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Idea: Gas for a silver dime project

Hi all. This is my idea for local events across the nation that will be like sign waves, but would probably generate more news.

We'll offer to pay for a gallon of gasoline at the stations we will be at for a silver dime (give or take some - both prices fluctuate; a silver dime is about 3.06 right now, much more several weeks ago). Just give one of our Ron Paul volunteers a silver dime or so (give or take) per gallon, and he will pay for your gas with FRNs.

This sounda a lot more fun than sign waving, especially on the national level, and it is self-generating. After the first chip-ins or whatever to get it going, silver dimes can be resold for more FRNs for the next time.

This can really teach people that it really is about inflation, even if many people don't have silver dimes. I filled my whole tank up for $1.20.

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From Catherine Austin Fitts

From Catherine Austin Fitts and Franklin Sanders (The Money Changer)

http://www.silverandgoldaremoney.com/
so you can figure out what the value of your silver is on a daily basis
Thay also have a free phone app.

Leave a Silver dime as a tip for wait staff.

Just remind them of its value (reference the debate), and give them a "token" of your appreciation. A Silver dime is a nice tip for a $20 meal.

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Cashiers

Keep in mind that when you are dealing with a minimum-wage cashier, or any employee, they are likely to get into trouble if they take your silver dime.

For one thing, they may well just deposit it as a dime, or accidentally give it as change.

This was a major problem with the alternative currencies being "passed off" as FRNs. It doesn't do any good if your recipient is confused and gets into trouble for taking a dime instead.

However, this whole idea is worth exploring, because your old folks remember when there were silver coins that actually bought things. We need the old folks' vote!

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a minimum-wage cashier, who doesn't know any better,

will not be giving you a gas purchase at a dime per gallon.

Bag of Junk

My first silver purchase 3 years ago was a bag of "junk" silver. When Dr. Paul pointed out that I could get a gallon of gas for each dime, it made me happy.

Of course, it won't cover the taxes, not in CA. But I suppose it will, someday. Soon.

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As our DailyPaul proprietor will take silver, so will many.

Ask directly to the owner/operator. With a brief introduction & price sheets, proprietor can accept whatever token they desire. Silver is commonly known to those that grew up in America more then 2 score & 7 years ago, when our forefathers set forth to remove silver from US coin... To form a less perfect union.

See Gene Kozio, DailyPaul member posts about using silver to buy his daily bread, coffee... dinner, theater tickets...

Or if you got the nerve, ask me.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Do you barter your silver on Craigslist?

Whenever I list something for sale I mention that I also accept silver. And when I buy at farmers markets, I offer silver.

I love dimes - Mercurys and pre-65 Roosevelts. Just a little bit of silver to start a conversation and spread the message. They won't forget about that silver dime in their pocket!

You will never End the Fed if you keep your silver buried. Use it to buy real things. But never sell it for Federal Reserve Notes!

Is there a smart phone app

Is there a smart phone app that would calculate the FRN price of a silver dime, quarter, etc in real time?

Droid Silver Calculator app

You can get a Android app right from the market by searching "Silver Calculator" or find the links at http://Whatisthiscoinworth.info

The droid app will help you convert pre 65 dimes quarters half's and dollars to FRN's, the app will also go the other way and allows you to type in a FRN amount and add a combination of coins to make up the price.

Want to End the Fed? theirs an App for that. http://WhatIsThisCoinWroth.info

That's a very good idea

You should develop it, I can't think of any calculators like that.

Yes, Use Coininflation.com

They have a relatively uptodate chart on every year, mint of U.S. Coins. So you can just look up say a 67 Kennedy half dollar or a 63 Franklin half dollar and do the current melt value. Of course add ten percent for coinage especially for dimes because it ain't free to coin money! Larger coins have a lower mintage cost as a relative percentage but all silver coin is currently bringing a coinage premium so don't trade yourself short at melt value. The coin is also a product not just a commodity.
Price your trades accordingly. If there isn't a specific idiot app for that maybe you should create one! The world is full of lazy fools who need a little help converting back to real money.

The Oracle

I saw a picture on Lew

I saw a picture on Lew Rockwell's site a few months ago that a gas station in Oregon advertise that they took silver dimes and quarters for gas payment. They had a billboard with the FRN price and the silver coin price.

I found the pic, but on another website.

http://www.blog.providentmetals.com/protecting-your-wealth/o...

Gas for a dime

$2.99 is melt value of a Mercury Dime
http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1916-1945-Silver-Mercury-Di...

Here are Gas prices
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/facts/2005/fcvt...

Silver:Gasoline Ratio for 100 years would be an interesting chart.

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Here's a conversion site....

I just paid $3.96 per gallon on the way home.. Translates to 13 cents. And that $20 I just spent at the store.. 68 cents in real money!

Quick easy conversion at

http://silverandgoldaremoney.com/

Free bumper stickers if you

Free bumper stickers if you buy gas with silver coins at one of our events:

I filled up my tank for $1.

The Change we're waiting for (silver dime picture),

more suggestions

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I keep a silver dime and a

I keep a silver dime and a 100 Trillion dollar Zimbabwean Reserve Note on me at all times to talk about economics. People probably think I'm nuts because I use props:(

Anyway I usually say that back in the old days a coke and candy bar might cost a dime and in terms of silver it still does. Some people don't even know that coins used to made from silver. There are a lot really good analogies (like the Broken Window by Bastiat) that we can use to express our message in a clear way. Ron Paul gave us another weapon in the Liberty arsenal and we should use this thread to expand that arsenal and discuss ways to bring these concepts out in real life.

