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Iowa Straw Poll: Ron Paul Statistical Tie for First

Video of Ron Paul's speech at 1:15pm CT

  1. 28.55% (4823 votes) – Michele Bachmann
  2. 27.65% (4671 votes) – Ron Paul
  3. 13.58% (2293 votes) – Tim Pawlenty
  4. 9.81% (1657 votes) – Rick Santorum
  5. 8.62% (1456 votes) – Herman Cain
  6. 4.25% (718 votes) – Rick Perry (write-in)
  7. 3.36% (567 votes) – Mitt Romney
  8. 2.28% (385 votes) – Newt Gingrich
  9. 0.41% (69 votes) – Jon Huntsman
  10. 0.21% (35 votes) – Thaddeus McCotter
  11. 0.96% (162 votes) – "Scattering" (votes for people not on the ballot who got less than 1%)

(16,892 votes total minus the above summed still leaves 56)

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2nd place...

..could have been better than 1st in this case, I agree.

What happened to 218 votes in Iowa?

Greta Van Susteren was asking for feed back about the IOWA coverage (and may still be so I urge anyone who feels inclined to go there and complain also http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/open-thread/your-turn-pi...) and I took the opportunity to complain about the vote count and some other things.

I don't know if anyone was watching when they announced the winner but when they got around to showing the numbers they started with Pawlenty's and went down from there. Then they showed Bachman's. They didn't get around to showing Ron Paul's numbers until much later. What was that all about? Did they subtract the "scatter" number off the top of Ron Paul's score and add it to Bachman's score when they discovered she hadn't won like they wanted?

I also thought that since the numbers were so close that Ron Paul should have also been interviewed afterwards and today on the Sunday shows.

Most of all though I made sure to mention how misleading it was even after the straw poll results as they were to immediately go back to calling Romney and Perry front runners when Romney came in 7th in the straw poll and Perry was 6th.

The only people they should be talking about when referencing front-runners is Paul and Bachman.

We win!

Iowa caucus is in our sights. Yesterday i had the time of my life meeting supporters and long time friends.

We are a smarter movement:
The campaign had a youthful look with its staff but still looked sharp, clean, and the best dressed of the day. Highly impressive in the style department and cemented our credibility as a competent competitor. The chanting in your face supporters were few and far between. We are more intelligent about what works and what doesn't.

We are a stronger movement:
I was BLOWN AWAY. Where did all these supporters come from! There were a sea of I voted for Ron Paul t-shirts. Young people in particular everywhere supporting the cause, volunteering to pass out materials. Just a sight to see how far we have come and what our potential can be if we have a canvassing apparatus in place here. Young as well as old with the most diverse crowd I've seen yet. We alone can be thanked for the turnout of the day, second largest in history.

We are a growing movement:
I talked to a guy with an Obama shirt who came out to support Paul and had a productive convo about the blue republicans. Another lady and I discussed foreign policy and her support of Paul that her boyfriend (a supporter) introduced her to. Also still on the fence in regards to Obama. There was finally a small Bradley Manning contingent who at on point marched through the campus with their 6 foot banners and sporting tshirts about a broad based coalition that transcends party lines on the issue of opposing current wars. Represented on the shirt were figures such as Ron Paul, MLK, and Mark Twain. The group of progressives would be a welcome addition to our growing voting block that includes Dems and Independents.

We are winning. Time to get to work to make that victory happen.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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Oh I am so glad you took the

Oh I am so glad you took the time to post that. Loved to hear it all. :D

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The Iowa Straw Poll Mystery

Federal Jack
Aug 14, 2011

The official number of votes counted in the 2011 Iowa Straw Poll is 16,892. The general breakdown of the total is as follows:

4823 – Michelle Bachmann
4671 – Ron Paul
2293 – Pawlenty
1657 – Santorum
1456 – Cain
718 – Perry
567 – Romney
385 – Gingrich
69 – Huntsman
35 – McCotter

Ok, so let’s add up the votes (4823 + 4671 + 2293 + 1657 + 1456 + 718 + 567 + 385 + 69 +35 = 16,674). But wait a minute, the total votes counted were 16,892 right? So, of the total votes counted in the Iowa Straw Poll amounting to 16,892. The ten candidates listed above garnered 16,674. Well that leaves 218 votes unaccounted for.

So where did the remaining 218 votes go?

MSNBC has reported that the 218 is actually only 162 votes that are a “scattering” of ballots for candidates receiving less than one percent of the votes. Ok, fine, so who are these candidates? In addition, if as MSNBC is reporting it is only 162 and not 218, then where did the other 56 votes go? Hey! Let’s confuse the public even more!

Source: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/13/7366544-bach...

Let’s move on shall we?

FOX News and most other news outlets seem to have solved this mystery. Instead of accuracy in reporting, they simply resort to saying, “Bachmann received 28 percent of the nearly 17,000 votes cast.” No need to count the votes, just say “nearly 17,000″.

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/13/finally-here-ames...

To be very clear, Congressman Ron Paul and Senator Michele Bachmann only had 152 votes difference in the Straw Poll.

Bachmann wins by 152 votes, meanwhile 218 votes seem to be unaccounted for publicly. While I am sure there is a very good reason for the missing votes, this is precisely what causes distrust of government and the media.

One other mystery is why media outlets seem to erase Ron Paul from most headlines and instead replace him with Rick Perry.

http://www.infowars.com/the-iowa-straw-poll-mystery/

Isn't the Straw Poll a Party event, not government.

Direct complaints to the Party Leadership if your a member.

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thus the "remainder"

yep. *shrugs*

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

Winner confused about law and rights!

Ron Paul respects the law and everyone's rights.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/8573-gop-d...

Free includes debt-free!

I saw one Palin home made

I saw one Palin home made sign towards the end of the day. I saw Huckabee (Huck) oval stickers on a few people.

I sat through Ron Paul, Pawlenty and Bachmann's speeches in the Hilton Colliseum. Ron Paul's speech is full of issues. He talked about life, war, economy, FED, how to get out of recession, and getting ovations from the audience. He had to stop the cheering near the podium so that he could get on with his train of thought and deliver THE message; unlike the other two speakers who seem to be more cheerleading than delivering any message at all.

Pawlenty's can be described as Obama bashing, plain and simple. Every other sentence was to declare Obama's shortcomings, but never on the unconstitutional war--Obamacare; nor how he would do things differently. It is as if just by replacing Obama, things would be better.

Bachmann's was (1) God-invoking--like Huckabee's was--about pied-pipering the religious, social and anything conservative, by declaring herself repeatedly as one of them; as if that was the qualification to steer the country from its doomed course. (2) Then how she is a hometown girl from Waterloo from a broken family who has made it to DC. (3) She is for FAMILY--suggesting that other candidates would be vying to break the family up.

Here's the tricky part. She declared that she is a tax attorney and baffled people who don't know where that came from, and blindsided some who might not know that she was actually a Tax collector for the IRS. So in this sense her adviser had earned their keep.

There was electricity in the air at the end of Ron Paul's speech, lots stood up and cheered, clapped and chanted. Pawlenty's has little. Bachmann has some, including one seated close to me who said he supported Ron before but like Bachmann, too; and even a bus-mate of mine after hearing about Ron's 2nd place finish, said it's too bad he liked both Ron and Bachmann.

Unless we understand what makes these Bachmann supporters tick, it would be hard to win them over. I know 3 friends and these are what they said:
Friend 1) Her straightforwardness in after state of the union speech as Tea Party representation; and her Iowa roots
Friend 2) Moral fortitude, but with no elaboration of what he meant
Friend 3) Legalizing drug would lead to more drug addicts.

Please (admonishing myself), don't alienate anyone who is not currently on our camp. They could be potential supporters.

Iowa represents an even more

Iowa represents an even more "conservative" stripe of Republican, so I consider it nothing short of miraculous that Ron got 2nd. It's very, very good this early in the process.

