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Stats for CNN Teaparty Debate 9/12/2011

From Dawn of the Weak: Once again it was the Rick Perry & Mitt Romney show. Hogging up nearly 14 minutes and nearly 11 minutes respectively, the nearest talking time was Congresswoman Michele Bachmann with 8:35. Largely due to so many attacks on him, CNN gave no shortage of time to Rick Perry for response, and in many cases CNN actually initiated the back 'n forth. The case will probably be made that this was for the sake of continuing story-lines currently in the news cycle, but it is quite odd that in continuing news cycles that when the Federal Reserve is brought up for discussion that Santorum, Cain, Bachmann, Perry and Romney were all questioned, leaving out the one person in politics who is actually responsible for bringing the Federal Reserve out of the closet of secrecy: Ron Paul.

Oddly, the feedback loop continues since the talk time was given to the perceived frontrunners which will likely result in showing their highlights and discussing how they dominated the debate while everyone else was strangely absent. Perhaps it is time for a more forum-oriented national discussion, maybe half in actual forum with extended time-allotments and the other half in direct debates. I, for one, would love an entire debate where the candidates moderate. Can't be worse than this.

Talking Time (mm:ss):
Perry 13:54
Mitt 10:56
Ron Paul 07:34
Bachmann 08:35
Newt 07:32
Herman 05:42
Santorum 07:06
Huntsman 07:50
Total 1:09:09

# Turns Talking:

Perry 18
Mitt 10
Ron Paul 7
Bachmann 8
Newt 5
Herman 6
Santorum 7
Huntsman 7

Avg Time Between Turns:
Perry 02:37
Mitt 04:40
Ron Paul 07:19
Bachmann 06:29
Newt 09:44
Herman 08:45
Santorum 06:30
Huntsman 07:19

More stats:
http://www.dawnoftheweak.com/2011/09/cnn-teaparty-debate-912...




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Notice how Romney, Perry and

Notice how Romney, Perry and Bachmann are at the top of all 3 categories? The major media websites also have debate polls that only have Romney, Perry and Bachmann on them. What a coincidence.

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The Canadian debate system is

The Canadian debate system is far superior.

For the first half, every question gets asked to every candidate. In the second half, every candidate gets a one-on-one with every other candidate.

However, there were only four contenders last election. In order for this system to work with eight, the one-on-one segment would probably have to be dropped, or the total number of questions reduced.

Great Debate

That's an awesome method, would love to see that done here.

I disagree because that would

I disagree because that would even the playing field and make things fair ...oh wait. lol.

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Explain why they treat their living legend, Newt, like this

He gets few questions and they often are rude questions.

Who exactly did Newt tick off?

I think Newt has been wanting to run for quite awhile, but the GOP leadership kept stringing him along. So Newt just decided to run anyway...so the GOP leadership had to stop him. That could be why his team abandoned him, why the media gives him rude questions, why they give him so little questions...etc.

I hope they piss Newt off so much, he decides to blow the lid on many things.

I'm sure he could take Perry down in a heartbeat, and seriously hurt the GOP leadership.

We just need to help turn him from the dark side.

I'm not a fan of Newt

Just look up "John Birch Society" and "newt" on youtube. You will find a 4-video series that goes really deep into his record/past/policies/associations.

Now, has Newt genuinely changed? I dunno. Maybe. I think he's smart enough to have known the correct positions all along. It just seemed to me that when he did something against the "right" thing, he was doing it on purpose for whatever agenda he had going or whoever people he was working for.

I hope that he pissed a lot of people off, and now he's decided to indirectly aid Ron Paul by being one of the other candidates saying things that make more sense than not. I have to be honest, he does have good lines in the debates, and his rhetoric isn't too bad. He's a natural enough speaker, for a polished/accomplished speaker, to pull off being half-genuine about what he's saying.

Still, his history makes him dodgey and untrustworthy. I really hope it's him deciding, "Okay, I'm going to blow the lid of this thing now that you no longer like me." kind of thing. I'm not sure what to think. Words are just words after all.

He backed Hilary Clinton

repeatedly.

YouTube channel

Ron has a YouTube channel, and some money from us, right? It's time to make his own event that bypasses the media schmucks.

Blessed are the peacemakers, but elected are the war hawks.

That is so strange. Other

That is so strange. Other than the 18 times perry talked, it really seemed, to me while watching it was a LOT more than Ron got, between Perry and Romney..RP actually was only 3 mins behind Romney, but it seemed he hardly got to say anything, to me..:)

Yep

Being in the loop helps a lot, makes it seem like you're really in the discussion even if your responses are quicker. Perception is apparently reality to the pundits. It's amazing to hear them say things like Rick Perry actually knocked it out of the park, as if they all watched MNF instead and picked up some memo of what to say during the post-debate analysis.

Well that is to be expected.

Well that is to be expected. When CNN was framing the debate with the leadoff descriptions of the candidates. Perry, Romney, and Bachman were in the top tier so to speak. With the rest of the candidates segregated to a lesser status.

The case will probably be

The case will probably be made that this was for the sake of continuing story-lines currently in the news cycle, but it is quite odd that in continuing news cycles that when the Federal Reserve is brought up for discussion that Santorum, Cain, Bachmann, Perry and Romney were all questioned, leaving out the one person in politics who is actually responsible for bringing the Federal Reserve out of the closet of secrecy: Ron Paul.

Yeah, you know, as much as I hated the last debate and thought this one was a huge improvement over all, I still kinda miss how he tried to inject himself in other topics a la Gingrich a bit. That definitely would have been useful for the Fed issue, but even still, it's pretty likely that everyone in the audience knows who was really responsible for bringing the Fed to the forefront of the economic discussions.

Never forget:

To disagree, one doesn't have to be disagreeable.


- Barry Goldwater

That's likely

I'm sure most people in that audience do know, since they're a little more in tune, but I'm wondering if the casual viewer does. I definitely would've loved for him to inject himself into the discussions though, a few times I thought he was going to, but such is our gentleman.

Viewers questions.

The problem with interjecting was they seemingly threw in viewer's questions right after they skipped Dr Paul. They did it with the FED question. They skipped him and went to a viewer question so it would appear rude if Ron didn't spend the whole time answering just them.

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Just one thing I noticed, but

Just one thing I noticed, but Cain isn't on your list

its under Herman

its under Herman

Yeah I noticed that right

Yeah I noticed that right after I posted that comment ha

Never mind, I was looking for

Never mind, I was looking for his last name and didn't notice that you posted his first name. Wow silly me.

Yeah

Out of everyone, he kinda got hosed the most. Not even 6 minutes of talking.

can't dispute the truth

thanks for accuracy.

send it to Wolf and ask him "what happened?"

thought this was going to be even?

And btw Wolf did you know your mic was on after the debate when you went up to your precious Perry and kissed his ass on air?

Please tell me:

What did Wolf say to Rick at the end?

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. -Galileo Galilei

Wolf Said

Pseudonym reported on his own post about this and described it.
"I was watching the debate online. Afterwards, the candidates and some people from the audience started mingling. Perry walked up to Wolf Blitzer, and Blitzer said, "I hope we can get together again soon. You did an excellent job, sir."
Pseudonym

Way to be obviously biased Wolf. Did you plant the amplified boos and Santorum comment too.

Thomas M. Gallion

Im glad you saw that too! I

Im glad you saw that too! I thought it was a bit......peculiar.

Great call!

Tweeted him:
@wolfblitzercnn Perry gets nearly 2x talk-time as most the others? C'mon, don't be FOX News and decide for us.

i kind of like perry in the

i kind of like perry in the hotseat. he really doesnt come across well to me. i think that the more he talks and the more he is challenged on his record the worse he looks to alot of people who want to like him

Agreed, to a point

I definitely like all the negative exposure it's bringing him. Especially all the slaps he took over the vaccinations. I would just like to see a little more disbursement of time, when one guy is nearly doubling others' talking time it kind of just reenforces the narratives the media pushes, IMO.

well done

:)

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Thanks!

I like numbers, and it gives me something to do while listening to these goons. :)