Please watch. It is free.
And wake up if you haven't investigated 9-11 a little bit.
They are hopeless.
He claims to not want to be associated with this talk, but it never even enters his mind that others don't want to be associated with his ignorance.
You really think you'll have a problem getting a new
investigation with Ron in office? Let's stay focused and win. We don't need to load up the enemy's cannon and shoot it too. I thought you agreed with me on this? Keep it away from the campaign and grassroots until after the election.
"until after the election".
Now we have to choose - Trust over Principles.
Most of the culprits who are responsible for 911 are in America, for incompetence or collusion, none have been charged. Their relatives / colleagues lobby to save them from blame, inhibit this topic, not raise this issue. But remember this way govt version holds the ground, and that is very very cruel, because oppression is on-going, innocents have to suffer. Do you have any program/ plan to stop Murder-Inc. ??
Ticks, Trick$ & Traps - http://www.usDebtClock.org/
Hitmen Confess - https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dn7Fzm1hEiDQ
Misinformed finds - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpROEzHEtOI
Yeah, and I've been onboard with that for 9 1/2 years, but is THIS site the place to do that?
Nobody is censoring you - just asking that you put it in the right forum.
Here we are focused on getting Ron Paul elected to the highest office in the land.
Like it or not, we aren't going to do that by associating his campaign with such an emotionally charged and controversial subject.
Like it or not, most people are just not prepared for it.
Like it or not, there is too much disinformation about 9/11 - which I will NOT go into, precisely because it only instigates pointless and divisive arguments that have ZERO to do with electing Ron Paul.
"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan
If RP gets elected, these same obstructionists will demand that nobody say anything about it then, either. Because of some new lame excuse like "He just got elected! We can't talk about controversial subjects right now, so shut up!"
Then, after a couple of years these same obstructionists will say, "He has to campaign for re-election! We can't talk about controversial subjects right now, so shut up!"
Then after he's out of office, these same obstructionists will say, "We need to get a new candidate elected! We can't talk about controversial subjects right now, so shut up!"
Get the picture?
They don't EVER want the subject brought up.
AntiFed, thank you for your attention and response. Yes, dis-info does harm to the cause of 911 truth movement. Distraction / Confusion will harm the liberty movement & the RP's election.
F-buzz, In a way I agree with you.
Here is where we might find some agreement:
1. There are issues more "palatable" to the general public that can be addressed.
2. 9/11 is a very emotional and therefore irrational topic for most people, regardless of their particular viewpoint.
3. It is divisive.
4. There is so much corruption, incompetence and failed policy to choose from that we can already agree on, that there really is no need to pursue the more controversial issues at this time.
5. No good will come from dividing our camp with these issues.
6. This argument isn't likely to be resolved anytime soon and certainly will never be resolved if we cannot pull together and restore our constitutional and lawful government.
7. This is a private site and Michael has the final word on what is posted and where.
8. There is a reason for the division of forum topics. please post in the appropriate forum.
It's still early so forgive me if this is a bit muddled.
AntiFed, DPers can appreciate your concerns, and the points noted, self-control is good. Same time let us not assume too much, that what issues are palatable to the public. Let There Be Light, whatever may happen.
you wrote in 6. "This argument isn't likely to be resolved anytime soon - -". Already 10 years have past, and we have electronic speed of communications + mass-media. Something is very wrong, which the elections will Not resolve. Therefore Truth should not 'wait', specially among those who are at Liberty to share. Surely there should be inhibitions on lies/ half-truths/ provocative propaganda / false blame.
"Therefore Truth should not 'wait', specially among those who are at Liberty to share. Surely there should be inhibitions on lies/ half-truths/ provocative propaganda / false blame."
Surely there are other venues or forums in which this can be achieved. It isn't being stifled here, it is given a lower priority here because it is not the focus of this site.
and priority. agreed. understand and appreciate. Thanks.
And have been for a long time. It's not to say they are all trolls, or single issue posters, and some are even long time members. But if you notice the accounts which comment on this stuff, it's pretty much the same 10-15 of them over and over.
They feel it is their personal right to post anything they want on Michael's website. Part of the problem is after 2008 he was very loose with the moderation, so many times this place devolved into a truther feeding frenzy. Now that we're back in campaign mode and hiding some threads which are detrimental to the campaign, they feel slighted and are focusing all of their attention on bombing the dailypaul with conspiracy theories.
There is no point telling them it belongs in off-topic. They know where it belongs and purposely use the rp2012 forum so their fetish gets on the front page.
911 conspiracy threads are about as helpful to the campaign as threads defending NAMBLA's right to publish material encouraging child molesting. Yes there is a good conversation to be had about it, but is this the appropriate setting? I think not
So you are equating those of us that are interested in the truth with pedophiles? Isn't that a little low even for you?
But I am flattered you read all the way through my post to find that little dagger-gem I put in there.
There is a legitimate liberty related discussion about NAMBLA and the 1st amendment, but is this the proper venue? Probably not. I'm drawing a parallel not likening you guys to pedophiles.
The facts are the facts, however we may all come to different conclusions. That is the beauty of freedom and liberty.
I believe understanding how the world is controlled is paramount to our cause. I believe we will never win and will never live in a free country until we understand these facts.
You conclude differently and that is fine too. We should all be free to make our own conclusions.
What is off-topic depends on your belief system. For me understanding the massive conspiracy in the world is THE most important topic if we want Ron Paul to win.
The waking up manual: http://www.dailypaul.com/168937/the-waking-up-manual-how-to-...
of thought, is easy, you canNot hear me thinking. I will only reveal that - I heard (& like) what you typed.
but when you start to see the whole picture it is so obvious and the funny thing is that the truth sets you free.
Knowing how the world is being run now gives me a great feeling of calm and peace. Yes it is horrible - compared to what I believed before - but it is unraveling so fast there is lots to look forward to.
And more importantly, it is possible to know this and then just move on. I have been absorbed by this very real conspiracy but I now feel how I am more and more able to free myself from it and not let it run MY life while at the same time offering my services to anybody who are ready to wake up and wants to know more.
Lars, so right, truth sets you free. Here is one more video,
911 David Ray Griffin - 911 The Myth and The Reality.-
There are more, I will post at intervals.
loose change presentation on or around the 5th Anniversary is what woke me up. Basically 3 college kids taking the news from that day and proving without a DOUBT that the Governments Conspiracy is false and impossible. First I was mad at myself for being such an idiot for 5 years then I started wondering where the fuck is the mainstream media the past 5 years??? These dipshits were drumming up the war propaganda. Since 911 There hasn't been "A War On Terror" it's been "A War Of Terror" on our citizens and those abroad.
9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2012
More and more friends of mine keep bringing this topic up. And most are people that are not big into politics. The percentage of Americans questioning the 9/11 story is much higher than we think.
Too many coincidences. Too much ignored evidence.
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