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THEY are coming after your unvaccinated kids (A compilation)

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Here is yet another compilation I felt compelled to begin. Remember, the following list will grow larger and larger, unfortunately:

Tougher laws considered for unvaccinated students

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700180628/Tougher-laws-co...

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Lawmakers say they will consider tougher requirements for schools that have been defying state law by letting students who cannot prove they have had the whooping cough vaccine remain on campus.

Students being allowed to attend school without the inoculation put the rest of the community at risk, said state Assemblyman Dan Logue, R-Chico, vice chairman of his chamber's health committee.

"Due to the health risk, we might look at some type of legislation to encourage schools," he said. "The bottom line is we need to find more teeth than the mandate.

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Anti-vaccine movement endangers entire populations, not just individuals

http://www.medcitynews.com/2011/09/anti-vaccine-movement-end...

"Dr. Poland suggests that vaccine denialist propaganda does a public disservice, and recommends that it may be time to consider legislating vaccinations for the public good, and to protect vulnerable members of the population. He notes that while anti-vaccination movements call for more research, continued investigation into vaccine safety ’ particularly with regard to the well-established MMR vaccine ’ represents a misallocation of limited research dollars, because of the incredible scientific consensus regarding vaccine safety."

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Parents home-school to avoid vaccinating their kids

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-10-21-home-school-v...

"Lance Rodewald, director of the CDC's Immunization Services Division, says the measles outbreaks show a problem with state policies allowing home-schooled children to escape vaccines."

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Utah state legislator wants to impose fees on the unvaccinated

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51831839-78/outbreak-measl...

Instead of an outright ban on personal exemptions, Moss is considering imposing a fee on families who choose to skip shots. The fee — similar to taxes on other health nuisances, such as cigarettes — could be used to fund outbreak containment efforts, she said.

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Not vaccinated? Not acceptable: David Ropeik

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2011/07/not_vacci...

There are many potential solutions, each fraught with pros and cons and details that require careful thought and open democratic discussion.

• Perhaps it should be harder to opt out of vaccination. (Twenty-one states allow parents to decline vaccination of their children simply for "philosophical" reasons; 48 allow a religious exemption, but few demand documentation from parents to support claims that their faith precludes vaccination.)

• Perhaps there should be higher health care and insurance costs for unvaccinated people, or "healthy behavior" discounts for people who do get vaccinated, paid for from what society saves by avoiding the spread of disease.

• There could be restrictions on the community and social activities in which unvaccinated people can participate, like lengthy school trips for kids, etc.

This is not about creating more government to intrude further into our lives. This is about calling on government to do what it's there for in the first place: to protect us from the actions of others when, as individuals, we can't protect ourselves. It is appropriate, and urgent, that we act to protect public health from those whose choices about vaccines are putting the rest of us at risk: We make them stop.

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AMA POSITION - H-440.970 Religious Exemptions from Immunizations

Statement by these crooks (which has since been removed from their site):

Since religious/philosophic exemptions from immunizations endanger not only the health of the unvaccinated individual, but also the health of those in his or her group and the community at large, the AMA (1) encourages state medical associations to seek removal of such exemptions in statutes requiring mandatory immunizations; (2) encourages physicians and state and local medical associations to work with public health officials to inform religious groups and others who object to immunizations of the benefits of vaccinations and the risk to their own health and that of the general public if they refuse to accept them; and (3) encourages state and local medical associations to work with public health officials to develop contingency plans for controlling outbreaks in exempt populations and to intensify efforts to achieve high immunization rates in communities where groups having religious exemptions from immunizations reside. (CSA Rep. B, A-87; Reaffirmed: Sunset Report, I-97; Reaffirmed: CSAPH Rep. 3, A-07)

Here's a screenshot of this AMA policy from their website:

http://i565.photobucket.com/albums/ss99/LakelandRainBarrels/...

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Public Health Risk Seen as Parents Reject Vaccines

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080321...

....the number of exemptions worries many health officials and experts. They say that vaccines have saved countless lives, and that personal-belief exemptions are potentially dangerous and bad public policy because they are not based on sound science.

“If you have clusters of exemptions, you increase the risk of exposing everyone in the community,” said Dr. Omer, who has extensively studied disease outbreaks and vaccines.

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Here's a video commentary I just found by Paul Offit which will send chills down everyone's spine and make your brain hurt with his "logic" of how he intends to discredit vaccine exemptions:

'Vaccine Exemptions'? Call Them What They Really Are

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/768746

‎(Quote): "A second way people can exempt themselves from vaccines are the so-called philosophical or personal belief exemptions. Twenty states allow that kind of exemption. I would argue that these exemptions are misnamed. First of all, th
e notion that vaccines are a "philosophy" is inaccurate. Philo means love, sophos means wisdom. Exactly where is the wisdom in saying that it is better not to get vaccines than to get them?"

‎(Quote): "The third way one can exempt oneself from vaccines are so-called religious exemptions. Forty-eight states have them. I would argue this also does not make a lot of sense. The first vaccine was Edward Jenner's vaccine in 1796. The
New Testament was written around 100 AD, the Old Testament between 1400 and 400 BC, and the Qur'an around 600 AD. All those texts were written well before vaccines existed, so not surprisingly, they never mention or predict them. I also would argue that it does not make sense to say, "It is my religious belief that a child not get a vaccine," and therefore a child should be left with less protection under the law. The 14th Amendment of the Constitution, the so-called Equal Protection Clause, states that a child or anyone should be equally protected and implies that this is independent of a parent's belief system. If the child is exposed to harm, that child should have equal protection. For example, if a Jehovah's Witness parent says, "I do not want my child to get a lifesaving blood transfusion," the parent does not have the freedom of religion to practice that because of the 14th Amendment."

(Quote): "I think we should call these exemptions what they really are. Let's not sugarcoat this choice. We should call them the "I do not want to get vaccines because I have read a lot of scary things about vaccines and I am afraid that t
hey might hurt my child, and I am not so sure I believe in pharmaceutical companies or the medical establishment or the government, so I do not want my child to get them" vaccine exemption. That would be, I think, more honest."

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Out of Australia:

No vaccine, no school, says AMA chief

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/no-vaccine-no-s...

(Excerpts): Unvaccinated children should be held back from school and groups spreading anti-vaccination messages should be punished, according to the federal president of the Australian Medical Association.

Dr Steve Hambleton said a report released on Thursday detailing national immunisation rates raised concerns about parents in certain areas not following vaccination guidelines.

''We should certainly make it difficult for [unvaccinated] children to get to school,'' said Steve Hambleton, responding to new national statistics on immunisation rates.

''And we should certainly have plans available to send all those children home if there are outbreaks.''

''These are parents who have got information, good information available and yet they are not vaccinating their children,'' Dr Hambleton said. ( oh so true, but not how HE meant it)

There is also a worrying undercurrent of vaccine objectors who believe conspiracy websites and reject public health guidelines.

These vaccine objectors ''should be ashamed of themselves'' for spreading misinformation and should be sanctioned, Dr Hambleton said.

''We need to look at the groups providing those anti-vaccination messages and we need to make sure we stop them . . . They are putting the community in danger.''

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Editorial: Time to stop keeping kids immune from jab

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/time-to-stop-keeping-kids-i...

(Excerpts): In the past the campaigns have concentrated on making vaccination compulsory, but unfortunately successive governments have not had the stomach for it. Our ‘‘ No Jab, No Play’’ campaign is focusing its effort on specific initiatives to encourage more parents to vaccinate.

We are calling on the state government to allow childcare centres to ban children who have not been vaccinated. And we are calling on the federal government to withhold the childcare rebate from every parent who fails to immunise.

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Bioethicist says parents who don't vaccinate should face liability for consequences

http://www.pri.org/stories/health/bioethicist-says-parents-w...

(Excerpt):

A doctor and medical ethicist (Art Caplan)says parents who choose not to vaccinate their children should be liable, in the form of lawsuits, for anyone who becomes sick from their child. He argues parents should have the right to not vaccinate, but they should also expect to be sued if their child gets someone else sick.

"If your kid gets the measles, and remember public health officials are getting very very good at tracing outbreaks to their source, and makes my kid sick (can happen since vaccine is not 100 percent effective), my newborn baby die (newborns can’t benefit from vaccines) or my wife miscarry (fetuses are at especially high risk), then shouldn’t I be able to sue you for the harm you have done?"

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I'm getting calls almost every night

I'm pretty sure I did the tdap (or whatever it's called) dance in the past. But I filled out a form stating I don't want my kid getting these shots on religious belief. I keep getting harassed.

I refused the tetanus booster. Why make your kid all sore for nothing. If he steps on a rusty nail I will bring him in.

Now it's this tdap thingy. I do vaccinate him for some stuff, because there are immigrants abound who carry some diseases. I don't want my son to get whooping cough but I haven't heard of one single case in the area. And it's not my vaccine. I have no clue to contents of it and I never made it myself.

Apparently (my son just said this) if he doesn't get vaccinated he won't get a "schedule" for school.

I'm all for healthy kids. But forcing an unknown substance into their body is tyranny. That's not freedom.

It's the people

calling under guise of a survey? I've heard of others getting this call and they are really hard to get rid of, but you can eventually.

I've only heard complaints from non-vaxers, but it may be everyone's surveyed, but only the non-vaxers voice their concerns.

Defend Liberty!

DFarrel - still there?

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I'd love to be able to help you in this matter.

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www.vaclib.org

Overwhelming who get whooping cough are vaccinated

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DFarrel,

You may want to take a look at the following compilation I have put together using mainstream news stories and studies which PROVE the whooping cough vaccine is actually causing the bacteria to mutate and that the overwhelming majority of cases are in the vaccinated:

http://www.facebook.com/WhoopingCoughVaccineIsMakingMattersW...

Or

http://www.dailypaul.com/167931/a-collection-of-mainstream-n...

And regarding the school not allowing your child in due to lack-of-vaccination, can you please tell me the state in which you reside and I will prove to you that they are bullying you with no legal grounds.

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ANOTHER DEMON STEPS FORWARD !!!!

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Bioethicist says parents who don't vaccinate should face liability for consequences

http://www.pri.org/stories/health/bioethicist-says-parents-w...

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A doctor and medical ethicist (Art Caplan)says parents who choose not to vaccinate their children should be liable, in the form of lawsuits, for anyone who becomes sick from their child. He argues parents should have the right to not vaccinate, but they should also expect to be sued if their child gets someone else sick.

"If your kid gets the measles, and remember public health officials are getting very very good at tracing outbreaks to their source, and makes my kid sick (can happen since vaccine is not 100 percent effective), my newborn baby die (newborns can’t benefit from vaccines) or my wife miscarry (fetuses are at especially high risk), then shouldn’t I be able to sue you for the harm you have done?"

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www.vaclib.org

Scary new editorial out of Australia

Editorial: Time to stop keeping kids immune from jab

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/time-to-stop-keeping-kids-i...

(Excerpts): In the past the campaigns have concentrated on making vaccination compulsory, but unfortunately successive governments have not had the stomach for it. Our ‘‘ No Jab, No Play’’ campaign is focusing its effort on specific initiatives to encourage more parents to vaccinate.

We are calling on the state government to allow childcare centres to ban children who have not been vaccinated. And we are calling on the federal government to withhold the childcare rebate from every parent who fails to immunise.

