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Occupy!

I suggest that we all pledge solidarity with those who are peacefully occupying in NYC, Chicago, San Francisco and other places around the world. These are our brothers and sisters.

The political process in the United States has been hijacked long ago by the same canker and corruption that the forefathers sought to rid us of. The one monster two party system is fundamentally rigged against the people.

Will your vote make much difference?

All voting is a sort of gaming, like checkers or backgammon, with a slight moral tinge to it, a playing with right and wrong, with moral questions; and betting naturally accompanies it. The character of the voters is not staked. I cast my vote, perchance, as I think right; but I am not vitally concerned that right should prevail. I am willing to leave it to the majority.

HENRY DAVID THOREAU, On the Duty of Civil Disobedience

I am concerned that right prevail. I am not willing to leave it to the tyranny of a deluded and misinformed majority!

This is from the Occupy Wall St web site:
http://occupywallst.org/

http://nycga.cc/

Our Mission

On the 17th of September, we want to see 20,000 people to flood into lower Manhattan, set up beds, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street for a few months.

Like our brothers and sisters in Egypt, Greece, Spain, and Iceland, we plan to use the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic of mass occupation to restore democracy in America. We also encourage the use of nonviolence to achieve our ends and maximize the safety of all participants.

Who is Occupy Wall Street?

Occupy Wall Street is a leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%.

The original call for this occupation was published by Adbusters in July; since then, many individuals across the country have stepped up to organize this event, such as the people of the NYC General Assembly and US Day of Rage. There'll also be similar occupations in the near future such as October2011 in Freedom Plaza, Washington D.C.




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these are ron paul anarcholibertarians supporting Occupy!
http://peacefreedomprosperity.com/

Democracy Now coverage
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/9/30/inside_occupy_wall_st_...

(I dont much like Juan Gonzales, for sure, but Amy Goodman Rocks! Very even coverage here)

spreading the word
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/occupying-and-n...

Jail cells being occupied, more cops getting overtime

Protesters, possibly including RP supporters, being arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge.

Not sure, but the total number may be in the hundreds.

UPDATE: local news coverage:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Occupy-Wall-St-protests...

If they had simply let folks peacefully march it would all have been over in 45 min. Now, with arrests maybe still ongoing four hours later the bridge remains closed.

Occupy the New York federal

Occupy the New York federal reserve, End the FED!

Boston anti-fed rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fV0YjQQzYk&feature=related

Anger over their crappy baseball team put to good use LOL.

(Apologies and condolences to Sox fans.)

The question is....

How do we take advantage of the protests to our benefit? There is no central authority controlling it, it is a mix of people.

NY General Assembly

http://nycga.cc/

Here's the central authority you were looking for.

http://nycga.cc/who-we-are/

"New York City General Assemblies are an open, participatory and horizontally organized process through which we are building the capacity to constitute ourselves in public as autonomous collective forces within and against the constant crises of our times. Please read the Principles of Solidarity working draft."

Sounds like organized solidarity movement collectivists to me. I should know after all. I'm in a very large union because the laws in my state demand it if I want to build airplanes.

--->> It's On !!

Thousands March on New York Police Headquarters
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/thousands-march-on-new-york...

Occupy America Protest/Link Directory
http://12160.info/page/occupy-usa-directory

Lawrence O'Donnell on Police Brutality full clips of the clash between demonstrators at occupy wall street at Occupy Wall Street
http://12160.info/video/lawrence-o-donnell-on-police-brutali...

Nobody Can Predict The Moment Of Revolution ( Occupy Wall Street )
http://12160.info/video/nobody-can-predict-the-moment-of-rev...

'“Occupy Wall Street” – A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing?'
http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:BlogPost:669454?xg_sourc...

Researchers Hack Voting Machine for $26 http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:BlogPost:679497?xg_sourc...

WRONG

You don't know stratedgy .
Please STAY AWAY.

