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Ron HAS to win Iowa.

I know alot of us have been saying this, but I want someone who is close to the campaign to get the word to them that the MOST IMPORTANT thing that we can do is to win Iowa.

While not an important state normally (Mike Huckabee won in 2008 and didn't win the nomination), for us it is IMMENSELY important due to the lack of faith in Ron's ability to win and the fact that the Media will do us NO favors if we get anything less than a victory.

If Ron wins Iowa, NH is a much "friendlier" Ron base and coming off of a victory, a lot of "on the fence" supporters will vote for him. On the other hand, if we don't win IA a lot of on the fence voters will simply figure that he can't win since we know the media will downplay even a second place finish anyway and vote for the lesser of the rest of the evils.

The most important thing we can do is to prove the "he can't win" crowd wrong. Winning in IA is how we can do that.



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Don't just hope for it though...

And don't wait for the official campaign to send out marching orders...

rp2012.org is the grassroots key to winning Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina - please get involved when we sound the call to rally the troops!:) (we'll post here and get word out online and over the airwaves)

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BTW, Ron Paul may not win

BTW,
Ron Paul may not win Iowa. He can, but the establishment values it too much. It is more valued than it should be, and it isn't good strategy to insist we must or we are lost.

It's not even good salesmanship.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

We need to have an attitude that Ron Paul has to win every state

And do everything we can to make that happen

Exactly.

...And fight like each state is the state that will decide this election.

Alright Max, how is "I REALLY

Alright Max, how is "I REALLY hope we win Iowa because it will really make the metaphorical dominoes start falling, but if we don't we can still win by getting a close second and then pulling through in other states, or even simply doing well in other states regardless of Iowa."

Is that positive enough for you?

Union, Union County, NJ

Yes, it might be better.And

Yes, it might be better.

And you may break through that board or just sting your hand a little with that attitude. A little better.

Sorry if you didn't intend it that way. I've been dealing with trolls for days on other sites.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Take you appeals to emotion

Take your appeals to emotion and it has to be done a certain way and just shove it.

I get this all day from neocons. If anything is worse than illogic in politics, it is the group think and the we have to be in it all together.

Perfect example of not following God if we have to be in it all together. And perhaps - the reason why REASON isn't liked. We HAVE to do it this way - so we all go to hell together!

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

He needs to

visit more small towns in iowa.when a candidate makes a speech in a small town, its a big deal to these people. lots of candidates came to Algona,Iowa, which is about 20 miles from where i live.Obamma, Hillary,Romney,Huckabee,Fred Thompson,but no Ron Paul, the closest hes come to where i live was Mason City and that was almost an hour away, and thats not really a small town either.in small towns like mine, people talk, hell, everyone knows each other by name out here.i feel the farmers need to know about his plan to reintroduce hemp back to their businesses and how many many business opportunities can be generated from hemp at a local level which means jobs, jobs, and more jobs!Iowa could be king of the hemp industry. they already have the ethonol and biodiesel plants in place.hemp would make these plants operate much cheaper and efficiently.the possibilties of this crop are limitless and the farmers need to made note of this

This is a losing post again

In Karate, they teach you that you break your hands if you try to break through at the surface instead of beyond.

This is intentionally a losing post, and we had these last election too. Even HAS in the title is an appeal to emotion, not reason or facts.

Has to, why? Why the emphasis as if it is a fact? Who says.

Loser attitude. Trying to teach others to have it.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I stated my reasoning in my

I stated my reasoning in my post. It's plainly there, and it is based on previous election cycles coupled with the nature in which many not involved in the campaign view RP's chances of winning.

If you really think that the post is a "losing" post, then stop bumping it. Surely, it will just fade away.

Union, Union County, NJ

Forget about Max.

I know the rest of us have.

Carry on.

You don't know me Scott, but

You don't know me Scott, but if you want, I'll pray for you.

It's never to late to be saved, even if you are involved in black magic, you can be saved!

(I might be confusing you with someone else from Cincinnati fyi).

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

LOL!!!

Black magic?

Saved?

I am fairly well known in this area and this is my real name.

I am not hiding from anything, unlike you.

Is that you Oruval?

LOL.

Yes, Scott, and I know you.

Yes, Scott, and I know you. You obviously don't know me.

I remember attending libertarian meetings way back when from your area.

It isn't too late to be saved, and know the Lord Jesus Christ. And Thiel either, if that is the person that said they were into black magic at one time.

I'm pretty sure he said he stopped, but I never heard him say he got saved,

It doesn't matter how much you've sinned, God has already loved you and made a way for you to be blessed and have eternal life.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

You are too funny.

Saved!!!

Go back to your hole or be a little more productive here.

As it stands, you are wasting bits on your mysticism kookery.

God Bless.

Scott,Blessings and cursing

Scott,
Blessings and cursing don't come from the same mouth.

"Mocking - ie Saved!!!, insults, put downs".

All of that is sin. I have no reason to think you are saved or even know God. If you are merely sinning against me, I forgive you. But as it is, I'll pray for you.

The Holy Spirit and the Bible gives a wonderful insight into people, no matter what they claim. I didn't need to have actually known you to have insight.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

You know what?

I'm getting so tired of reading condescending posts by holy rollers like you.

Stop using your religion as an excuse to be an arrogant, self-righteous twit.

A signature used to be here!

We're having a personal fight

We're having a personal fight from years ago.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

James 3:10 Out of the same

James 3:10
Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. 11Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? 12Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

James 2 on empty blessings and empty love

James 2

15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Maybe I should be praying for you to be saved.

You assume damnation as if you already know the sentence.

What does the bible say about judging?

Remember, every response bumps this thread that you think is idiotic.

I know, it is a catch 22. I have been in your shoes. I grew. Are you capable of growing?

LOL.

I'm not assuming

I'm not assuming anything.

You can pray for anyone. God already knows if you are saved or not. Doesn't prevent me from praying for anyone.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

FYI - Scott

FYI - Scott,
You don't know me, and I mean that even if you meet someone and remember anything about me.

I mean, I'll pray for you because you don't know me. Your mocking attitude grieves me, and it is exactly like what I'd expect as what was said above.

PS I don't mean I am personally grieved by your mocking attitude, I mean I think that is how you would be towards anyone you lose your attitude to, and that which is in your inside grieves me, and I'd rather you know God's love instead.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Now that I successfully got you to endlessly bump

this thread that you hate ...

I think you have me mistaken with someone else.

I am a cradle Catholic and I intend to go to my grave a Catholic.

And in between, I plan on being nothing more than Catholic.

Sorry to disappoint.

Feel free to continue to endlessly bump this thread you so hate.

You are too funny.

It doesn't matter to me if a

It doesn't matter to me if a thread is bumped. I don't think that way. If my comments are valuable, THAT is what I am bumping.

Ok, if you are a Catholic, who was the black magic guy? Or for that matter, the old objectivist guy and his wife.

Personally, it doesn't matter to me. I have met you. I'm sure I wouldn't have liked you then, because I don't like you here, but I've grown and know we all have faults. I'm just trying to remember who you were exactly.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

You want proof?

I'll give you my age, rank, and serial number all in one link ...

http://www.khsaa.org/records/swimming/boysswimrecords.pdf

Check out my school affiliation.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

You are a crazy kook.

I hope this helps you to wake up.

God Bless.

I don't want proof of

I don't want proof of anything - but since you said a bunch of insults to me, starting out with "we all have forgotten Max", which was very personal using my name, and also an appeal to group think, I just wanted to remember exactly who you were after that.

Blessings and cursings don't preceed from the same mouth. It doesn't matter how many times you say God bless you.

God loves you. And I love you. But God still loves you even if you ever make me mad :)

The message is perfect:

James 3:10
10Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. 11Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? 12Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

God loves me ...

EVEN IF I MAKE YOU MAD !!??

How narcissistic can you get?

I repeat ... you are too funny.

You don't ever get mad Scott?

You don't ever get mad Scott? What rational excuse can you give for using one insult after another?

This conversation is over. I'm sorry for you. If I ever run into you outside this board, I won't even remember anything you did.

Edit: In fact, I'll treat you like an honest friend does if you want me to.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Well JC himself ...

intentionally pissed off people to make a point.

Even JC would not be conceited enough to defend his actions by saying, "I am God's son and I can tell you that he still loves you even though you have made me mad."

You are too silly.

Or at least I hope you are being silly ...

because the only other alternative is that you are very sick psychologically.

At that ...

I think I will pray for you tonight.