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www.vaclib.org

This has been posted before,

but is worth revisiting and passing on.
http://www.dailypaul.com/265330/the-best-vaccine-video-ive-seen

Vaccine Legislative Update: The Vaccine Police State is Knocking

There are six vaccine bills in each of 30+ states that now either require more vaccines for more people or further restrict our right to refuse them.

The National Vaccine Information Center’s Advocacy Portal (http://www.nvicadvocacy.org) lists current vaccine bills throughout the U.S. Right now, it lists from one to six vaccine bills in each of 30+ states. Most of these bills, if passed into law, would further expand an already out-of-control pharmaceutical vaccine agenda that seeks to require more vaccines for more people while further restricting our right to refuse them. Join the Portal NOW to help defend vaccine freedom of choice!

Here’s a quick look at the authoritarian agendas being promoted by current bills around the U.S.:

1. Flu vaccines (6 states):
A) Required for healthcare workers: CT, IL, MO
B) Required for the elderly: CT
C) Must be offered to healthcare workers: GA, NJ
D) Must adopt a flu vaccine policy: CT
E) Health department may offer to kids in schools: PA

http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/vaccine-legislative-update-...

Hello good people

After reading the content and a lot of the comments on this Daily Paul topic I just have to say that a lot of you good people need to study more on this subject. The constant suggestions that have been given to us for a long time about how good vaccine's are need to be questioned.

May I suggest a couple of sites that are loaded with the truth about vaccines.

National Vaccine Information Center
http://www.nvic.org/

Mercola.com use the search feature and explore.

Become more informed everyday.

PS. No vaccine allowed

Gary Null re vaccines: "A half truth is a full lie."

From 2009 hearings in NYS re autism & other vaccine/drug issues:
Part I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3XlJB7J5-o
Part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5OuzB9L48
Part III http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAgWO2yq1k8

Just a few key findings of many:
...Vaccine complications that were reported were for when reactions occurred within a short time frame, when it's known among professionals that many people have a delayed reaction.
...Severe complications to thousands in the military administered vaccines are not included in long-term studies as per FDA exemption - nor officially reported anywhere.
...Over 50% of the people sitting on the FDA and CDC vaccine advisory boards were from vaccine manufacturers.
...So-called placebos contained some of the same ingredients as the vaccines themselves (e.g., thimerosal, mercury, and formaldehyde), rendering them "not placebos" and therefore any comparisons bogus.
...Pregnant women who developed fevers after being vaccinated were excluded from trials(!)
...The #1 cause of death in America is American medicine, with more deaths caused by medical error than heart attacks, strokes, or cancer, plus more injuries than other causes (based on statistics that only covered when adverse reactions occurred in an institutionalized setting, not at home) - more casualties in ONE YEAR than in WWI and WWII combined. His point was, we acknowledge the good that medicine does, but not also the life it takes, whether from greed, arrogance, or ignorance; and given the trust issue raised, there is reason for the public to expect bona-fide scientific studies to show that vaccines even work and what the actual risks are... and for us to have a choice in the matter, regardless.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

AMA????

Who would trust this fascist created group?
Just watch on youtube: "cancer the forbidden cures"
that should shed some light on this nazi org.

NOSHEEPLE

Medical vaccine exemptions for children not always justified

Some children are receiving medical exemptions from kindergarten-entry immunization requirements for inappropriate reasons, according to a new study. That could make youths who are too young or too sick to be immunized more susceptible to potentially fatal vaccine-preventable diseases, including measles and pertussis.

“The appropriate use of medical exemptions is important to maintaining sufficient herd immunity,” said Saad B. Omer, PhD, MPH, senior investigator of the study, published online Aug. 29 in The Journal of Infectious Diseases.

http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2012/09/10/hlsa0910.htm

Scott, hopefully you are posting this.............

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.....in opposition to it as I have done with all the other ones above.

You ARE against the state taking away our exemptions, correct?

Just making sure.:)

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You are correct

I have unvaccinated children and am very concerned about this.

AS YOU SHOULD BE !!!

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These evil-doers never sleep.

They have ENDLESS funds to assault the public in so many areas of our lives.

WHERE IS ALL THIS MONEY AND RESOURCES COMING FROM !?!?!?!?

Obviously it's debt-driven, but my god, they must have 3/4 of the population working non-stop to enslave the remaining 1/4 of the population.

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Must-read article by the Dr. Suzanne Humphries

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Here's a must-read article by Dr. Suzanne Humphries in response to the horrifying video rant that Paul Offit has just released.

In Vaccines We Trust? Paul Offit threatens religious and philosophical vaccine exemptions. A response by Suzanne Humphries, MD

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/?p=3709&preview=true

And in case anyone hasn't seen the sickening rant Paul Offit just went on regarding vaccine exemptions, here it is:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/768746

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Bill Gates' "Anti-vaccine surveillance and alert system"

"Seth Kalichman of the http://www.uconn.edu/ in the USA will establish an Internet-based global monitoring and rapid alert system for finding, analysing, and counteracting communication campaigns containing misinformation regarding vaccines to support global immunization efforts."

That's one of the proposals that was apparently awarded $100,000 by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to "inspire supply chain innovation" and "optimize immunization systems." (A total of $1.7 million was awarded.) http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08...

Thanks for the link to Humphries' article and this post, America Loves R...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Paul Offit UNCHAINED !!!!!

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Here's a video commentary I just found by Paul Offit which will send chills down everyone's spine and make your brain hurt with his "logic" of how he intends to discredit vaccine exemptions:

'Vaccine Exemptions'? Call Them What They Really Are

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/768746

‎(Quote): "A second way people can exempt themselves from vaccines are the so-called philosophical or personal belief exemptions. Twenty states allow that kind of exemption. I would argue that these exemptions are misnamed. First of all, th
e notion that vaccines are a "philosophy" is inaccurate. Philo means love, sophos means wisdom. Exactly where is the wisdom in saying that it is better not to get vaccines than to get them?"

‎(Quote): "The third way one can exempt oneself from vaccines are so-called religious exemptions. Forty-eight states have them. I would argue this also does not make a lot of sense. The first vaccine was Edward Jenner's vaccine in 1796. The
New Testament was written around 100 AD, the Old Testament between 1400 and 400 BC, and the Qur'an around 600 AD. All those texts were written well before vaccines existed, so not surprisingly, they never mention or predict them. I also would argue that it does not make sense to say, "It is my religious belief that a child not get a vaccine," and therefore a child should be left with less protection under the law. The 14th Amendment of the Constitution, the so-called Equal Protection Clause, states that a child or anyone should be equally protected and implies that this is independent of a parent's belief system. If the child is exposed to harm, that child should have equal protection. For example, if a Jehovah's Witness parent says, "I do not want my child to get a lifesaving blood transfusion," the parent does not have the freedom of religion to practice that because of the 14th Amendment."

(Quote): "I think we should call these exemptions what they really are. Let's not sugarcoat this choice. We should call them the "I do not want to get vaccines because I have read a lot of scary things about vaccines and I am afraid that t
hey might hurt my child, and I am not so sure I believe in pharmaceutical companies or the medical establishment or the government, so I do not want my child to get them" vaccine exemption. That would be, I think, more honest."

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A More Honest Exemption

Dear Paul Offit:

Sure, let's call it the "I have read a lot of scary things about vaccines" exemption.
Whatever we call our GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS NO MAN CAN TAKE FROM US doesn't matter. We could call it the "foofy flarf booper" exemption for all it matters, because no matter what we call it: I choose what I do with my body - not you or any government.

