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Government Theft in Action - Civil Forfeiture

"Imagine you own a million-dollar piece of property free and clear, but then the federal government and local law enforcement agents announce that they are going to take it from you, not compensate you one dime, and then use the money they get from selling your land to pad their budgets—all this even though you have never so much as been accused of a crime, let alone convicted of one.

Learn more: http://www.ij.org/massforf"

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meekandmild's picture

Remember the Liberty Dollar

FBI raid on Liberty Dollar confirmed without explanation
http://www.gata.org/node/5739

Don't Steal, The government...

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What you have seen in this video

is a commercial advertisement for IFJ.
Dosen't have any basis for judgement.

Baloney that there is no

Baloney that there is no basis for judgment in this clip. This clip is full of facts. The clip succinctly explains civil forfeiture, and uses a very specific example as an illustration. The government is attempting to seize the motel that Russ Caswell’s family has operated for two generations even though the Caswell’s have committed no crimes and are not even accused of breaking any law. Rather the purported rationale for taking the mom and pop business is because a tiny number of people who stayed at the motel were arrested for drugs. If that were not bad enough, there also exists an ulterior motive for the looting of the business as well. The clip points out the very ones who are bestowed with police power to seize your assets through civil forfeiture are the ones who get to keep the loot and profit from it. Talk about a total conflict of interest and incentive for abuse.

The fact that this public service announcement was produced by the nonprofit, public interest band of litigators for liberty, Institute for Justice, who represent victims without fee does not somehow magically mean that it is devoid of any information or issues worthy of our judgment, outrage or concern. To the contrary, civil forfeiture is a very real and existing threat to your civil liberties that is not only highly prone to abuse and fraud, but financially incentivized to commit such abuse. This clip does an excellent job of exposing the abuse and danger.

Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl

Downsize DC addresses this quite well

and you can use their 'Educate the Powerful' system free once you register.

www.downsizedc.org/blog/asset-forfeiture-on-the-rise

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

More lies.

That can't happen. That can't happen here. This is the United States of America. That kind of stuff just doesn't happen here. OMFG!!! What have we come to?

Wow, wow, wow

bump for others to see, truly sad how out of control things are.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

hmm

this didn't go to the top, one more try, since it is important to know.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

Don't worry!

The gov't will be giving that money out to other people who want "free stuff", just like OWS is demanding.
Just how else would OWS get their "free stuff"?
That's right, the gov't is going to steal it for them...from us.

Ok, really?

This has been an ongoing scam and collusion for local jurisdictions to gain more income using FEDERAL power backing for police State and you want to somehow tie even this to OWS looking for "free stuff"?

I suggest you might want to check who it is here looking for their "free stuff" on who's backs.

THIS type of blatant disregard for personal liberty and slave making is exactly WHAT makes people think maybe they should have a right to go DEMAND the FEDS give them something instead of favoring the thieves who are coming and stealing their property, taxes from their paychecks, local jobs from their communities, etc. (they only know they want redress)

If we don't understand why the system feeds upon itself and creates the fascist/marxist dynamic while most of the sheeple are naive to the entire drama, we certainly cannot help expose it by merely sitting and looking at a group (like you seem to do ows) in disgust.

OWS has this.

Hates Capitolist domination
Has A Chanting Crowd
Comes from Liberation Square
Hates National Borders
Hates Armies
Hates Corporations
Hates Police
Hates LAWS and Debts of Police
They claim to be 99%, but I am not in it.
They claim to cling to THEIR CHANGE.
Their Revolution

Sounds un-American to me, and their speaker is a "guest" in this Country of mine.

Ok, I see.

So OWS demands for even more theft and oppression so that they can get more stolen goods that the gov't lifted from the people is now a good thing?

And supporting this "group" and its sit-in on the sidewalks, begging the PTB for more stolen goodies is somehow going to get anything better? And it will somehow reduce this oppression against the people, and create less stealing of people's properties via forfeiture or any other manner?

I think you are a little confused.
When people demand a "free lunch" from the gov't, then the gov't is going to have to take the money from the rest of us, by any means possible, including forfeitures.

Now you are reaching.

I support people looking to end the current felonious system.

That means all of it.

Wanting to help ows movement attendees (some who are of free-er minds) see that an end to all of it and not more DEMANDS from IT does not in any way constitute whatever you have conjured in your rant.

I suppose our difference here is that you seem to lump the entire attendee-ship together as some "mass" of one think, much as people and the media did with the tea party. It was wrong then and it is wrong now.

Should we be wary, of course. Should we not look to build INDIVIDUAL alliance?

Multiple wrongs don't make a right.

Theft from the people to give to banks, and theft from the people to give to OWS demands, are exactly the same thing.

Neither is to be supported by any freedom proponent.

As for the suggested attempt to "help" individual OWS members to shed their oppressive ways and become freedom lovers, that's up to each person to decide, and I'm not stopping anyone from doing it.

But I do point out that this IS a controlled event from the left, which opposes freedom, and presence of more people at the events will bolster the left's publicity impact with this event, which is counterproductive to the freedom cause, and more likely to gain progress for their "demands" which is again counterproductive to the freedom cause.

It is not surprising to find that collectivists act collectively, and are therefore unlikely to shed their leftist positions for much time(even if you are temporarily successful), as the peer group pressure from their collective will herd them back in. So the potential results from such efforts are very questionable, likely to be miniscule, and unlikely to retain the few converts which might be made.
Essentially we have some optimistic believers here who think that they can waltz into a demonstration run by the most practiced, networked, and ruthless political organizations that the world has ever seen, and just walk away with their support like magic.
I would suggest door-to-door campaigns of the general public would yield better results than this hostile mob, and also avoid media "guilt-by-association" to this mob which will NOT do us any favors in gaining the Republican nomination.

That's my take

Your take is noted

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I have a feeling this whole thing is not going to go as "planned" by the "hidden organizers" and that the sheep they expected to attend are NOT the ones who will be arriving.

Hence I am MUCH more optimistic than you.

And we can leave it at that.

Have a wonderful day today BigT! (I sincerely mean that)

I'm with you BIGT

OWS is strictly socialists claiming a revolution of people who hate The Capitolist system, which they want to steal money from ,so we can all go bust. Then we can have World Peace because we get to ALL cry together.

Out of the sea of populous comes the false prophet.
With many lieing wonders.