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Ron Paul 2012 TV Ad: 'Start Protecting America's Borders'



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Slick ad

This one should get re-ran in some states.

Incredible

This ad strikes at the heart.

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Finally Drudge reports

links to this report: hxxp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/8/ron-paul-wins-conservative-voter-straw-poll/

Hell Yeah !!

Defend and protect the Constitution of the United States.

donvino

Have You Forgotten?

Tom Tancredo made illegal immigration his #1 policy issue last election and how far did he get? Yeah, nowhere.

This ad is another demonstration that the official Ron Paul campaign managers are WEAK and you should donate to the RevolutionPAC over them. I know this because of their treatment of Tom Woods. As Woods has written on his blog:

http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/what-ron-paul-should-say/

"...This time, if they can raise the funds to do it again, the finished product needs to be better, and on foreign policy every single home-run argument needs to be touched on.

I would be thrilled to put something like this together, but my nominal presence on Revolution PAC precludes communication with the campaign, and in any event certain people there would allow my participation over their dead bodies...

I can't communicate with [Ron Paul] because of Revolution PAC. But even if I could, it would have to be via back channels. I am persona non grata ["an unwelcome person"] with the powers that be."

"I hate government as much as government hates freedom, and that's a lot." - Mike Malin

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Was that Granny Warrior

Lol. Was that Granny Warrior at the end?

Three excellent things about

Three excellent things about this commercial, which of course is targeted at likely GOP primary voters. (1) The Paul Plan... he SORELY needs to outline what he would do as President and I have never heard these three words put together in a commercial; excellent and NEEDED, because people demand action in return for the vote in dire times (2) "a veteran," subtle but still front and center; hey voters like veterans? Ron Paul is your only choice. (3) a border SOLUTION offered, and a foreign policy niche locked-in deeper: no other candidate can say bring the troops home like Dr. Paul can (except lesser so by the pretty insignifcant Huntsman). Bravo.

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

This ad is tactical

It is aimed at the Republican base and it is perfect for now - and without putting other groups off.

Couldn't be much better.

Any Country That Doesn't Secure its Borders Ceases To Be

a Country ...The idea of securing the borders is to protect the sovereignty a nation from foreign invasion..

Do you know who is going through the borders?

Hard to believe

Hard to believe this site with so many RP internet fans.

http://www.youtube.com/politics?utm_source=PYV&utm_medium=YT...

Probably doesn't belong here but..

this is really a fun way to get a message across. Perhaps we need some megaphones, cameras and hugs of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqzcUMrDmjM

Please Favorite this video on Youtube

if enough people "favorite" it, it could show up in the "Top Favorited" category on youtube front page and probably give Ron more exposure.

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Dr.Ron Paul's 2002 Predictions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

I would start with

I would start with...Does America really need over 900 military bases in over 130 countries (show picture of bases around the world here) at the expense of the American people to defend and protect its people? (show pictures of Americans struggling with jobs, housing etc here)

There Are More Important Things to Emphasize

I don't know who's running Ron Paul's campaign, but they certainly aren't doing him any favors: first, an expensive commercial about Ronald Reagan and now securing our borders. Compared to what's happening with the #occupy movement, this is a secondary issue.
He should be making commercials about ending the wars and prosecuting Wall Street criminals, and until he does, he won't get any further $$$'s from me. I've had it with them pandering only to the right wingers. Why are they trying to get right wing Republicans on board when they can get an entire movement behind them? When it comes to ending wars, ending NAFTA, fighting Wall Street, legalizing marijuana, etc., Ron Paul has the edge.
Ron Paul needs some new advisers who will tell him what's really important to the people. These guys are harming his chances, and it makes me wonder just what they're trying to do to Ron Paul.

Thats ok.

Keep your money, I will contribute more lol. This commercial is perfect. Republican voters think Ron is soft on defense and this commercial counters that line of thought. Ron does anything but pander to right wingers. Ron Paul's advisors are just fine. If we did it your way, Ron would be at 3% of the vote. Ron is a convservative Republican, get over yourself lefty.

It's very simple

Ron Paul is running as a Republican. He needs to win over the Republican base to win. Hang in there, he will follow your advice AFTER the Republican nomination is secured.

But he can win the nomination

But he can win the nomination by getting independents to vote in the primary while bringing a healthy dose of liberals with him. Independents make up the largest voting segment. The Neo-cons aren't coming and won't until it is Paul vs Obama. It is pointless to continue to try to convince them - they are brainwashed, any attempts at trying to change their views only reinforces their conditioning.

These are people who at debates and straw polls won't even cheer Paul even when he says stuff they should agree with. They are hardened.

I somewhat agree with this.

I somewhat agree with this. The two universal messages should be END THE WARS and END THE FED.

Nobody

cares about the stupid socialist occupy fake movement, or their demands for free everything at the expense of other Americans.
They are trash.

I don't know what you were thinking, Ron, but....

You just lost my donation to the next money bomb. "Securing" the borders is not libertarian. It's not even Republican. It's "coward." Sounds like something a Democrat trade unionist would do.

Maybe if I forget about this horrible ad by the time of the following next bomb, I'll donate again. Nobody but right wing cranks has a problem with an open border. If an "illegal" alien commits a crime, and gets deported, I'm fine with the death penalty if they come back again and get caught at it. But we don't need any damned fence or checkpoints. Every time I have to pass through any sort of customs checkpoint I want to spit.

