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EPA/FDA cartel at it again

Some days ago I posted a link showing how FDA increases prices of medications by regulation, while providing no additional benefit. (here it is for reference again if you haven't seen it already - they attempted to increase the price by 150 times : http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/09/news/la-heb-prematur...)

They are at it again, this time in cooperation with EPA. They are banning OTC asthma inhalers that used to cost around $20 to now buy other type which costs around $60 and will also require doctor visit (so yeah, another co-pay plus insurance for the visit):


And this is nothing new - here's an article from 1994 in which they didn't allow a simple and cheap device that can help detect breast cancer and that's been available in Europe and Asia and used successfully for years prior to that:


Thanks to FDA the company didn't manage to profit from a cheap device that could have been used to catch breast cancer early enough. But someone must have profited quite a bit from chemotherapy medications over the backs of those that didn't detect it early enough.

And we wonder why healthcare costs so much...

Since the post started two other members posted great links that further expose the nature of this cartel. Here they are in case you don't feel like scrolling down:

FDA (by voteliberty2012)




EPA (by trisport)

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the epa sucks huge. we've all

the epa sucks huge. we've all known for a long time how corrupt the fda is, but the epa is another one up there in the running for most corruption.

the level of pcb's in the canals that surround my town is almost pure. 800,000 ppm....pure pcb's. every now and then, the epa will come to town and temporarily clean it up(covering any shred of corporate liability), and host these stupid town halls, telling everyone they do not know the source when i damn well know what the source is. monsanto sells pcb's to the energy companies, and it's pointe energy and du pont that illegally dump them in the canals. they come to town believing they can pacify the residents by telling them they will clean it up....but what about holding the corporation accountable? isn't that the job the bureaucrats and supporters of the epa think they're so capable of? not so much.

i'm going to suggest to my council a long shot measure. that we kick the epa out of our town, set up citizens arbitration, specifically for the residents living on the canal who have or have had cancer or other diseases related to the pollution, and use our own resources to drive directly to the obvious source of the pollution and ban them from using the canals to pollute the property of every resident living on them. i would definitely support the abolition of the epa.

Cheers for clean water!

All living things and creatures thank you :-)

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

And there is so much more

The FDA really should be a huge campaign issue; however, not enough people know what's going on to understand there is a problem with the FDA. Most people unfortunately still think the FDA serves its purpose to protect us.

A great article on the health care costs

FDA is attempting to remove your access to vitamins

And for anyone thinking the FDA is protecting you.
Merck gets caught, but FDA imposes no consequences

Great info!

Another great post with very informative links - everyone needs to check these out.
And this is the same issue I have - people naively believe that these two are protecting them, and there isn't enough readily available info out there (unless you do your own research). Anyone who cares about this, please vote for the topic so it stays on top, visible to everyone.

Primatene Mist's two main

Primatene Mist's two main ingredients are epinephrine (also known as adrenaline), a natural catecholamine hormone made in the adrenal glands (the fight or flight hormone), and chlorofluorocarbons, which are chemically inert in the body.

As an asthma sufferer, this is the only known asthma drug to which I do not suffer an allergic reaction, for obvious reasons.

Thanks once again to the criminals at the FDA and EPA for infringing on my right to breathe.

Since I'm able to synthesize my own adrenaline and CFC's, if the US government is going to prohibit me from manufacturing the only substance that allows me to breathe, then I have no choice but to sever all ties to this corrupt and tyrannical regime.


This story shows the EPA to be nothing less than a criminal enterprise:



This story shows the EPA to be nothing less than a criminal enterprise:


Great post

Government taking legally purchased private property and that's a new norm in this "free country" ? I bet you anything that 10 years from now once this article is long gone and everything forgotten they'll try to sell this land for 5 million to some "environmentally friendly" (read "EPA VP donor") buyer.

As long as this triumvirate (EPA/FDA/DEA) imposes their "benevolence" on people we will keep losing our liberty and our freedom of choice inch by inch until none is left.

Another article for Dr. No

Since Dr. No thinks that FDA works for us here's another article, this time from 1994:


In this case they refused to approve a super-cheap ($10-$15) product that enables women to detect lumps in their breast (for breast cancer prevention). Mind you, this device has been in use succesfully in Asia and Europe years prior to this. But no, FDA wanted to have this small company go through prohibitively expensive trials that large med corps have to go through when approving a device such as heart valves and stuff like that (which are completely different type of products). So not only did this not get approved but this small company lost a ton of money fighting legal battles with FDA.

