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Jack Hunter responds to American Spectator smears: Ron Paul and Conservatism

In a recent column, Jeffrey Lord warned that Ron Paul's presidential bid was secretly a "Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign." Writes Lord: "the Paul campaign is not just a campaign for president. This is a campaign -- a serious campaign -- to re-educate the American people…" For Lord, Paul's alleged reeducation mission means passing off liberal ideas as conservative. This is amusing -- because this is precisely what self-described conservatives of Lord's ilk have been doing for years.

Imagine that there never was a President George W. Bush, and when Bill Clinton left the White House he was immediately replaced with Barack Obama. Now imagine Obama carried out the exact same agenda as Bush -- Medicare Plan D, No Child Left Behind, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars -- the whole works. Would conservatives have generally supported Obama as they did Bush -- or would they have rightly criticized the most big government president in our history at that time?

Despite his glaringly statist record, did Lord ever consider Bush a "neo-liberal"?

Read more: http://spectator.org/archives/2011/08/24/ron-paul-and-conser...

Lord's response to Jack's response is revisionist garbage. Don't forget to leave your coments on their site folks!
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American Conservative Mag weighs in on Lord's misrepresentations: http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2011/08/24/no-ron-paul-is-no...
Thanks Brutus56 for making us aware!



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This is seriously dumb

From the response to Jack Hunter's response:

Mr. Means wrote in his memoirs that Paul insisted "Reagan wasn't really a conservative and didn't represent conservative Republicans." Means was so in sync with Ron Paul that he agreed, adding that Reagan was a "Mussolini fascist." Newsflash: Ron Paul believes Ronald Reagan was a fascist? Tell us more, Mr. Hunter!

"We don't need a Department of Energy; we need a Department of Freedom" - RP
"We need to defend liberty.. and liberty!" - RP

Just a note to our "friend".

Hello Mr. Lords,

War has always been a key form of collectivization, benefiting the / an oligarchy… How much do you or your organization get from the establishment? This is why I dropped my subscription with your “publication” years ago, old lefties eh.
When Ron wins, prepare for Jeffersonian republicanism and Washington (the district of confusion) D.C. becomes a sleepy town again :^)

Regards,

Craig
craigmfree@gmail.com

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.)
Ron Paul 2012

Bias

"I can't explain it as anything other than outright bias against the man and his ideas."

Read my piece about the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations). It will inform you why Ron Paul has been, and will always be, marginalized.

Click on my name and then search recent posts. There are a couple that may provide you with some answers.

jeffrey lord...

... should get a full refund of his college tuition, that is, if he ever graduated. He has learned nothing - a name caller, not an analyst. If he had a genuine education, he would be able to recognize that Ron Paul is the genius in the race, the only candidate that understands the issues (under stands the Constitution!) and offers genuine solutions. The only candidate with integrity. The only candidate worthy of respect. Some people just don't get it. They are too afraid they might have to admit that they were wrong, so they persist in their ignorance. I couldn't figure what old lordy was trying to get across.

Plano TX

And this

And this one:

http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2011/08/24/no-ron-paul-is-no...

malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

I am an aristocrat. I love liberty; I hate equality. - John Randolph of Roanoke

I gotta say. The one dude in

I gotta say. The one dude in the comments who is constantly calling the other dude an Israel firster has some bad debate skills and won't counter with anything of logic. This is the kind of tactics we need to avoid in comment sections so we can show we have knowledge over name calling.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

I understand the sentiments.

However, if you really look at the term "Israel Firster", he is actually hitting dead center in the target, most succinctly.
It's not really "name calling". It is a dead-on-target assessment. And that one thing is driving all the rest of that neocon's positions.

I totally agree but of course

I totally agree but of course they will use the typical anti-semite term, without really understanding it, and think it's the only argument we have.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Not trying to be argumentative,

but here are my thoughts about it.

Most of these hard-core neocons are not going to be swayed. They are in it for neocon power, and that is not going to change. They are NOT EVER going to vote for RP. Period.

The fight is for the ones that may be somewhat "on the fence".

Now, the neocons are famous for calling RP and us "the blame America crowd", in an attempt to besmirch our patriotism in the minds of others. It's a ploy.
With our use of "Israel Firsters", it allows us to showcase the FACT that it is actually the neocons whose patriotism is in question. And that is the real truth.

So, it is a neutralizer against their their smear, and puts them back on their heels on the defensive, and also may give cause to some onlookers to look at how/why these neocons ARE putting Israel first.

Personally, I think it's a winner, not a loser. We need to fight for what's right, not sit down with our hands folded while they run all over us, because we're too afraid to make a peep.
We can't win by only playing defense. We have to score.

Let's get involved

and improve our reputation by making cogent responses.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself." - Thomas Jefferson

Sun Tzu would love to battle

Sun Tzu would love to battle the Neo-conservative's foreign policyof today...it's so fundamentally flawed it's disgusting.

I thought the same thing

I just recently read 'art of war', and couldn't help but think of how big of idiots we are. I had to keep reminding myself, 'oh yeah, we aren't there to win'.