Time to get rid of US Customs, and ICE, and let the complex issues of illegal immigration fall into the hands of local and state authorities.

Anybody brutally tough on criminal aliens is OK in my book, but anybody tough on non-criminal aliens who are simply without papers is a douchebag in my book.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Really

Then property rights must be over-rated as well. ie. people living along or near the border.

donvino

what a hardcore assumption

So you aren't going to donate for our last chance in history, simply because he says in his commercial "start securing our borders". So it is going to be the federal government? or is it going to be Texas's national guard that finally gets to come back. Or, as a veteran maybe he understands that you have to change policy to stop giving incentives for them to come here. you are so cool.. just dont donate if you can, because ron paul doesn't deserve your donation

Uh... people are being killed

Uh... people are being killed and kid-napped on our borders.

Well, let's be honest. These are his advisors speaking

He's shown that he isn't a border nazi in the past, and probably is closer to your position. This is just a case of him giving into his advisors to win over the typical conservative vote. And yes, this is the overwhelmingly predominant conservative position right now, though I agree with you it is not the issue they make it. I sympathize with those who point out that illegal immigration is creating a burden on local communities & does bring drug violence (as Dr Paul does), but there are better solutions--such as getting rid of local government's socialist programs & ending the "drug war".

The reality is, the reason there are criminals dominating the border is because of the drug war, which Ron would end. The US government is involved up to the neck in the narcotics trafficking, & it is so lucrative that it will not end until we get someone like Ron Paul elected.

So don't let this get to you. We have much bigger fish to fry.

Not sure this merely his advisors speaking

I want to have faith in Dr. Paul, but sometimes I think his own faith in liberty falters in the face of bogeymen like illegal immigration. It's only illegal in the sense it's been declared illegal the way illegal drugs have been declared illegal.

The bottom line for me is that Ron Paul is taking sides in a complex issue, taking the side against individual liberty to go wherever one pleases.

The concept of a 'secure' border counters my personal ideal of an open, unsurveilled border. If the French don't need border protection then neither to Americans. US authorities are more threatening to my freedom than Mexican citizens are, obviously.

Borders offend the libertarian in me. The purpose of a border around a libertarian republic is demarcation where more authoritarian governments are not welcome: don't try to govern people on this side of the border because they refuse to be governed without consent.

You make good points, though. And this new commercial doesn't change the fact that Dr. Paul in my mind is the only fully qualified candidate from any party. But frankly I don't think his campaign is risking loss of support from racist bozos for being "soft on border security" as badly as it is risking support from libertarians and immigrants by posing as "strong on borders."

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

France has borders!

And they are very hard to penetrate.
Compare France with a state, and the EU with the USA.
Does for instance Texas have/need a border defense for its neighboring states?
The best you can expect as a libertarian in the current world is liberty in your own country.
If that is accomplished, a very difficult task already, then you can spread it by example.

open borders

I will never understand this open border mentality. This is how the globalists want you to think. We have open borders now. The result is disasterous. The border states are heavily infested with foreign criminals, gangsters, murders, and drug cartel terrorits. The border states are in deep financial trouble dealing with all the violent crime these illegals commit. If you are not an American citizen, you are only a guest here. You have no right to be here. If you want to be a guest here, you must come on our terms, according to our laws, or you are a trespasser and an invader. Maybe not all libertarians would agree, but that's the only way we can maintain our national identity and security. A nation without borders is no nation at all.

nr

Re: open borders

On how Paul's stance is inconsistent with libertarianism Marc Stevens explains here: http://marcstevens.net/articles/propaganda-from-dr-ron-paul-...

And how there is no such thing as an "illegal alien" here:

http://marcstevens.net/articles/theres-no-such-thing-as-an-i...

"I hate government as much as government hates freedom, and that's a lot." - Mike Malin

Check out my PowerPoint: http://www.slideshare.net/anarcholibertarian/why-do-they-hat...

And my Ron Paul vs. Lincoln video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi

Re: open borders

The violent crime is caused mainly by the war on (some) drugs. And statistics that show that Mexicans have a higher rate of crime have only a grain of truth. Most Mexicans that come here are in their 20's, which is the group that commits above average crime no matter what country they are from.

In any event, immigration is a property rights issue and with property rights any community could have a covenant to deal with it. The problem for libertarians is that people believe the arbitrary border of the US government is legitimate because they believe in the myth of the social contract:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/shaffer14.html

To quote and paraphrase Boston T. Party:

"So how would a libertarian society solve the dilemma of [immigration] without it being coercively enforced by a central government? Through the proliferation of voluntary communities owning private property, each with their own type of covenant restricting or prohibiting what they see as harmful behaviors.

If a particular covenant is disagreeable to you, then you don't have to live there or visit there. [Covenants are signed and witnessed contracts. No one alive today signed the social contract of the USA]

In time we would see covenants that are drug-free (both religious and secular), pot-smoker communities, Renaissance re-enactment communities, no illegal immigration communities, open immigration communities, etc.

Every individual would have a choice of many different communities which reflected their personal morals. Each lifestyle community would compete for members. Folks would judge the tree by the fruit, and I suspect that communities embracing harmful behaviors would putrefy and fizzle out. Even if they didn't, their pathology would remain contained, which is the next best thing."

"I hate government as much as government hates freedom, and that's a lot." - Mike Malin

Check out my PowerPoint: http://www.slideshare.net/anarcholibertarian/why-do-they-hat...

And my Ron Paul vs. Lincoln video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi