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Ron Paul's Editorial in the NY Daily News: An Unconstitutional Killing

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/10/02/2011-10-02_an...

As President, I would not hesitate to use decisive force to repel any imminent threat. National defense is a primary function of Congress and the commander-in-chief, and, as chief executive, I would carry out my duties as outlined in the Constitution and in accordance with the rule of law.

President Obama apparently believes he is not bound by the Constitution or the rule of law. When it was reported that Anwar al-Awlaki was killed by U.S. drone strikes in Yemen last week, certainly no one felt remorse for his fate. Awlaki was a detestable person we believe helped recruit and inspire others to kill Americans through terrorist acts.

We have to take the fight against terrorism very seriously. In 2001, I supported the authority to capture and kill the thugs responsible for 9/11. In our efforts we must, however, work hard to preserve and respect our great American constitutional principles.

Awlaki was a U.S. citizen. Under our Constitution, American citizens, even those living abroad, must be charged with a crime before being sentenced. As President, I would have arrested Awlaki, brought him to the U.S., tried him and pushed for the stiffest punishment allowed by law. Treason has historically been judged to be the worst of crimes, deserving of the harshest sentencing. But what I would not do as President is what Obama has done and continues to do in spectacular fashion: circumvent the rule of law.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/10/02/2011-10-02_an...

When you read the comments you realize how far we have wandered from our constitutional home. We are like the Israelites in the desert. All I can say is, thank goodness we have Ron Paul as our guide.



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NY Daily News is TRASH

I wouldn't pay attention to any of the article comments...

RonPaulIsMyPresident.com

God's grace

There but for the Grace of God...goes any one of us.

By their deeds you shall know them...

This all boils down to one

This all boils down to one simple question that Americans will have to answer in 2012:

Does the president of the United States have the right to order the killing of an American citizen without charge or trial?

No. Period. Americans will not stand for this.

The problem with the initial reaction polls was the fact that most Americans had no clue Awlaki was a US citizen, and most did not know he was never charged with a crime.

The devil's in the details, and the details have already caused serious blowback.

Glenn Beck is a classic example of how Americans will change their minds quickly after discovering the details.

Original response - "Awlaki has been killed, great news!"

In retrospect respone - "He was a US citizen? Really? He was never charged with a crime? So Obama killed an American citizen without charge or trial? Seriously? WTF?"

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Anwar al-Awlaki and the Constitution

Anwar al-Awlaki and the Constitution: http://davidkretzmann.com/2011/10/anwar-al-awlaki-and-the-co...

"I am amazed how quickly people defend the assassination of an unconvicted human being, provided a President calls him a bad guy. It is truly sickening."

The morons on THE

The morons on THE FIVE(stupidest people in the world) are at it again slamming the Good Doctor for his stance on this and his editorial.....I just sent them that video of Cain agreeing with him.....

here's their email.....SLAM em'

thefive@foxnews.com

Quote of the Century

QUOTE OF THE CENTURY, MAYBE EVEN THE MILLENNIUM

Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

He's right. An ignorant

He's right. An ignorant American populace is more dangerous to the survival of our Republic than any one man, woman, foreign terrorists or foreign military.

Most Americans are driven to their conclusions by fear which is fueled by the MSM.

Unless America truly wakes up our Republic is doomed to fall.

Illegal immigrants are given

Illegal immigrants are given due process in this country, but that same due process was denied this American citizen. He was tried, convicted and executed all without a trial and proper representation. This was done on accusations alone.

All those Americans who are cheering his death should pause and think, if our government can do this to one American citizen whats to stop them from doing this to all American citizens they deem as guilty of a crime?

Americans who believe this action was right and also believe in the US Constitution are contradicting themselves.

This person whether guilty or not deserved his day in court. Just like all Americans who are accused of a crime.

NYdailynews is running poll now whether killing was justified

78% say "yes", 22% - "no."
I am beginning to suspect that the campaign to support killing is orchestrated and possibly managed by the White House. Many people are for redistribution of wealth, and, therefore, support Obama, but this is beyond support.

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What really sickens me -

besides the obvious Constitution trampling - is that just a couple of months ago, I would have cheered this death too. I'm new enough to still occasionally fall for the old double-think process. Gobbling down each tidbit of "news" piecemeal instead of seeing the whole picture. Thanks to RP & the DP, I know better now, but I understand where these people are coming from.

Our government has conducted assassinations in secret for years - even during times of so-called "peace". Our government doesn't tell us everything they know, so people believe that whatever they do is for the best for us. They say they have evidence, won't tell us, but surely they know what they are doing. That's the mindset I used to have, and it's the one too many people still have. It saddens me beyond belief.

2 days ago I had a fight with one of my best friends of over thirty years over this. We haven't spoken since.

I'll give as much respect to my elected officials as they give to the Constitution!

Great Interview

Glenn Greenwald discussing Obama's assassination on Antiwar Radio.

http://dissentradio.com/radio/11_09_30_kpfk_greenwald.mp3

I have always maintained that Ron Paul has backbone. The clowns saying that Paul lost their vote are wholly dishonest; Paul never had their vote. This event is a stark reminder of the importance of principle. The former anti-war Democrats are now using the same arguments as Republicans did when they defended the Bush administration. Sometimes I wonder if people know what's written in the Patriot Act. If they did, then they would know the designation "terrorist" is incredibly malleable.

comments

I'm sure I'm just noticing what was already there, but I'm noticing a lot more vigorously anti-Paul comments in a lot of recent articles. For example, here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/03/ron-paul-2012_n_991...

I seem to remember it used to be Paul supporters who would mostly comment on articles about Paul. Now it seems to be mostly comments that strongly oppose Paul.

Does that mean it's more important than ever that we comment on these things? Or does it mean that his candidacy is growing stronger? It's interesting to think about...

I checked out the comments

actually it was pretty much positive for Dr. Paul over there even among the obviously progressive crowd. Of course some of the hard core Dems throw cute dismissives, but in general it was positive.

The independents hate the republican party almost as much as I do and cant hardly bear voting for someone who carries the same name brand as Cheney and Rove. I've been a Republican most of my life.

Good Point !

At the last local Ron Paul meet up I went to, some attendees didn't realize that Ron Paul is "NOT" a neo-con Republican, which bothered me so much that I got the floor and tried to explain that the neo-cons were war-mongers and Ron Paul is a strict Jeffersonian type Constitutionalist Republican.

A Big difference.

beesting

always good to comment

however, this poll in the main article for this topic, is stuck at 19%. First time I've seen a poll like this stuck after the Daily Paul picks it up...strange.

http://x.co/a3S7 - shortened link version

The ignorance of the general public astounds me

I have just been reading the comments on the NY Daily News site. If they actually represent a cross-section of the American people, we are really in deep doo-doo. Al-Awlaki may have been a despicable traitor and murderer, but to allow the president to execute him without any attempt at a trial, even in-absentia, sets a dangerous precedent.

Can't these people see that, as we slide down this slippery slope, any one of us could ultimately be declared a terrorist or traitor, just by speaking out against the U.S. government, or even some powerful special interest group, and so be subject to the same fate? We have already had our liberties eroded with warrantless searches and TSA screening, all in the name of fighting terrorism. When will this end---when we become like Nazi Germany? Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Unfortunately, I feel this article may hurt Ron Raul's support among the unthinking, MSM brainwashed masses. He is just too smart for them to understand. God bless him for having the courage to speak out anyway!

Paul and Herman Cain

Did anyone notice Herman Cain said the guy should have been put on trial as well. The media chastises Ron Paul but not a word about Cain. Mr. Cains is designed to dilute Ron Paul votes, don't fall for his crap.

The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it-Andrew Jackson

Shhhh.. You might be next on Obama’s hit list. America on trial

No trial, no jury, no rights for Americans anymore. We have crossed the Rubicon.

Resident Obama is now acting like a dictator. He now has the clear and stated authority to put any American citizen on a CIA hit list. "You think I am kidding?" You won't see it or hear it coming.

We see what is coming and we will not stand for it. The War on terror is really a war on the American people. It starts with the fringes of society then works its way like a pinwheel towards the center.

I recently read that the first amendment or free speech is what will save this republic. I thought, well yes, as long as the people can speak their minds we will not slip into fascism, but with this precedent of killing a US born citizen without due process for saying something against our government, I feel like we are seeing the death of America. I do not recognize this country, the blind patri-autism from congress and the people, that enables this or any leader to violate the higher law are just as guilty as the criminal(s) themselves

I am busily writing to members of Congress

Obama: Should I pander hither or thither?

Ron, Ron, Ron. This guy

Ron, Ron, Ron. This guy joined a bunch of terrorists. He got nothing less than what he deserved. And why didn't you speak up when W. tossed the Constitution out the window with all his executive orders and secret courts? Oh, yeah, he's a fellow Reputzlican like you. Congrats for getting your election bid flushed down the toilet, you moron..... These are the kind of uneducated people commenting on there.Obviously they no nothing about RP other than what the media twists. RP was very critical towards Bush and the patriot act, Iraq war and so on. These people are why our country is going down but I feel sorry for them because our education system made them all numb and confused.

It is true that our education

It is true that our education system has made our citizens numb and confused. When you combine that with the programming that poses as the Press, it's no wonder the public's ability to think clearly, intelligently and morally has deteriorated over the past couple of generations.

The people do get the government that they deserve. God help us all.

Why are some Americans young

Why are some Americans young and old awake while others are fast asleep? We all are products of the same education system

we are not all from the same

we are not all from the same educational system. there are private schools, public schools, and home schooling. Believe it or not I am a product of all three and I can tell you that there are HUGE differences between them. You also have to include religious backgrounds and parental guidance when analyzing the state of confusion in America. But keep in mind if we followed the rule of law and the constitution all of the above would be a non-issue and the people who make bad choices would have to reap the consequences and change their ways or fizzle out. This is why I support Dr. Paul.

Just so everyone knows,

Just so everyone knows, paulorbust is quoting a comment in the article in the first 5 lines...

Hey thanks for clearing that

Hey thanks for clearing that up :) I didn't realize it wasn't very clear as I was typing it. That's what happens when you get caught up in the moment.

I'm going to post this..

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/ over there and let them chew on it for awhile.....

"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin

I've been Paulite since there's been Ron Paul

I've voted for Dr. Paul every time he's been on any ticket, and at times have written his name in.

But of all the things he's said or written, this is the first time I've ever heard him directly call out the name of the president, or anyone for that matter.

This is some serious stuff going on here!

Freedom is my Worship Word!

The comments in there

shocked me more than any of the gay-booers or death-hooters from the republican debates.

I mean, we're used to hearing idiots; but my god, every. single. post. is either baseless or has some terrible flaw or misunderstanding or flat-out lie in it.

Many of the comments

are horrible. People in this country never seem to cease at horrifying me at their lust for blood. They have no clue what this man did or didn't due. Only hear say. Yet they have connected and convicted him of things the Obama administration didn't even mention. Ignorance is a hard thing to break though when people are so blinded by blood lust and fear. Lord help us.