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FOX: ATF Tells Gun Shops Medical Marijuana Patients Can NOT Own Guns!



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Not enforceable

Most of the states do not allow the fed or LE into the MMJ databanks by law because it could cause a holocaust.

I'm glad the ATF is doing this...

those medical marijuana patients with guns scare me!

Note: I am being sarcastic to illustrate the false claims and fear-mongering the ATF (and every other government bureaucracy) has to rely on in order to maintain control of the population, line their pockets with my money and avoid accountability.

"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin

The ATF has no authority to do this.

They try it and they might find the results slightly different than what happened at Waco.

It actually just won't work anyway

States are required to keep MMJ databases that cannot be accessed by the federal govt or any law enforcement by law. Should any law enforcement use these records to verify a gun purchase it would cause a mis-trial as the evidence was illegally obtained and therefore could not be submitted in court as evidence. So there is NOTHING preventing a MMJ owner from purchasing a gun in most states.

What this does do is create a technicality which allows MMJ users and shop operators who also happen to own guns to be charged with a felony (declared a felony by the ATF and not congress) for illegal possession of fire arms. I'm pretty sure that unless you have a corrupt judge and got a bench trial and you were arrested by ATF and not state police, it's still an instant mis-trial (just add hot water). The issue would emerge if the state police were the arresting body as they would have the right to check if you were a MMJ user should you be caught with marijuana and claim to be so. Bear in mind my understanding of MMJ law comes from studying Colorado where MMJ rights are the strongest due to them being an amendment to our state's constitution. Also, more people need guns in Colorado since some live pretty close to wild animals, so gun rights are pretty good too.

The issue of not allowing MMJ shop owners to carry guns has resulted in a number of MMJ related shootings and robberies, sometimes ending in innocent death, becoming an almost daily occurrence in some MMJ communities. In CO until the laws were mysteriously reformed with the help of an MMJ insider to be more business friendly it was thought that MMJ patients could not own guns. At one point in 2009 extremely violent robberies began occurring many of these plots involved small children, in one case outside of Nederland two 7 year olds were tied up and beaten with pistols to get their brother to reveal where his MMJ was being grown and stored, in another small children of a Colorado Springs shop owner were kidnapped. It is very clear to most shop owners now that high tech security cameras and heavy door systems are not enough as in some cases (as was mine) patients were committing the robberies and using MMJ cards to get access to the store.

The ATF is creating a situation that will literally result in 100s of innocent deaths on and annual basis and will make MMJ less affordable to patients as MMJ businesses will now be required to hire an armed guard who has no association with the community, who will be more likely choose to rob patients and shop personnel at gunpoint.

That being said I think one of the things that this Occupy! movement needs to get out there is that there should be no ATF, they do the exact opposite of what their claimed purpose is and they fuck up everything that they try to handle. The ATF is an oppressive-police state waste of funds, we'd do better without them.

You are absolutely correct

I have given that memo to my attorney. He is a civil rights lawyer (the best kind IMHO) He said that there will definately be a huge lawsuit over this! He is very active in the ACLU and is personally taking this to the powers who will stop this garbage. You can be sure they are mounting an offensive as we speak. I hope that Dr. Paul dismantles the ATF when he shuts down the FED, Dept of Education and all of those other over-reaching, over-bearing power-hungry agencies. I could tell you stories about the the ATF that would curl your toenails!

"There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know." -John Heywood 1546
Dr. Ron Paul is my HERO!

ACLU

Good luck with that. The ACLU has always held the position that the Bill of Rights comprises nine amendments, numbered 1, 3, 4, 5, ... 10. (They are not too keen on 10, either.)

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