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Wow Ron Paul is REALLY winning.

What a turn around from 2007-8. Wow.

Everyone and I mean every candidate now in the debates agrees with Ron Paul on so many issues.

Huntsman we should get out of Afghanistan, Perry its time to go but leave some force there, and on it goes and stops at Santorum who is still reading from the same NeoCon playbook as Newt.

No, they all don't have the issues down precisely, but with time....

The ideas that Ron speaks up for are the ideas where they continue to go astray. He is like a good Shepard, and they are listening. They still don't like the ideas on foreign policy, but they know he's right about DEFENSE spending vs Military spending. He got them there and they all had nothing to say (except Santorum and maybe Newt, still a NeoCon).

Here is why they are listening. YOU and I.

I mean it. Its YOU and I. We are fiercely loyal. Ron Paul is polling at around 10% or so. That is a lot of GOP votes, and they NEED them if they are going to "win" as they define 'winning'. For us, its all about the right policies.

So, if YOU and I decide to go down with the Ron Paul ship like we did in 2008, hold our own Convention (Yea baby!) then THEY ALL KNOW that THEY cannot win and beat Barack Obama.

Its now really a game of chicken, whose going to blink?

We will hear, "You mean you would rather let Obama get another 4 years than vote for ________????"

That is why Newt is on the "We are all in this together to beat Obama" mantra.

This is why Rick Perry is doing his best to "be" a better Ron Paul (cough, cough).

SO, if YOU and I don't blink, stay loyal to the End, We will make the front runners twist in the wind to get our votes. They will try hard to find our ideas appealing, rephrased and repackaged to taste more digestible.

But who amoung them will say:

Abolish the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, Gitmo, and Bring all the Troops home?

Who? Who wants it? Who?

Come 2016, I can see all of them saying it... from Jeb Bush to Paul Ryan to Chris Christee and of course to Rand Paul.

What I would really like to see is some Presidential candidates in the Democratic party saying it in 2016. What our R3VOLution now needs is for a 'RonPaul-RedDemocrat' to come forth and start championing all of Ron's policy positions.

Yes, that will be the day, a great day for America...

In the meantime, I love all you Ron Paul Faithful, you really don't know how much I love you all. I can't wait until we have our own Convention again, either Inside the GOP (I doubt it) or outside. WE ARE MORE POWERFUL than the FAUX-Tea Party crowds, even though there are more of them.

WE ARE MORE POWERFUL. Our loyalty, our passion and our devotion to the Policies and Principles that Ron espouses for us make us one hard UNITED FIST in American Politics. We are a strong tight FIST rising up, a R3VOLutionary FIST that screams "FREEDOM" in every breath. They listen to us as we prepare to go to battle against Obama and the Democrats. They are scared, but they love our fire and they know they NEED us...

When the GOP rank n file come, and they will come and they will says, "We all need to stick together! We MUST defeat Barack Obama" our answer to that MUST BE THIS....

"I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, YOU FIGHT FOR SLAVERY. I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, YOU FIGHT FOR ONE CHAIN ON YOUR ANKLE. I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, FOR MY WIFE, FOR MY CHILDREN, FOR MY COUNTRY. I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, I FIGHT FOR RON PAUL."

http://youtu.be/ugR-Iyp-e1k

We must say to the Rick Santorums and the Newts and the Posers and the naive inside the GOP the following.

"I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM. ALL OF IT. I FIGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM. ALL OF IT. I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM BECAUSE I KNOW NOTHING MORE PRECIOUS TO ME THAN THAT, NOT FOOD, NOT WATER, NOT EVEN A SILLY "WIN" OVER YET ANOTHER PRESIDENT WHO DOES STUPID THINGS. I FIGHT IN THIS R3VOLution BECAUSE OF LOVE, MY LOVE FOR FREEDOM. MY ANCESTORS BLEED FOR IT, MY FATHER DIED FOR IT IN HER WARS, MY LIFE MEANS NOTHING! NOTHING WITHOUT FREEDOM..........

So you will have me Vote, Support, bend down and accept my CHAINS to PERRY because he wants a "Fair Tax", well I want NO TAX, I WANT FREEDOM FROM TAXES. I WANT IT FOR ME, I WANT IT FOR YOU, I WANT IT FOR THE COUNTRY THAT I LOVE MORE THAN I KNOW.

