Tony Bennett on Stern - the Reason for 9/11 and being a PacifistSubmitted by Lao Tzua on Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:19
Here is the Youtube link for Part Two of Howard Stern's interview with Tony Bennett - posted on Youtube on 9/19/11- please listen for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7nTy_jhQ8E&feature=related
For those of you who would rather read than listen, here is a transcript - to the best of my ability - from about 3:45 into the clip.
TONY BENETT: Everybody that lives in America loves America - rightfully so. And so did the rest of the world - until recently. We never did illegal things.
HOWARD STERN: Right.
BENNETT: You know, to start a war in Iraq was a tremendous, tremendous mistake internationally.
STERN: What about Afghanistan - How do you stop terrorism? What do you do with these guys? I mean, what do you do?
BENNETT: You just eliminate all weapons.
STERN: But how are you going to do that?
BENNETT: You make it all illegal.
STERN: How are you going to get rid of all the weapons? You're probably going to go in and take it from them?
BENNETT: Just melt them. Make things out of them.....
BENNETT: We're intellectual cavemen.
STERN: Right... Listen, you're right - but what do you do about the terrorists who blew up the World Trade Center?
BENNETT: But who are the terrorists? Are we the terrorists? Or are they the terrorists? Two wrongs don't make a right.
STERN: They're the ones who started it with that plane flying into the World Trade Center. What do you do?
BENNETT: I don't know about that.
STERN: You don't think so?
BENNETT: Well, that's another story...
STERN: Are you one of those conspiracy guys who thinks they didn't fly the plane in - that maybe the government started it?
BENNETT: No, no - they flew the plane in. But we caused it.
STERN: Why? Because....
BENNETT: Because we were bombing them, and they told us to stop... They said - What are you doing? - and they came on stronger. And they, they - Come on, we're gong to have to retaliate. No, no, no - they said - give them four times as much.
STERN: So, sometimes it's not clear.
BENNETT: So sometimes it's not clear.
In Part One of the interview, Tony Bennett speaks very powerfully and movingly about his experience in war and how it led him to become a pacifist. Here is the link to Part One: