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Jack Hunter Video: Does Attacking Neoconservatism Reflect Racism or Reality?

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Speaking of neocons...

is anyone going to waste their time/money reading Cheney's new book?

He even ADMITS to being a war criminal, and people are still denying it. Hell, even Reagan Jr. said it. Though I suppose if the mainstream GOP voters admit it, then they have to admit that their position on the "War on Terror" is wrong as well...but we can't have any of that, no no! It's always the other side's fault!

It's endlessly frustrating to see so many people bury their heads in the sand. Hopefully when/if they come up for air they'll see the big picture.

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Jack, You Got It All Wrong!

The barbaric and tyrannical Foreign Policy of Obama and Bush has zero relationship whatsoever to John Lennon's vision.

Lennon was a peace advocate, who called for "Revolution" by means of "changing people's heads" not by Bombs (ironically, similiar to what Ron Paul also calls for).

Neoconservatism, and the War Establishment's policy promoted by both Obama and Bush (and they are exactly the same) is about The Control of World Resources (using violence and mass-murder) and really nothing else.

Tell me what is "uptopian" about that? Uptopian for whom? The International Bankers? The Oil Multinationals? Wall Street?

There ain't nuthin "Uptopian" about it for Main Street.

And John Lennon would rebel against all of this War insanity and mass-murder if he were still alive to do so.

Let's not forget that neocons

Let's not forget that neocons are in the democrat party as well-Obama, Hilary, even Juan Cole now that we've annexed Libya.

Neoconservatism is merely one

Neoconservatism is merely one branch of progressivism. Neocon foreign policy is Woodrow Wilson on steroids.

After reading Hamilton's curse

I concluded that Hamilton was Father of the American Conm, and forefather of the Neo-con.

Hiding behind the force of government, Hamilton hired the Bondholders of America's debt to be officers in an Army sent to collect the Whiskey Tax to pay that debt. He saw it as a way to curb alcohol consumption and to pay off the American debt.

The Whiskey Rebellion ensued.

Free includes debt-free!

Where are the Rush Limbaugh Pictures?

Rush Limbaugh should be front and center in a group picture of neocons. He has been cheering them on and propagandizing for them for a generation. We need to take Rush Limbaugh "head on" for the neo-con, anti-Tea-Partier that he is!

Old con, new con or the trendy neo-con = "con"fidence trick!

The confidence trick is also known as a con game, con, scam, grift, hustle, bunko, swindle, flim flam, gaffle or bamboozle. The intended victim(s) are known as marks. Accomplices are are known as shills. ~wiki

A brief review neo-con thought.

Neo-cons hide their true intentions behind complex political philosophies, making my summary seem like an attack on a strawman. In my defense I argue that before reading the linked article in 2003 I could find nothing meaningful or consistent in their positions or beliefs.

A natural order of inequality
Neo-cons operate as if the natural order is their intellectual domination and the subordination of the vulgar masses (sheeple). Thus the neo-con's judge themselves wise.

The necessity of lies
Neocons understand that the "wise" must conceal their views for two reasons – to spare the people’s feelings regarding their domination and to protect the "wise" elite from possible reprisals. Their superiority is an intellectual superiority and not a moral one.

The dialectic of fear and tyranny
Neo-cons think that man’s humanity depends on a willingness to rush naked into battle and headlong to his death. Neo-cons take up the task and use their intelligence to trick the masses into battle. While the wise neo-cons pursue the “higher” pleasures as a reward.

The intoxication of perpetual war
The neo-cons see themselves as saviors since they define man's humanity as a struggle to the death. For bringing the vulgar masses "war that redeems", neo-cons praise the glorious dead and maimed and gather in the spoils.

The machinery of government is sociopathic and psychopathic. Neo-cons blend in easily, just like the old-cons.

As have so many sociopaths and psychopaths in our history. Keeping government strictly limited and the people vigilant is our only recourse. Mark me not and woe be to shills!

Neo-Confidence. It is hardly a conservative action to add a prefix to a word that was serving perfectly well for so long.

Free includes debt-free!

Both parties were hijacked a couple generations ago

They have been sucking the USA dry ever since.

The same group of people did the same thing to Russia and several other countries.

They are pirates.

However, Russia, the US, and others conquered people to get their land.

So there are no "good guys"...just millions of innocent people, stuck in the middle, used as bargaining chips, pawns, etc.

Entire cities have been sucked dry and abandoned (that is why 47% of Detroit are illiterate)...and more cities will be sucked dry and abandoned before this is over.

This is the kind of truth that Ron Paul probably has, but can't come out and say it...for fear of his life.

The ironic thing

is that neo-conservatism was really born out of the liberal left. Some of them did not like the anti-war message. So they parted ways. We can see why they have roots in big govt think but ultimately they are indeed about WAR.

The question always is why?

Why so much desire for war and spreading "American Democracy"?

One part anyway may be found unfortunately in the fact that a lot of neo-conservatism is intermixed with supposedly supporting Israeli sovereignty and battling Israeli foes. This is indeed why many Jewish groups connected to neo-conservatives rail against Dr Paul. They THINK he is not pro-Israel but he is probably their best friend and they don't know it.

The additional irony is that much of this tough foreign policy hasn't really helped Israelis as Dr Paul also points out.

Israel is probably much less safe today as we are due to the en-grained concept that they must be directed by the U.S. and can only be kept from harm by bombing, which of course is an ideology destined to fail under these circumstances.

The real truth is that you have Israeli's on one side and Islamic fundamentalists on the other and you have the neo-cons driving a huge wedge between the two stirring up tremendous animosity and using the United States political system to do it. All to the detriment of everyone involved except those groups that reap profits out of war.