So you say you want me to vote, Support, bend down and compromise myself and accept the CHAINS for ROMNEY because he will "Fix the Economy". WELL I DON'T WANT A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO 'FIX' THE ECONOMY, I WANT HIM AND ALL OF CONGRESS TO GET OUT OF THE ECONOMY. I WANT FREEDOM FROM HIM AND ALL THAT HE WILL DO.

YOU say that I should Support, bend down and compromise myself and accept the CHAINS for BACHMAN because she will get rid of ONE BAD THING, OBAMACARE? I WANT FREEDOM FROM ALL OF GOVERNMENT CARE! I WANT FREEDOM.

MOST OF ALL, I WANT A SOCIETY THAT LOVES ITS NEIGHBORS THROUGH CHARITY, BEAUTIFUL SWEET THOUGHTFUL KINDNESS,a TENDERNESS that is ONLY FOUND in CHARITY. THAT IS THE KIND OF FREE COUNTRY THAT I WANT. FREE and CHARITABLE.

And if you say to me my republican friend, THAT the neighbors that YOU KNOW are not that charitable, WELL I SAY ITS BECAUSE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN FORCING THEM DOWN IN WELFARE AND WARFARE AND MOST OF ALL, DEBT AND DEPENDENCE. SET YOUR NEIGHBORS GOODNESS FREE!

I WANT FREEDOM, I WANT FREEDOM NOW, NOT LATER. I DON'T WANT IT IN SLICES OR TRADE OFFS OR IN STEPS. LISTEN TO ME CLEARLY, I WANT OUR BOYS HOME, PROTECTING THIS COUNTRY NOW! I WANT ALL MY FREEDOMS RESTORED. I WANT THE PATRIOT ACT GONE. I WANT THE MILITARY COMMISSIONS ACT GONE. I WANT THE SPENDING TO STOP AND I WANT MY MONEY TO BE FREE WHICH MEANS I WANT THE BANKING CARTEL CALLED THE FED TO END. I WANT FREE MARKET MONEY, WHICH MEANS GOLD AND SILVER. I WANT FREEDOM to just live, without force, without your precious government telling me, forcing me, requiring me, numbering me, and doing for me... I W A N T FREEDOM!!!

In peace and liberty,
Treg

* Of course the economy could hit the wall and collapse and then ... who knows, Ron may be very reluctantly putting his hand on the Bible and saying, "I swear to uphold and protect the Constitution"



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Ron Paul 2008

This is why I believe Ron Paul won the 2008 election. In the long run more and more people are being educated as to what the cause of liberty is. Once you go Austrian economics, sound monetary policy, civil liberties, and a non-interventionist foreign policy, you cannot go back. Ron has inspired millions to continue their education process and will educate others along the way. With this education, politicians like Perry, Romney and Bachmann are clearly seen for what they are corporate shills.

Freedom is NOT given, its TAKEN. The R3VOLution must take it.

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Bravo!!

Treg!! Honored to stand with you!!

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

Thanks!

We are A REAL POWER, and the GOP needs our votes.

They are scared that we'll hold our own convention and stay home.

Yes, we hold the power. 10% is how many Republican voters?

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because it worked for Obama

That's why they hijack his rhetoric.

They hijacked his rhetoric last time too...

They just plan on ignoring Ron Paul and saying what we want to hear until we come back into the Neocon fold.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN x1000000000000000

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THEIR RHETORIC!