If you believe your own rehtoric then I am out of here.
We have lost. The Elite and Wallstreet win this one.

i suppose you mean "strategy"

friend, your strategy seems clear enough.

Why dont you want to help those who want to change their country?

Wallstreet only does what they are told to do.

THEY are not the enemy. They are used by your enemy.
They are regulated and told where to invest.
That IS their function. Investing.
PROFIT is a fact of life if you want a healthy capitolism.
They received their rewards for doing what they were told to do.

Your enemy is doing a diversion.
Blame the Privates for the Generals doings.

just hoping to get this link out there

http://12160.info/page/occupy-usa-directory thanks

"ron paul is not running....ron paul is not running" -bloomberg 'expert' morning after the bloodbath, i mean, debate!

!Deadline to register to vote

!Deadline to register to vote in New York primary is Oct. 14, you must register Republican to vote for Ron Paul get the word out!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?319684-URGENT-Oc...

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this is important!!!

the occupy! movement is part of the R[3voJ]tion.

It's time for likeminded people to work together.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/30-0

Protest or Organize

I've been covering this for a while

http://www.dailypaul.com/179551/global-revolution-occupy-wal...

Most people who have commented are against it.

its unfortunate

but many people are so blind-sided by their notions of propriety that it doesnt occur to them that we have a common enemy that we are fighting with the progressives.

The Endless war, corporatism (which is a brand of fascism), the destruction of the economy, illegal searches, the Patriot Act, illegal assassinations, illegal detentions, torture, the Police State, the ridiculous incarceration of citizens, and the stupidity of the war on (some) drugs are all things we can agree on right away.

We can all agree that the health care system Sucks. We might not agree on how to fix it. We can agree that Mitt Womney and Wick Pewwy and Cheney and Karl Rove, Lindsay Graham, and Obama all suck.

That's a lot we can agree on.

We want to occupy the White House not Wall St

Wall street took money THE GOVERNMENT GAVE!!!!!! THE GOVERNMENT THE GOVERNMENT THE GOVERNMENT! Geesh

Those folks want communism, government owned everything!

That starts October 5th

LOL, it's not associated with the wall st protests though lol I'm just joking I think it's an environmental protest.

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Keep the energy focused on fundraising, delegates and the campaign phone drive ... everyone else on Wall St is cherry picking Dr. Paul's platform anyway so no need to show up there

The first 60 seconds sound like a Ron Paul Guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwWInp75ua0

These people can be educated ... Yes they are socialists but the know wall street is a problem ... we have more in common then we are willing to admit.

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the only thing they have in common is

they use similar words to fill their agenda purpose.
their agenda is to shame Ron Paul.
STAY AWAY.please.

I'll guaranrtee they use the words and video for Obama in the General. They fight for the mind of those who think like Ron Paul. Confusion is the best trick of the devil.
I do not meant to bring religion in, but the shoe fits.
They want the middle class. It is classic communist style.

If you examine the philosophy of these people

you'll see that they align pretty well with classic Fascism and Nazism, in their economic views. The Nazis wanted the government to nationalize big corporations. They were upset about corporations making too much money. They advocated democratic control over business with profit-sharing among all employees. They wanted finance capitalism outlawed. Those protesters are essentially economic fascists. These are the kind of people a fascist dictator needs to rise to power. Be careful flirting with them, as they may co-opt YOU.

you say this but

here is the original call to action that got all of those people out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSpM2kieMu8&feature=player_em.... Funny doesn't sound like fachism or nazism. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZAW-VczMwc/TlWgnb1LUwI/AAAAAAAAAb... I'm not seeing anything about your claims there either. Can you back this up with vidseo footage + research and sources because I can back my point with a lot.

Despite what the media has been telling you...