If those of Islamic faith feel they are getting shoved around and often see foreign groups killing their own, then of course there will be blowback. To think that these consequences don't exist is, well, insane.

Israel does have many wonderful attributes that can really help foster a more civilized middle east but unfortunately it has been ruled by and consulted by war mongers for so long it is difficult to see an end to the bombing, terror practices and resultant fear and hatred.

Nicely put.


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Neocons are

the absolute scum of the Earth.

And to the poster who equated them with Nazis, I disagree--the Nazis actually went and did their own dirty work, while neocons just sit on their asses and cheer every time their imagined enemy is bombed in some far off land.

I see so many posts on neocon sites that can be summed up as "I want all Muslims dead". And yet, when I ask how that's ANY different than when the Nazis blamed Jews for Germany's problems, the best they can come up with is "b-but...9/11!" How dare these pieces of garbage use that as an excuse to perpetuate genocide?

Part of me hopes that one day, these people face the harshness of the ideology that they preach, because they certainly have it coming.

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Saying American Conservatism

Saying American Conservatism is about an aggressive foreign policy, is like saying Christianity is pro-abortion.

"See? It says so right here in the Bible!" *points to and twists some obscure passage in the bible*

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Damn!!! Absolutely best line

Damn!!! Absolutely best line I've heard in a long time-

"Ronald Reagan might have seen America as a shining city on a hill but he did not rezone the entire globe to fit within our city limits."

When I hear the word

"Neoconservative" I immediately equate that word with "War-Monger".

Check out this video: http://www.bodyofwar.com/

(was on the Documentary Channel the other night)

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

"Noeconservatives" AKA

"Neoconservatives" AKA Neocons are anything but Conservative.

Neocons are closer in my opinion to Neo-Nazis than to Conservatives. Let's examine some of the differences:

1. Conservatives want small, limited, Constitutional government, Neocos want a massive government with powers to spy on the American people, search their person and invade their privacy, supposedly to "fight terrorism".

2. Conservatives want to maximize personal freedoms. Neocons ignore the idea of personal freedoms supposedly to "make us safer".

3. Conservatives wish to avoid foreign entanglements and international agreements which would jeopardize our sovereignty. Neocons wish to form coalitions with which to wage continual war. Neocons favor bribery (foreign aid) or threats (sanctions, bombing, and invasion) in order to manipulate or topple foreign governments.

4. Conservatives do not believe in going to war without a Declaration of War by the Congress. Neocons believe that the president has the power to wage war without a declaration, particularly if authorized by the UN.

5. Conservatives believe in honest money that maintains its value. Neocons support the concept of fiat money and central economic planning.

6. Conservatives believe in foreign trade, traveling to other nations and foreign nationals visiting us. Neocons demonize foreign nations in order to justify sanction, bombings and invasions.

7. Conservatives believe in leadership by example. By our example we hope to encourage other nations to adopt concepts like freedom, tolerance and free markets. Neocons prefer bribery or force to manipulate other nations to comply with their wishes.

8. Conservatives oppose foreign aid because it is unconstitutional. Neocons favor foreign aid as one more tool to control other nations.

9. Conservative agree with the Constitution that any power not granted the federal government in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution is reserved for the states or the people. Neocons wish to use the power of the federal government to bring about change, regardless of what the Constitution says.

10. Conservatives want the Constitution enforced, realizing that almost all of our problems are the result of not following the Constitution. Neocons continue to introduce Constitutional Amendments to solve our problems. Neocons don't seem to understand that Amendments to the Constitution are no more likely to be followed than the Constitution itself, and that if the Constitution was followed, the problems would be eliminated.

I would make a few distinctions:

1. Conservaitves want to use the force of government to legislated theor own brand of morality. Libertarians want to dispense with that force.

2. Libertarians, again, in stead of conservaitves.

3. Libertarians endorse trade and travel. Conservatives are usually "Israel firsters."

4. True.

5. True.

6. Libertarians, again, believe in trade and travel, not so much conservatives, except to trade and travel with Israel.

7. More libertarian than conservative, again.

8. Most conservatives support foreign aid to Israel. Libertairans, again, do not.

9. True.

10. True.

I would suggest that you are more of a libertarian than a conservative. You may lean right on the spectrum, but that is unimportant. The true measure on the political scale is authoritarian vs. non-agression.

Everyone who falls on the non-agression side can get along very, very well.

In My Own Defence

1. True Conservatives base our law on our common culture, which is historically Christian. This does not imply that Americans citizens obligated to follow the Christian religion. It just means that our common culture is based on Christian values. Even Libertarians should recognize that we need some source to determine common values.

2. I think both Libertarians and true Conservatives share this.

3. I disagree. It is the Neocons who support "Israel First", not Conservatives. Conservatives would like to have friendly relationships with all countries. But Conservatives want us Out of the UN, NATO, the World Bank, the IMF, and any entanglements with other nations.

6. Again, not true Conservatives.

I now prefer to refer to myself as a Constitutionalist because many people associate Conservativism with Neocon values. I guess a lot of Conservatives would think of me as a Libertarian, but while I am opposed to the phony "War on Drugs", I really do think that people should avoid them.


Jack another terrific video. Neo-cons what are they good for Absolutely Nothin'.

9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2012

What "neocon" means to me

For me, a "neocon" is a big government republican; nothing more, nothing less.

"Men are ruled, at this minute, by the clock, by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern."

-G.K. Chesterton

Actually what it really means

Actually what it really means is war monger..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

It can't be "racism",

because they are NOT a race.


Loved it! Thank you for posting.

The tides are changing!

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