Media was promoting Bachmann, Romney, Pawlenty

In that order: http://www.google.com/trends?q=ron+paul%2C+michele+bachmann%...

Now promoting Perry more than anyone else: http://www.google.com/trends?q=ron+paul%2C+michele+bachmann%...

Perry is the establishment's secret weapon, and they're attempting to make the Iowa straw poll irrelevant. He's only been in one day, and he's already getting more coverage than Bachmann, who won the poll.

I love the fact that Ron Paul

I love the fact that Ron Paul didn't win has allowed all the major media stations to stop claiming that the Ames straw poll means nothing. Today if you watch the media the straw poll is what's going to catapult bachmann to the "head tier" with Mitt and Perry. Amazing the complete 180 in a matter of 24 hours.

ames being relevant also makes Iowans happy

If Paul won imagine the embarrassment and loss of future funds that Ames poll brings in for the local party. Ron was destined to lose or contribute to the demise of their precious poll.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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www.ivaw.org/operation-recovery - Stop Deploying Traumatized Troops

Lies, I don't see any problem with that website..

Thanks for the post!

Bachmann Rigged Iowa Poll by Buying "At Least" 4000 Votes

from an anonymous activist @ domasjefferson.com (you need firesfox with the following addons to safely view the page or you will get a govt virus and lose your computer: noscipt, taco, ghostery, tor browser, https everywhere, adblock. better privacy and google sharing)

"AFP reported that "It [Ames Straw Poll] has been criticized as playing too heavily in favor of candidates that are well financed, since their campaigns can buy the $30 tickets for their supporters to attend and presumably vote in their favor."

The Ames event was considered to be a Republican fundraiser, yet Bachmann's campaign bought and "handed out at least 4,000 free tickets to supporters."

Therefore, Bachmann appears to have rigged the vote at a minimum direct cost of $120,000 to her campaign.

Another anomaly with the vote surfaced this morning when it was discovered that 218 votes went unaccounted for. In other words, these votes were in the overall tally but not registered to any of the candidates.

One would think the media would attempt to uncover the discrepancy given the razor thin 152-vote margin between Bachmann and Paul. However, so far, they've been content to call her the "queen" of the event."

link (please read safely warning above):
http://www.domasjefferson.com/news/bachmann-rigged-iowa-poll...

I didn't see any problems with the website.

Maybe you are already hacked.

A free ticket is an incentive to vote

but the person is still responsible for their own decision. Don't mull over what happened too much, this was not the general election.

To Defeatists...

For you guys that are always negative and are crying and calling names because Ron Paul didn't with the Ames Straw Poll...

Pat Robertson won the Ames Straw poll, did he become president?
Phil Gramm won the Ames Straw poll, did he become president?
Mitt Romney won the Ames Straw poll, did he become the president?
Bob Dole won and didn't become the president.

In 1979 George H W Bush won the Ames Straw Poll, but Ronald Regan became the president in 1980....

Agree....the best thing that comes from a win

like this is the free publicity from the press. The worst....there's a bigger target on your back. Ron Paul has always played politics like a chess game. He is humble, but clever and sly too. This WILL work to his advantage...he'll see to it!

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I'm quite confident Bachmann will likely burn herself down

by mid next year, if the opponents don't first via mud slinging.

Besides, I don't mean it as my personal belief and truthfully I'm really not even sure where I stand on the issue myself because I never really deeply contemplated it, but I don't believe all of America is ready to elect a female president quite yet.

I'm sure many people wouldn't mind it, but I really believe there are far too many out there in voter land that are not comfortable with the idea of a female president yet.

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Maybe her former employer, The U.S. Dept. of Treasury,....

and the I.R.S. will audit her tax returns. She is an insider, like Cain, Gingrich, and the others all posing as outsiders.

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Update: Gretawire straw poll: RP in a landslide

Michele also-ran-loser Who?

Thank you, we have already counted your vote.

Paul 59.8% (2,822 votes)
Palin 15.17% (716 votes)
Perry 8.48% (400 votes)
Bachmann 5.06% (239 votes)
Cain 3.62% (171 votes)
Romney 2.78% (131 votes)
Gingrich 2.44% (115 votes)
Santorum 1.06% (50 votes)
Huntsman 0.64% (30 votes)
Pawlenty 0.42% (20 votes)
McCotter 0.19% (9 votes)
Johnson 0.19% (9 votes)
Roemer 0.11% (5 votes)
Kartger 0.04% (2 votes)

Total Votes: 4,719

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/poll/here-is-the-gretawi...

Just an on the ground perspective from Ames

For you all. The Bachmann camp had an impressive showing but so did Paul. I absolutely could not believe how professional and organized the Paul camp was. We had the largest tent city with several stations and some satelites around the campus. They even had a booth for Veterans for Ron Paul with awesome banners and informative signage and video. I ran into three members from the press yesterday who made similar comments to me about how well this Paul camp was put together as I passed out materials (thinking I was with the campaign) to the crowd. ALL the major press seemed to gravitate to the Bachmann site and Pawlenty for whatever reason. I never saw any big press in the Paul area. However the dynamic at the Paul camp was electric and the enthusiasm was unmatched especially during his final speech which brought in a HUGE crowd that was seated near the stage and all around the walkways, stairways, and ridges near the area. I got several picks as it was the biggest crowd since Rally the Republic. I took several strolls over to the Bachmann site throughtout the day and people seemed to mill in and out of voting, not too interesting. I know she had country music super star Randy Travis perform early in the morning, no doubt helping put her over the top, while we had Jordan Page and a group of blues musicians out of Chicago. Pawlenty had obviously less support. Santorum's site, next to Bachmann's was like a ghost town. There was little to no one there most of the day. Barely saw many Cain supporters, he had one small table. Took most of the day to see two people with Romney buttons, one with the yellow tshirt from '08. That guy was ironically hanging out in the Paul kids tent for several hours. Perry people, had some ugly shirts but were sparse. Blue republicans, talked to a few who came to vote for Paul.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
www.yaliberty.org - Young Americans for Liberty
www.ivaw.org/operation-recovery - Stop Deploying Traumatized Troops

Here's what says it all about Bachmann

This video needs to be viral. Bachmann does not stand for the tea party. (behind closed doors)She is a Bush loving fanboy who is being propped up by the MSM because of her affection for Bush. The video says all we need to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_uiudt_Kiw

If people understand this, they will lose her tea party appeal. RevPAC should make a video, do we want a leader that embraces bush (literally) or a leader that embraces the words of the constitution.

-- Give me liberty or give me death --

That video really threw me.

That video really threw me. UGHHH.

Another Neo-Con Warmonger !

Through and through.

beesting

Congrats to everyone for all

Congrats to everyone for all their hard work and generous donations! This is now a four-horse race with the news of Pawlenty dropping out. Thanks to everyone's hard work and those dedicated Iowans who came from all over IA to vote for Liberty, RP's campaign has only begun. Had RP had a turnout like Pawlenty his campaign would have been over before it started.

One down...three to go

Look out, Bachmann, Perry and Romney!

I'm Awake now!!!!

I decided about 1 month ago to randomly look up Ron Paul because I had heard his name in the last election, well I am happy I did its that moment everyone talks about when you first hear Ron Speak, Well what can I say the Man is a Genius and he has my vote and more importantly I now everyday watch videos and read articles and keep up on the politics and I have an email list that I send all the stuff out to I think I have help about 7 others wake up to date and we are just getting started.

Also Listening to what Ron it talking about has made me a better person today.

Go Ron!!!!!

The spirit is in the blood

The American spirit is strong. The blood knows its own and loves the truth. It is never fearful and always seeks out its own kind. The blood derives its power from its creator and is always respectful of its fathers. Its loyalty flows from its words and is always known by its deeds. It always hold high the individual and rejects their subjugation.

congrats!

It feels great doesn't it!

I am a human becoming, help me to become.