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Eight Amish Guys Jailed For Refusing To Attach Orange Safety Triangles To Their Buggies

Government jails them for not having orange triangles on their buggies, but makes sure to provide special jail jumpsuits that aren't orange.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/fil...

Here are the booking photos of the eight members of an Amish sect who were ordered jailed by a Kentucky judge after they refused to pay fines for failing to affix orange safety triangles to their horse-drawn buggies.

The men, who were booked Monday night into the Graves County jail, refused to pay the fines on grounds that their religion bars them from wearing or displaying bright colors. Jailed for misdemeanor contempt of court, the inmates were provided dark-colored jumpsuits in place of the standard issue orange coveralls.

The defendants were hit with a range of time in the county lockup (between three and 10 days) by District Court Judge Deborah Hawkins Crook.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/amish-eight-mug-shots-76...

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2 of those guys are 6 feet 8?

2 of those guys are 6 feet 8? All of them are over 6 foot 3?

EDIT: I'm dumb.

do i have the right

to see them at night?
you don't often see amish buggies and street lights at the same time. at least in pa.
you are free to do as you please providing you don't harm others.
are we suggesting i have the right to drive my truck sans lighting?

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You have "rights" backwards

Forcing someone else to do something is not a right. You have a right to put good headlights on your vehicle and drive carefully, but you don't have a right to tell others what to do.

I don't think they are trying to get killed. It's probably more a case of drivers not being careful, and hitting them every once in a while, causing people to put the entire blame on them because they are the minority. Who speaks for the Amish, I don't think any of them have posted to this thread, and I doubt they participate much in government.

Do Amish folks vote?

If so, maybe Ron Paul ought to pay a visit.

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The biggest offence I see here

is the fact they took their photo. It is against their religion to be photographed. This is against their right to exercise their religious beliefs. It is the same as forcing a Muslim to pray standing up, or a Jew to eat pork, or forcing a christian to drink alcohol. The state does not require them to have a photo on their drivers license, but can force them to do it when arrested.

My peoples!!!

distant distant kin really.

Nothing but respect for them all though. Anyone who wants to be left alone to raise their communities as they see fit and never ask for a hand out is fine in my book.

I think it was Benjamin Franklin that said

the law is an ass. In this case I have to agree.

It depends on the kind of law

I wouldn't be so frank about that. There is a form of law that defines your liberty, negative law, and one that defines our lack of freedom, positive law.

Now this is a case of a positive law going against the negative law in form of the 1st amentment that secures religious freedom.
This positive law bannes now in a illegimitat mannor the Amis right to act within their religious believes as long as their action doesn't actively harm 3rd parties.
So it is a classical case for the "good" intentions of a positive law that turns out bad once it applied in real life, if you want to stick with Kant. A problem long known with positive laws, yet they are so tempting as they provide the power to interfer with personal sovereignty and force them act as you wish as legislator of these laws.
This problem is the core problem in Bastiat's "The Law" - it really goes bad to a lack of education of everage Joe and the lack selfrestrain of the political class, as the demos isn't capable of that. Guess we can blaim it on public education, the ruling elite has no interest in a interlectual citizens that might catch them red handed in our sovereignty as indidviduals.

Law does not define liberty

Liberty exists when law does and liberty exists when law does not.

Therefore, liberty preexists law.

The 1st amendment does not secure anything. Unalienable means that they cannot be granted or taken away and if they were never granted, they cannot come from law.

Rights vs Privilege

Law grants privileges. Liberty grants rights.

persecution . . .

outrageous--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

20 million illegal aliens but they jail the 8 Amish guys

...

Oh man!

The Amish Eight.

Americas newest terrorist group, they are charged with refusing to attach triangular orange safety plates to their buggies. Pure, unadulterated evil. Thank God for Janet Napolitano.

Government's biggest threat is people who will not comply

Who refuse to follow orders.

jailed for failing to pay...

At the risk of bringing up facts... the article says they were jailed for failing (refusing, actually) to pay fines.

Similarly, people aren't jailed for parking violations, but can eventually have a bench warrant issued if the tickets don't get paid.

Just sayin...

I'm voting for Peace.

Refusing to be coerced into

Refusing to be coerced into wearing an orange triangle and refusing to pay the fine if you don't are exactly the same thing. Your rights are being infringed if you must pay up in order to excercise them.

Government action is violence

This is a perfect example of how government intervention is violent. I'm not saying it's not necessary, but this is why it should be as minimal as possible. If you don't agree with what the government is requiring, at the very least you are fined. If you refuse to pay the fine, you are jailed. If you refuse to be arrested? They will use physical force, even lethal if necessary.

Which poses a greater threat to Americans? Amish with tape instead of triangles, or a government that would jail or imprison peaceful citizens over such laws.

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These men just want to be left alone.

They are the faces of Liberty. They ask for nothing, and they take care of themselves. If they were moved to be politically motivated, they would no doubt be libertarian.

For Richer or Poorer

They USED to not be able to wear bright colors, until Kirstie Alley told them it was okay.

Too funny

Haha!
Really though, this is not good. It's disrespectful on so many levels. I agree that they should have paid... But why does the gov feel compelled to force these people to put a triangle on their buggy? If this is a safety thing, maybe they should reduce speed limits for their community. I have seen these buggies, and they do have lights on them. It's their community, and the government aren't taking care of them properly.

You can tell they're guilty by their beards!

I hope they don't read this (jk).

Maybe they can be another voting block for Ron Paul. Too bad they can't help the phone bank to call for support. Nor can they tweet to the Amish community or use facebook.

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

I've sold stuff to Amish,

I've sold stuff to Amish, they visit our screwed up world as long as they keep interaction completely separate, separate room/building for phone/fax/internet. And some Amish leave and do join our screwed up world, so I think there IS a voting block there. Do the Amish even vote?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Don't you believe that.

They have the latest technology,cell phones and computers and all the latest. They are not backwards like most think they are. They simply have a lifestyle their own. Don't think that they do not know the law. They, like the rich, know the loopholes.
Their lifestyle is backwards but not their brains. They are mostly self employed and self sufficiant. ARE YOU?

I don't think the stricter Amish have cell phones, do they?

I know that the more moderate Mennonites do, but--

the strict Amish can use propane; perhaps they can use batteries, too; this is something I need to find out; I live near quite a few Amish, and I could find out, if I ask cautiously.

They are intelligent people; they are not primitive; they just want to live simply--

however, they are dependent upon the 'economy' if the economy suffers, so do they. They are more self-reliant than most other Americans, but they still need non-Amish. Spouse and I do business with Amish.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I live around them

and do not have a problem with them.
Usually they are very nice to talk to. They respect others but keep within their own circles.
I see police cars without lables. what's the Diff? Safety First you know.

FFS!

Some people can't take a joke!

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Yes I got your joke, neet.

I was not addressing your comment.
After all they did protect Harrison Ford. HA!!!

They are a good example of an American long gone, almost.

I have appreciated your comments on this subject. Thanks.

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