Treg you have the right idea, we are forcing them to tell different lies. lol, i remember hearing perry say, " we have to audit and reform the FED" santorum said something along the lines of abolishing the :job creation" part of the FED but keeping the lending part (some two tier bullshit he was taking about) the details are all in the rhetoric, they are changing the perception of their plans to suit the emotional needs of their audiences these are nothing but word games, trying to prevent future paulites from emerging by as Paulesque questions to complex receive answers that seem to cater to a voters request BUT ALL IT IS is a word game a puzzle if you will "Monetary reform" as stated by perry is not the same as"sound money" professed by Dr. Paul, the avg genius in the "TEA payer ? I mean Tax payer org" of who gives a fuck ville doesn't even understands that the tea party is synonymous with the rebellion of taxes in general, but will accept some BS rhetoric that talks about "tax reform" they're not lying they will reform the tax code, but to the liking of the beneficiaries of their choice. NOT U AND I. and that poor idiot who stood up and asked, to a reception of applaus, "what percent of the dollar i earn do you think i should keep?" should not have been accepting bS answers like, blah blah blah, but look for the first fucking person o say, 100%! such a no brainer yet people fall into the rhetoric! also that "afghani woman i ut that in quotes because she was persian/iranian because her name is not of afghan origin asked some BS socialist women's agenda question "how are you going to ensure women's rights in afghanistan?" THE WOMEN OF AFGHANISTAN need to stand up and do it for themselves, the american model is freedom for both sexes all races and so on, so that question was a complete plant by cnn, this bitch wants more coercion against her own people? I DOUBT THE VALIDITY OF THE (1 question and (2 the integrity of the inquirer, this is a bullshit show with bullshit actors, about a bunch a bullshit. But the smirks on their faces tell it all, they cant believe the simpletons are buying it, just like they cant believe the simpletons can't make simple connections of morality to war and the initiation of these wars "booing paul" for making sense, calling out, and trying to reform their ignorance. were in quite the situation. I dont think we can depend on RP we need to Fuck some shit up locally in our communities as far as debunking pop-myths, telling others how we profit from leaving the dollar based assets and showing, demonstrating how they can improve their ives the same way we have through the example of Paul, in order for them to wake up! help them help themselves point them in the right direction on personal finances then reveal the source of your knowledge , which is paul and his ideologies, this is the way! effecting lives without having to wait for our sensei to reach office, as students and disciples displaying and spreading not just the wisdom, but the practice and results of the message.

levonavakian - Now that you explain it, I think you are right

That "afgan" woman was yet another CNN plant. They did this plant thing in the years past, and they did it again.

I want to point out one thing about RON PAUL's response to the question: "A 30 year old gets into an accident with no insurance.."

Ron Paul SHOULD HAVE SAID, ...

"Wolf, let me ask you this, what county did that 30 year old American get in an accident? I ask you that because County Hospitals and Charitable Hospitals will save that boys life, just as they do today, each and every day. People pay their county property taxes and fund their own hospital system. Keeping medicine decentralized, locally funded and competitive and even charitable, is the best way forward. We need a chain of 700 CHARITABLE HOSPITALS spread out across the United States, not a chain of 700 military bases spread out across 300 countries. Listen Wolf, ANY national health insurance program from the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is NOT a Constitutional function of the Federal Government, period. We are spending billions and billions on military bases around the world, just imagine if those monies stayed in each County! The each county could build its own charitable hospital!"

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That's The Spirit ...

... Like Treg's post, frame of mind is a good start.

Politics is a game. Make sport of it. You both are right to remind we each need to stop taking these clowns seriously.

Make sport of it all if you find it fun -- but get down to business.

Vote with every action every day. These fools will not control your decisions if you don't let them.

Your actions, inspired by your decisions to maintain freedom, influenced by your unyielding, independent frame of mind, will influence their decisions. What's more important -- Every day, the decisions of such fools will have less effect upon your life.

OMG TREG YOUR ON A ROLL

dont stop baby im crying for you, for FREEEEEDOOMMM!

I am a human becoming, help me to become.

Freedom Baby! Scream it, yell it, and Say THATS WHY!

Why do we want to end the Fed? FREEDOM BABY!

Why do we want to bring all our troops home? FREEDOM BABY!

Why do we want to abolish the income tax? FREEDOM BABY!

Why do we want to end the Drug War? FREEDOM BABY!

Why do we want to end corporate welfare? FREEDOM BABY!

Freedom Works! FREEDOM BABY!

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You nailed it, Treg!

I was having the post-debate Ron Paul blues, and your post snapped me out of it! Freedom!!

*****The Federal Reserve is neither.*****

Freedom! FREEDOM!!!! Scream it brother, FREEDOM!

Every time I hit the bump with these GOP NeoConned brain farts, I just say...

Am I the only one who wants FREEDOM? You want to take one ankle chain off -- I MUST HAVE BOTH OFF and I MUST HAVE BOTH OFF NOW! FREEDOM! You say I should vote Herman Cain? 9 - 9 - 9 ??? How about 0 - 0 - 0!!! I say Freedom man!

NeoConned --- "Well come on now, you are not saying we don't need a government, right?"

Oh i am saying we need a government and I am saying we need the government to do just 3 legit functions: POLICE, COURTS and NATIONAL DEFENSE.

NeoConned --- "Well then we've got to have taxes, right?"

SAYS WHO? Have you given it ANY THOUGHT as to how to fund a Constitutional government without compulsory taxes?

NeoConned ---"No but I think you're about to tell me"

See, if you are for FREEDOM you'd spend some time thinking about that and not about how to defeat Obama. If you are for FREEDOM you'd realize you must get all your contracts PRE-Paid, thus giving you the right to enter a court, have police protection and national defense. A simple system of prepaying for a contract would fund the whole government. You and another have a contract, want it admissible in court, then take it to them and pay the fee. Register your contract. Its that simple. If ever there is a dispute, then the COURT and Police are for "free". If not, well then move on. And that is how a free government is paid for without Taxation. Its one way, there are many others."

NeoConned --- "So Freedom?"

NO, its FREEEEDOOOMM Baby and until we all get it, we won't be gettin it... so spread the love for FREEEDOOOMM. Pass it on. Don't accept these small ankle chains, 9-9-9, demand full on FREEDOM.

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This is part of their strategy

They are diluting his messages between all the other candidates to reduce the attention he might get from them. It's so frustrating to watch. I was outraged through the entire debate! Especially when they didn't give him a chance to respond to the Fed question! He was the ORIGINATOR of the failed bill to AUDIT THE FED! sorry just venting, I am seriously considering channeling this rage into a Veterans testimony for him but I'm not too Charismatic lol.

"I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove."

its very frustrating to watch

its very frustrating to watch them use his exact words from previous debates or speeches as their own.

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Yes, really. But then. . .

this is MUCH much better than being totally ignored :-)

Exactly. The other candidates don't believe what they say.

"They are diluting his messages between all the other candidates to reduce the attention he might get...."

This is what is hurting on domestic policy. But Dr. Paul even poked fun at all the other candidates when he said they would not parrot his foreign policy.

If any one would try to find any of these candidates, besides Paul, talking about the FED sooner than six months ago it would be highly unusual.

Bachmann may be an exception but only because she and Palin have been co-opting Dr. Paul's domestic policy to control the Tea Party. All Bachmann sounds like is Bachmann cheerleader.

Channel it brother!

Do it, put it out there ... do it for FREEDOM!

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Great post! Would a "Ron Paul

Great post!

Would a "Ron Paul red democrat" do anything different than Ron Paul? I can't think of why.. wouldn't it be great to see parties collapse?

"You must be frank with the world; frankness is the child of honesty and courage...Never do anything wrong to make a friend or keep one...Above all do not appear to others what you are not" - Robert E. Lee, CSA

Different? In regards to

Different? In regards to what? On the economy, they'd certainly do a lot different. On foreign policy, they'd be reluctant to end foreign aid or our involvement with organizations like the UN. On social issues, they'd probably support pro-choice policies, federal legalization of gay marriage (rather than leaving it at the state level and supporting private contract-based marriage there), plus they'd support things like antidiscrimination laws and affirmative action that may seem well-intentioned, but are still anti-liberty. However, there are a lot of things we can agree on, and there are a lot of things we can agree on with mainstream Republicans. We need to convert as many people as possible.

Now you're thinking.

Check around your state, find the right opening in any democratic race for Congress, and wear the RON PAUL DEMOCRAT label proudly. Don't change one thing. Yes, emphasis other areas, but don't change the brand, its been won with blood.

In peace and liberty,
Treg

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Excellent Post

This post deserves major props. It is brilliantly written, conceived and articulated. Well done sir. We are in this to win, they know it, we know it and we have them right where we want them. Ron Paul 2012!!!

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I agree

Thanks for the bump

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Dr. Ron Paul WILL become president in 2012!!!

What do I mean by Dr. Ron Paul will become president in 2012? Just that. This time around things are very different,and it's a do or die situation for the country. In 2008, the country was still gangrenously plodding along and Obama came and screwed it some more to the point where our mere survival is at stake now. When Dr. Paul announced that he was running for the presidency in May 2011, I knew his time had come. We have some work to do. But, given all that Dr. Paul will actually win the nomination and the general election. I know that most of you don't even believe this will happen, but that's your prerogative.

I believe in the fight.... I believe in Freedom...

And I believe in you.

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