I thought people here knew better than to listen to the MSM. Shame on the 50+ system trolls that are spamming hate of this event, there are a lot of Ron Paul supporters at the over 30 occupy _____ protests currently going on in the US. Every one of these videos is great, the protests are attracting TONS of positive attention. These are serious protests, anyone who has actually studied history by reading the autobiographies of the enlightenment revolutionaries knows exactly whats coming, this is the revolution after that is freedom and enlightenment. These are not riots, they are protests, a right reserved to American's that cannot be taken away per Amendment I of the US constitution. Despite the fact that the MSM will try to make it as unappealing as possible this is the only way to be heard by those in power over this country.

The reason so many trolls on this board are trying to dissuade people from these protests (not really many trolls it's probably more like 50 fake internet personalities operated by 2 or 3 guys) is BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TALKING TO THE PROTESTERS. Word of mouth is like kryptonite to the system especially right now as that is primarily how Ron Paul's voting base is expanded. Of course the system has trolls to, they probably infiltrated thew crowd early and are trying to do embarrassing acts and get others to do them as it is their job, the govt's been doing this since our second president. This would of course explain the MSM miss footage going on.

This is one of the best opportunities we will ever get to make new Ron Paul supporters because we can go down and interact with them directly en-masse. This could make the elsection

Here those that want the info on the protests let me toss you a few vids
http://rt.com/programs/alyona-show/left-attacks-occupy-wall/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdKPXwXVQlg&feature=player_em...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyp1n2WXUho

I hesitated to use term troll

because they might not be trolls just confused people.

some of my comments arent popular with everyone.

We need to be working with Occupy ________!

They need our support.

Michael Moore indicated that Ron Paul supporters are there.

It is the message of liberty that sets people free.

Not disagreeing with you I hesitated to use the term troll

initially too, but I calls em as I see em anyone who ever tells someone else not to protest doesn't respect their rights to redress their own grievances how they see necessary per ammendment I and certainly doesn't seem to believe that individuals can handle their own issues. Confusion is one thing but what confuses me is more the timing and argument level of these supposedly confused peoples posts. They are posting during the day when most people are at work, Indicating that they are either posting from work, they are unemployed or that it is their job to monitor post and change opinions on this forum. This is probably one of the most govt monitored forums on the internet. It's a well known fact that the govt used to like to track Ron Paul supporters, hence why I use proxies on this board and change my acct every year. It's not unthinkable that there are hired people that pose as members given the information acquired from the HbGary incident. That being said most of the people who seem anti-amendment I have fairly old accounts all started around the same time period.

If it is an office worker, surely they have better things to do then post on this forum I'd hope and they should not be telling the unemployed how to redress their grievances. If they are students I hope that they are not put in a place where they need to protest and they are being told not to. But given how afraid Wall ST and the current system are of this march I would think that a ton of the spies on these forum will expose themselves by trying to tell people not to protest and that there are not RP people there and they should not be there even though they should. This is not Leftism, this is people, they are demanding many different things and they have no unified demands, some people are holding signs saying "tax the rich more". Those people might be mislead but they are ready to act so help them and educate them better. This could be something huge and it has a lot of historical precedent as being effective. This protest is part of Anonymous, A99 is an Anonymous for those who can't hack and want to act, they are stepping forward and every one of those people represents 100s that feel the same way. These protests will grow and America will be reclaimed by the people I predicted this immediately after Anonymous came to the defense of wikileaks. I knew it would happen because history works in cycles. Its time to complete these cycles.

Their argument style is exactly the same, it's almost creepy like arguing with a computer. They will not cite their sources. They will play the same patterns of logic on the internet argument totem pole, open low (racial comments and such) and bargain up (trying to make peace). When they send responses it's like they don't check links. And they never provide sources for their arguments or follow up source documents. They take to their opinions and hold to them hot. All the same, like I said creepy. They might be mistaken and they might be trolls.

Their arguments don't even make sense Nazism, Corporatism, Fascism and other systems of this like are caused by people going along with the flow of governance doing whatever they wanted. To even suggest otherwise is wrong. "There has never been a man that died of marijuana that wasn't killed by a cop".