Dick Blumenthal is going after CT kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGWWrxhCn0Q

Senator Peter Schiff 2016

I might be missing something

I might be missing something but how is an unvaccinated child going to get children sick who have been vaccinated for that particular disease. If they are vaccinated and it works how exactly would an unvaccinated child get them sick? I feel really dumb asking this and I'm pretty sure I'm missing something lol

Congratulations. You've

Congratulations. You've passed Logic 101. Your question is proof that there is no such thing as a stupid question.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

From what I have heard: "Its

From what I have heard:

"Its due to a thing called "Herd Immunity" in which Vaccines are not 100% effective so we need as many kids as possible to be vaccinated. The few that are not are more likely to get the disease and spread it to the vaccinated kids that the vaccine didnt work on."

The irony is that you actually have a really smart question with an incredibly stupid answer.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

One excuse I've heard

There are some kids too weak to get a vaccination, therefore those who deliberately choose to not vaccinate are putting these immune-deficient children at risk.

Poor excuse if I've ever heard one. It hardly counters all of the evidence demonstrating the dangers of vaccinations. Sure, lets get every kid sick so these immune-deficient kids don't feel left out.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Shh, Liberty81

You're not supposed to smart enough to figure that out.

no

ya ain't missin nuthin. you said it.

if you can answer THAT one, then you give me a call.

United States Vaccinations and China

Someone on here brought made the argument about 'what if we are all unvaccinated against smallpox and China brings a smallpox virus into the US and lets it loose?' Well, you must not have heard that the US is going to be importing vaccinations FROM China either soon, or are already doing it. So, just some food for thought for you, China isn't going to have to SNEAK in ANY type of killer virus or whatnot...why?? Because our governemtn is going to ALLOW them to import vaccines into the US. Scary thought. At least it SHOULD be.

http://blog.chron.com/momhouston/2011/11/are-parents-ready-f...

UNBELIEVABLE ADMISSION FROM PET VET !!!!

Vaccine-Induced Tumors In Cats

http://www.theledger.com/article/20120218/COLUMNISTS/202185001

(Excerpts): You may have noticed that your veterinarian used to vaccinate your cat between the shoulder blades and now they do it on a leg or on the tail. This practice was developed to make it easier to treat a tumor if it occurred.

Vaccine-associated sarcomas can develop over weeks to years after a vaccine is administered. These tumors are thought to occur from inflammation incited by the vaccine that causes these cells to divide. The best results for tumor control occur when aggressive surgery and radiation therapy are combined. Cats that undergo this type of treatment can be tumor-free for approximately two years.

The risk of developing a tumor from a vaccine may be much less than your cat catching a deadly virus that could have been prevented with a vaccine.

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Anyone who

believes that the State has the right to force people to take on something they don't consent to do, needs to get the hell off of this site. From the comments below, there are a few who are enemies of liberty. Go away. We don't need fascists in this volunteer community. Please kindly go away.

Sam Adams said it best,"Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Please leave the fight for liberty to those of us who actually believe in it.

Like there are OUTBREAKS caused by the unvaccinated? NOT!

Government is GOVERNMENT GONE WILD!

Sorry, but these bureaucrats are such CONTROL FREAKS! They relish in their desire to control us. They roll around in their power trips over us! I've seen this at even the local levels in the City Parks Board, for goodness sake.

I have a vaccine-injured grandchild, and I am really mad at the Medical Community who would rather pump through 10 patients per hour, rather than to do RESEARCH on their own time to INVESTIGATE what is true and what is not true!

They would discover the TRUTH, as "some" doctors have already.

This is really wrong. The government steps over the line, when it PHYSICALLY FORCES these kinds of things on us and our children. WHAT HAVE WE BECOME? THIS COUNTRY HAS CHANGED, AND NOT FOR THE BETTER. What is amazing to me is how only about 600 people in D.C. can control over 350 million people!

WE ARE EXPERIENCING FASCISM, and it's not right, especially when we know the facts are on our side, and especially when we have children and grandchildren who have been damaged by these vaccines!! Pure disgust and contempt is how I feel towards these government dictators. They are driving us out of this country...