I too carry around a silver

I too carry around a silver dime, but I have laminated it in a sleeve like the one in this picture.

http://whatisthiscoinworth.info/about/

Want to End the Fed? theirs an App for that. http://WhatIsThisCoinWroth.info

Here's another "prop".

I used to keep an old Series 1928 ten-dollar Federal Reserve Note in my wallet.
In the fine print it says, "Redeemable in lawful money at any Federal Reserve Bank".

I'd show that to people, and ask them, "If this is 'redeemable in lawful money', then what exactly is this note, if it's not lawful money?"

Usually, people would just get the deer-in-the-headlights look, and freeze up like a crashed computer, and walk off.

My GOSH! It just hit ME that

My GOSH! It just hit ME that 1964 was so long ago there must be a SLEW of people who do not know our currency was made and backed in silver! No wonder they do not want to take it half the time when they see it. WOW. All along I have seen gas in terms of a quarter, because when I was growing up gas was about a quarter or $.29 per gallon. A silver quarter would still buy a gallon of gas up until 2-3 years ago. Then it suddenly would buy 2 gallons, which was when I knew things were really getting bad.

Oh it gets better - I came up

Oh it gets better - I came up with the candy bar and coke analogy one night when I was working part time at a convenience store. Shortly after I started seeing prices in terms of silver and gold. Looking at decent family sedan - do a Gold/Dollar conversion on that! It took over my life to the point where when someone asks me to do a quick hustle job (fix a car, cut grass, etc...) I ask to be paid in silver. Eventually if I want "money" bad enough I'll take paper like I do at my 9 to 5, but at least initially I try to break it down in silver to see the reaction.

There is always a way to enlighten people to the message of sound money. Especially when it's their money.

Props for your props. Any

Props for your props. Any threads providing tools is excellent.

Where can I get a $100 Trillion Dollar Zimbabwean Reserve Note (ZRN)?

I work with a lot of pseudo-intellectuals that think they know economics. I would love to walk over to their office with a ZRN and a silver dime and say "you think you understand inflation, but do you really?," smile then walk away.

When they bring the props back to my office, I would engage them further.

You're crazy like a fox.

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I got mine on ebay before

I got mine on ebay before they got pricey but they run about 3-4 bucks now i think. I actually bought several and gave them to some fence sitters I knew with a note that said: Stop this from happening to our money, End the Fed! Could probably do the same with a pro RP message nowadays.

Just look up 100 trillion dollar bill on ebay or amazon, you'll find one!

I Sold a Zorkmid on eBay

It held up really well, selling for almost $200 FRNs.

You know it's pretty bad when a game token gains dollar value.

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Done, thanks again.

Done, thanks again.

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

Yes, gas for a dime or

Yes, gas for a dime or thereabout. I am speaking of a REAL dime, a tenth of a REAL dollar, not a paper federal reserve note.

Real money was removed from circulation by Gresham's Law which states that bad money drives out good. When a worthless fiat currency is issued backed by legal tender laws, people begin holding on to the the real money that has intrinsic value and does not inflate. Unfortunately, the masses, victims of public education and indoctrination by mainstream media believe the lies - "silver has become too valuable to use for coinage". The truth is, the federal reserve dollar has become worth too little to be able to continue to make coins out of silver. Copper-nickel is cheaper, so we'll be able to mint a lot more of them.

Eventually (1982), even the copper in the penny becomes more valuable than the penny itself. The solution, make pennies out of zinc with a thin copper wash. And there is a push to eliminate the penny from circulation since it is worth so little. At one time, the mint coined half cents. How have we allowed this to happen?

People should have realized that when silver became "too expensive" to use in coins, everything else had become too expensive, too. Was this a co-incidence? If everything else was become more expensive, doesn't it stand to reason that it is the dollar that is buying less?

It doesn't take an economist to understand that if you double the number of dollars in circulation, the price of everything is going to rise. Since there is no more to buy and more dollars in circulation, prices are going to rise.

This is why counterfeiting is illegal. It steals purchasing power for the general public and rewards the counterfeiter. But when governments and central banks do this, it's not called counterfeiting. It's called INFLATION. But the result is the same. Wealth is stolen.

When a currency is backed by gold (or silver) its value may fluctuate a little, but in the long run it will remain stable. But a currency that is backed by gold does not allow criminals within government and their counterparts in the central bank to steal. So, inflation becomes another tax - a hidden tax. Politicians and Federal Reserve spokesmen speak about trying to "control" inflation, but the truth is, the Federal Reserve is the engine of inflation. The Federal Reserve creates inflation when politicians want to spend more without raising taxes, or when raising taxes is not politically viable. They spend more than they take in in taxes, then they "monetize" the debt by selling treasury bonds to the Federal Reserve (which pay interests). The Federal Reserve purchases these interest bearing bonds with federal reserve notes which it creates out of nothing! The politicians receive the newly created "dollars", the Federal Reserve accrues interest on the treasury bonds, and the American people experience higher prices.

yeah, we know, butko

that's why it was a great line..

One of the best

comments of the debate. Good idea!

Gas still costs a dime?! What's going on around here?

That comment he made about

the silver dime paying for gas was great. It was a wow, moment and I think the highlight comment of the debate.

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We need change - silver

We need change - silver dimes, has been suggested in the chat room.

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"The change we've been waiting for"

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