Moral of the story - this small competitor to big corps didn't make profit from this device designed to help detect early signs of breast cancer. However, I am sure that someone else profited greatly from selling expensive chemotherapy meds and radiation to women. Women who didn't have the right to buy a product which could have helped them catch this disease early enough.

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Oh, at first I was confused since Dr. Paul has

been called "Dr. No" in the past. Then I found the reference below in your thread. vman, thanks for the research and posts you have supplied. Do you archive links to these important proofs in a website of your own by any chance?

That's why the DP troll Dr.

That's why the DP troll Dr. NO picked that screen name. It plays on the fact that Dr. Paul was referred as Dr. No and it plays on the fact that our DP troll doesn't agree with Dr. Paul(hence the NO part of his name, as in 'NO' I don't agree with Ron Paul)

No, but

No, but this is something I've been thinking about... And, yeah, I should have probably clarified it's a guy on the forum , not Dr. Paul , but now looks like I can't edit the post anymore (probably coz there were responses to it). Oh, well, hopefully people scroll down.


Sorry for self-bump but I'd like to keep this around for some time, so more people can see it.

Bump. it's important that

Bump. it's important that more people understand this.

I say we ban the EPA and the FDA instead.

That way, folks can get their medicine, and we can be rid of a bunch of rotten crooks in unconstitutional gov't agencies.

This is

something I keep telling people - they live in this illusion that FDA is protecting their health and that it's somehow necessary . All FDA is protecting is profits of large pharma (and of insurance companies through that relation) and agricultural subsidies.

If you look at people at FDA and FDAA (alumni) they are all (or most) also chairmen of some other companies, or have been CEOs of some large corporations, etc. One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out whose interests they care about.

This just isn't true. If it

This just isn't true.

If it was, why does the FDA impedge the path of pharma and healthcare companies all the time?

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Not true?

What's not true ? I didn't imagine those articles or write them myself - go ahead and read them. And this is just a small, recent part of what they do.

They impede mainly small-scale agricultural operations by burdening them with regulations and "health standards" that they just don't need because they don't manufacture in large quantities as the big ones do. They are effectively legislating small competition out of business so that the big agricultural subsidies can function uninterrupted and unchallenged.

They also impede compounding pharmacies so that big pharma can prosper.

Big pharmacies and food corporations are more afraid of journalists with cameras recording inside their facilities then they are afraid of FDA.

Sure, occasionally they will withdraw their approved drug when a bunch of people die from it, and they will have some regulations around "clinical research and trials" so that it looks like they are actually doing something. Otherwise it would be point-blank clear what they really are about.

The whole idea is to create this illusion of safety and that they are actually doing something for common good and that without them we'd be all sick and dying from these non-FDA approved products. Otherwise they couldn't justify their decisions and you wouldn't be defending them right now, if they just point-blank went out and said "Yeah, you know what - we're really doing this just so that our 'donors' from big pharma and agricultural corps can make bigger profits"

They mostly impede natural

They mostly impede natural cures and products.

Yeah, because they are old

Yeah, because they are old guys who believe in conventional wisdom and conventional wisdom. They stuided during a time when alternative and homeopathic medicine were derided and chided as stupid and silly. It is no surprise that they carry that viewpoint when they make policy.

But it isn't because they are bought or captured. It is because they are behind the times.

It is the same reason the FDA is so hesitant to approve weight-loss drugs and medicines for psychological illnesses.

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Huh? On the one hand I get

Huh? On the one hand I get what you mean if you are referring to medical school. However, it was only 100 years ago that other ideas in medicine were acceptable and practiced- not a time period so outside the memory of the last couple generations. Moreover, the people who sit on these boards or are in influential positions are not all doctors and scientists. Nonetheless, their ignorance is no excuse to infringe on the freedom and rights of Americans.

BTW, homeopathy is still widely accepted and practiced in regular medicine in Europe and many other areas around the world. Recently, Luc Montagnier, discoverer of Aids, has come out in support of homeopathy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/luc-montagnier-hom...


Yeah, they are also old guys who also have a lot of stake and shares in large pharmacies: