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edit: Occupy! and "How To Brainwash a Nation:" 1 Hr video

The following video was filmed in 1985, and has seen play on DP before, but it's very relevant to the recent wall street protests and the suspicion that a good number of the protesters are a bit too "socialist" in their message.

Video here

edit: Full, one hour interview

After watching the full interview, I decided to edit this post a bit. The FULL video gives more data and actually made me realize that the best solution for the Occupy! protests is to view them as organized by dangerous individuals looking to destabilize the government and promise lots of "free goodies" (redistribution of wealth) to the silly adherents who desire social change.

Joining the "Occupy!" protests is not a good idea. Trying to change the minds of people involved who do not know any better might be a good idea.

Perhaps this video can explain why ordinary Americans, especially some young people, are now touting the very principles which are anathema to a free society and bring about totalitarianism.

This "movement" needs to be overwhelmed, through education, by those who truly support liberty - us. Else it will go out of control and be used to create disorder in the government, bringing it down with violence. The best way to control this movement is to dwarf it with the educational force of the educated disciples of liberty. We are more educated and more dedicated, and thus can achieve control. Shunning it, we will not be able to control it. Leading by example, and educating with truth, we may convert others.

Note that the leaders of this movement should likely be completely ignored. They are set in their ways and intend destruction.

The video discusses "the four stages of ideological subversion" which the powers-that-be used (and arguably are still using) to destroy this nation and other nations, replacing their governments with a Soveit-style oppression machine - all coming from the mouth of an agent who used to work for them.

How to reverse the ideological subversion of this country is noted in the segment starting at 1h 07m 30sec and 1h 10m 00sec. It is a 15 year+ process!

Amazing data also at 1h 16m about the true source of this war for our freedoms. You need to hear this to believe it.

Also at 1h 17m, is what we can do about this - education.

Stage 1 and 2 of the plan outlined in the video are already long done, and Stage 3 - crisis - could be in progress now. Waste no opportunity to educate sheeple enamored by these protests and guide their ideological development so they can become true patriots. But their "organizers" have very specific goals, despite what the media says. They are the enemy of freedom and aim to overthrow the government with violent revolution, with the end goal of total authoritarian dominance.

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Double Standard?

Why was it ok to invade the "extremist" neocon rich Tea Party early on and not do the same with OWS to prevent their likely martial law/middle class destroying tax hikes?

We got Rand Paul elected because of how hard we worked to wake people up and accomplished getting half the tea party to come around libertarian views which is why Ron Paul didn't have to change his views, but rather the country has changed theirs.

I get it if the 40+ year old DP members don't want to associate with these young "rabble rousers", but this is my generation that's hitting those streets and they need to be shown the light.

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Liberty must defend philosophic turf OWS is invading

I'm starting to get involved with the local OWS here and there's no way I'm going to let the unions and Soros' moveon.org members I'm seeing creep in hijack this thing.

It's our duty as Liberty supporters not to hijack OWS, but to defend OUR movement's turf.

Just like with the tea party, OWS is trying to hijack OUR movement against the bankers and put a right-left spin on the whole thing so they can become the democrat's "booster club" just like how Tea Party Express and Freedomworks have transformed the Liberty movement inspired tea party into the RNC's booster club.

Don't go to the OWS meetings and sit-ins as Ron Paul Nation, but simply as advocates for sound money, there to educate on the true sources of our 99% fiscal calamity.

I will advocate and carry END THE FED signs at OWS leaving my RP signage for sign bombs and general campaigning.

No need to campaign for RP with these folks because they can't/won't help in the primary. But their support and energy directed at the Federal Reserve will be invaluable, especially compared to the alternative of their rioting used to justify martial law and wiping out the middle class with pro-elite tax increases.

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Either OWS protestors are too

Either OWS protestors are too clueless to comprehend basics such as the following truism: The US was founded as a "Republic," NOT a "Democracy."

A "Democracy" creates tyranny of the majority and does NOT recognize minorities, whereas a "Republic" recognizes minorities.

Or OWS was created and is being funded by the very enties, the international banksters who the protestors are supposedly protesting against, to polarize and create chaos -- in other words, CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.

"One group of about ten

"One group of about ten Hispanic protesters marched behind a Caucasian individual from the DC Tenants Advocacy Coalition, a non-profit organization dedicated to supporting rent control in Washington, DC. Asked why they were there, some Hispanic protesters holding up English protest signs could not articulate what their signs said...DC asked that organizer whether he was paying the group to attend the protest, and he conceded that some protesters aren't volunteers.

---Daily Caller 6 Oct 2011

Don't wait!

Join the protests. We need to educate these people!

Francis Fox Piven and Russell Simmons Address Occupy Wall Street

For those of you who know who Francis Fox Piven is this is further evidence of why Ron Paul supporters should stay away from this. For those of you who do not know who Francis Fox Piven is, 'google' cloward and piven. It's a strategy, which her and her husband created in the '60's for those radicals, to collapse the entire system by getting as many people as possible on the government dole. While you may think that if this happens 'We' will be able to reform the U.S. back to the way it was intended; think again. They have been constructing massive infrastructure for decades which will be put in place when the system collapses. This is not a system in-favor of liberty. So, if you are insistent on gathering with these people, tread lightly.

Remember, "when you dance with the devil the devil doesn't change, the devil changes you."


She's there, but not where I'm at

The OWS followers can be turned to the light side. They want answers and that's why we need to be there to give it to them instead of the usual leftist minion who will further tell them to blame capitalism (which itself is a communist term for the Free Market).

And what's with the double standard of Liberty infiltrating the NeoCon rich Tea Party movement, but not the leftist OWS movement before it has a chance to really become socialist?

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Thank you for sharing

this perspective, bookmarked to watch.

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why should any of *us* be surprised when . . .

freedom movements get hijacked? Eh?

Good points made--

but some within the group will continue to think, will be stirred up--

good can come even after the bad and ugly and indifferent.

Individual agency is a gift from God--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--