may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything.
~ Peter Marshall, US Senate Chaplain 1947

I don't know, but I am not a

I don't know, but I am not a libertarian. I just love Ron Paul.

not a libertarian as in..

you support public option, etc?

not a libertarian as in...

he's probably not an anarchist. Most people aren't. I'm not real sure if a full blown Libertarian would actually ever BE a member of Congress, as their ideology rejects the notion of the State in its entirety.

Libertarians may or may not be anarchists

The definition of 'libertarian' is more precise than 'conservative' or 'liberal', but there is still a spectrum of beliefs that fit the label.

On the one side, you have limited government libertarians (Ron Paul) and on the other side you have Murray Rothbard. The two sides don't really oppose each other. Limited government is better than the leviathan state we have now, and when we achieve true limited government, the the anarchists can push for a dismantling of the rest of the apparatus. But until then, both limited government libertarians and anarchist libertarians have a common enemy: the current State.

Well put.

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Give us clear vision, that we may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything.
~ Peter Marshall, US Senate Chaplain 1947