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Hi folks, this is a question for anyone skilled in the freedom to fascism dialouge/debate... and also economics, etc. I watched the video a couple nights ago, and was "shook up" even more so than before. I don't understand everything very well, so I have a couple questions...

1. What is a good book about economics and monatery policy for a beginner?

2. In what way are our banks connected to the Fed? Are all banks connected to the Fed? Are there any that are not?

3. I've heard people say (even on this forum) that the FDIC isn't for real - or that it wouldn't matter anyway... can someone explain FDIC and what it is and how it works and what are the flaws...

4. What are ways to reduce your own participation in this corrupt system of debt...?

5. For someone like myself, who only has a couple thousand dollars of savings, what is the best kind of financial investment (besides contributing to Dr. Paul - which i have done several times and will continue to do!)

Thanks. Hope my questions don't sound too dumb/ignorant.

Vijay

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Book

For questions number 1) and 2) I suggest "What has Government done to our money" by Murray Rothbard.
You can find it here as a free MP3-Audiobook:

http://www.mises.org/media.aspx?action=category&ID=92

This is very easy to understand and you can listen to it on your I-Pod.

The mises.org-site is a treasure-island for free resources anyway.
After all, that`s where I first heard of Dr. Paul a couple of years ago :-)
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I wish this was put into a Ron Paul Reading list

Somewhere on the web with links to Amazon or whatever.. so I can just order with my RF chip.. um I mean CC..heheh.

Good questions Vijay.

1. I am currently finishing "The Case Against the Fed" by Murray Rothbard. Only about 150 pages but, right to the point.

2. All banks are connected to the Fed because the Fed controls the money supply. That said, I try to stick with a local bank rather than give money to the majors that are corrupt beyond belief.

3.The answer to this question lies with the fractional reserve system that banks employ. Simply put, banks can lend out ten times the amount they have on deposit. The FDIC only covers up to a certain amount. I forget the exact number but, if there is ever a run on a bank, there is no way the FDIC could cover all the funds given the fact that they have loaned ten times more than they have on hand.

4.No doubt about this one, pay off the stinkin' debt. Secondly, I heartily recommend using good ole cash as much as possible. Like the old saying goes, use it or lose it.

5. Precious metals. Personally I prefer silver since it's more affordable and readily available. Silver not only has intrinsic value, it has commodity value as well (used in manufacturing).

Hope this helps.

Good questions that we should all be asking ourselves.

1. I've just started to really get into the deep economics research myself so I don't consider myself enough of an expert to say this or that book is the best but Mises is where I'm digging right now. The other posters who talk about Ron Paul's speeches etc give good sources too.

2. All banks are connected to the Fed in some way or another. For most of the industry this comes in the form of ownership. The private banks own the private Federal Reserve. I don't know of any banks who aren't partial owners of some sort but if there are any, they would still be connected through the fractional reserve fiat currency system.

3. I'm not a banker but I'll give you my understanding. The FDIC is a federal program which guarantees savings in a bank up to a certain level ($100,000 I think though that may have changed). With the fractional reserve system, banks are only required to have 10% of the money they have been entrusted with on hand. If there were a run on the bank, meaning that people went to the bank in large numbers to take their money out, leaving the bank with no reserves, then the federal government would give the people who couldn't get their money out their full balance up to the FDIC limit. When people say that this doesn't matter they are partially wrong. You would still get your money, so their is something of value there, but the value of that money would be reduced because the money given to you would be printed out of nothing. If we saw the same number of bank failures as occurred in the great depression, the level of inflation would be significant so you money would be worth less but you would still get something.

4. The short answer, not much. The long answer is to pay off all your debt, hold your money, or at least a good portion of it, in the form of physical specie. The truth is that not participating in this system is impossible and minimizing your participation is very difficult. I'm still working on figuring this out now so I don't have too many good answers which I can articulate clearly.

5. I'm sure others are going to have good suggestions so I'll just speak in broad categories. The first one is specie (gold, silver, platinum). The second is other physical assets like land or depression resistant businesses (food, energy or other necessities). At this point don't bother with securities or gold where you don't have it in your possession. The final one that I would recommend isn't really a financial investment but given our situation its not a bad idea to spend a couple hundred dollars on some good quality long term stored food. If things get really bad, which is possible, having some food around can be a real life saver.

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Is a good video about banking to watch
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Excellent book

Human Action: A Treatise on Economics by Ludwig von Mises

http://www.econlib.org/library/Mises/HmA/msHmA.html

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First and Foremost

If you haven't yet. Pay off your debt. I cannot express how important it is. The credit system is meant to keep Americans in a perpetual state of poverty. This is the quickest way to get out of the system that controls most Americans. School loans are one thing (I have $80,000) but credit cards, old debt, car loans, etc keep most Americans from acheiving any sort of independence.

As for saving - after you pay off your debt - pay yourself first. This means everypay check have money automatically taken out from your checking into your savings. I would recommend buying coins, until Ron Paul becomes President I couldn't recommend any other investment with confidence. I'm not an expert in this.

debt... it

Okay,
I have no school loans, or credit card debt - I extended a 4 year degree over 7 years just to avoid loans... and I've always paid off my credit card bills as soon as they come...

I do however have a small mortgage - about 90k... there's really no fast way to get rid of that, right?

Vijay.

Healing Our World...see www.ruwart.com

Vijay, Forgot to give you the site ..... www.ruwart.com. The author is Mary J. Ruwart.

Rayster

Great book!

And IMO Dr. Mary Ruwart would make a GREAT VP candidate. I haven't seen her for years, but every time I do I get a big hug! :)
JMR

I was a good friend of Aaron

I was a good friend of Aaron Russo. His movie is pretty good, but we have dug ourselves a deep hole.

Even if he is right about the income tax, we have been paying it for 94 years, so now it is part of the common law.

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for James Madison.

My ass!

It's not part of any law.

“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” -Joseph Goebbels-

“Allow me to control the issue and the nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws!” — Amshell Rothschild

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

That's my point, it's not

That's my point, it's not written down. Common law is not written down. Having a 12 man jury, with a unanimous verdict, and proof beyond reasonable doubt are all common law, not written in the Constitution.

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for James Madison.

GREAT QUESTIONS - WELCOME ABOARD

1. JUST GO TO WWW.RONPAULLIBRARY.ORG AND CHOOSE FROM 900+ ARTICLES AND SPEACHES. THAT WAY YOU GET IT STRAIGHT FROM FUTURE PRESIDENT PAUL.

2. GREAT QUESTION. THE FED KEEPS THE SCORE FOR THE $$$ THE GOVERNMENT CIRCULATES AND OWES. THE FED MAKES THE MONATARY POLICY, SO DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, THE FED IS AT THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM. WHEN YOU ALLOW SOMEONE TO WRITE THEIR OWN PAYCHECK, IT BEHOOVES THEM TO WRITE IT BIG, ANSWER FOR IT LATER.

3. OVER MY HEAD.

4. DECREASE OR ELIMINATE THE PAYMENT OF INTEREST. THAT MEANS PAYING OFF DEBT. THEN BUY LOCAL GOODS, BUY SECOND HAND WHERE POSIBLE, BUY AMERICAN.

5. INVESTING IS SUCH A HUGE TOPIC, BUT RON PAUL IS INVESTED IN GOLD AND SILVER AND THEIR PERSPECTIVE MINING COMPANIES. I TRADE RATHER THAN INVEST, AND AM RARELY IN ANY ISSUE FOR MORE THAN A COUPOLE DAYS. TRADING TAKES KNOWLEDGE AND PRACTICE, ALONG WITH UNPARALELLED CONSENTRATION, I DON'T RECOMEND IT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.

Nor in the absence of...

"TRADING TAKES KNOWLEDGE AND PRACTICE, ALONG WITH UNPARALLELED CONCENTRATION, I DON'T RECOMMEND IT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART".

Nor in the absence of profound discipline.

"It is knowledge that gets you into trouble in the markets, it is discipline that extricates you from it." -melgesman-

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

Hey, Thanks!

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Brother

You should think about taking off the caps lock in your posts. Caps lock implies you are yelling at whoever is reading the post. Just my two cents, do with it what you will.

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Another good book.....Healing Our World

Rayster
Vijay, Another good basic book is "Healing Our World in An Age of Aggression". In Oct '06 at Amazon, it reached #1 in two catagories, Practical Politics and Economic Policy & Development. There is an endorsement on the back by Ron Paul. Hope this helps. Ray

Rayster

It was a documentary I just watched it by arron russo

there a link to down load it here
FDIC only insures deposits up to a 100K

FDIC

Is a racket/rhetorical tool to convince people that their deposits are safe under a regime of fractional reserve banking.

This is inherently instable because any issues with banks being insolvent and unable to pay depositors would imply a more systemic issue where the minimal resources of the FDIC would VERY RAPIDLY be dwarfed by the claims put on it by a mass of "insured" accounts.

You can insure against accidents and "random" health issues, but you fundamentally CANNOT insure against "systemic" accidents. FDIC would work if bank failures happened in a predictable, limited, haphazard manner, but the reality is, bank failures are MASS EVENTS, where insurance fundamentally CANNOT work.

If you have savings or checking accounts at a banking institution, you SHOULD NOT be assuaged of any fear by FDIC insurance. If your bank goes down, FDIC won't be able to do a blessed thing, other than have the Fed print money - which would destroy fiat currencies relative to gold/silver anyway.

Like the post below says, keep safe cash reserves and some bullion. You can find resources online that point to more safe banking institutions.

One bank to avoid like the plague right now is Citigroup. They are in BIG trouble...

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'The Creature From Jekyll Island' by G. Edward Griffin...

...is an invaluable text to aid in understanding our modern economic system.

That book will help you along the road to answer your remaining questions on economics. There are also many good Google and YouTube video presentations regarding economics that have been linked on posts here. I'm sure there will be a flood of suggestions for you. And congratulations on opening your mind that much further. I had to watch "America: Freedom to Fascism" several times to understand some of the topics which fly past the viewer.

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Short book on the Fed

"The Case Against the Fed" by Murray Rothbard. Breaks down its history, its origins, how it works and why it is wrong and unstable. It is also only around 75-100 pages so you can read it in a day easy. Very solid book for semi-novices.

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5.

5. For someone like myself, who only has a couple thousand dollars of savings, what is the best kind of financial investment...

First some cash reserves, then own gold or silver. Both are for your own personal security. With just a couple thousand, I'd suggest 75% cash and 25% silver (pre-1965 U.S. coins 90% silver). Buy in a coin shop and give them no name, address or anything - cash purchase. Get rid of consumer debt, especially any with a variable rate. Work hard now and do all three.

My best to you.

I have some...

Good advice - but I've been collecting those since I was a kid. I have about 40 dollars worth... I've aquired them mostly from out of circulation where I work...

why is the anonymity so important when you purchase them?

Vijay

Look up

FDR executive order 1933. Tyranny.

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Good advice

I concur with this post.

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Great books on economics for beginners.

Outstanding book is "The Road to Serfdom" by F.A. Hayek. Also read "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt.

I personally don't buy into the movie. It's based on a false premise. Russo believes that the income tax is not legal, yet it is in the amendments to the constitution.

Ron Paul is my hero :)