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Israel is the reason why we are constantly fighting an uphill battle.

Romney is pro-Israel and pro-war in the middle east, which Israel loves because it guarantees Americans will die in her wars not Israeli's.

Perry was dancing with rabbi's and saying it's the underlying duty to his religion to support Israel. We knew he was gonna run for president because he went on a trip to Israel in 2009 to go and kiss the ring and promise his obeisance.

Bachmann is an Israeli firster all the way. Never mind she went on a kibbutz in Israel when she was a teen. She spouts how god will be angry if we don't support Israel.

Huntsman has close ties with Rabbi Benny Zippel in securing Israeli business partners for Utah, and he is the reason he got the job as ambassador to China.

Cain at every debate is talking about how Israel and America should be "shoulder to shoulder and you can't see the daylight between."

Santorum is the biggest war drummer of them all. Always wanting to go to war with Lebanon, Iraq and Iran to secure Israel's interests.

Ron Paul dances around the Israel problem really well.
He says he wants to end all foreign aid including Israel. Taking away that $3-4 billion handout from American taxpayers is a threat to Israel. Ron Paul doesn't pander for the Jewish vote either.

It's very clear whomever does the most sucking up to Israel is the most likely one to win president. As we just saw with Newt Gingrich, he goes out last night beating the war drum to attack Iran and this morning, shocker he is in 3rd place in some poll. AIPAC just paid for a trip for 81 freshmen congress criters to visit Israel for indoctrination. When Netanyahu made his speech in front of congress he received 25 STANDING OVATIONS. Unheard of for any American politician.

And pay attention for this little tidbit count how many time you will hear anyone criticize Israel and not pay for it like Helen Thomas (forced retirement).



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"Ron Paul dances around the Israel problem really well.
He says he wants to end all foreign aid including Israel. Taking away that $3-4 billion handout from American taxpayers is a threat to Israel. Ron Paul doesn't pander for the Jewish vote either."

Ron has been upfront about his position on foreign aid, no money or entangling alliances as the Founders advised. Cutting foreign aid from all countries( not just Isreal) would actually benefit them and doesn't look like much of a threat. Israel's enemies get more money than Isreal combined and the fact they possess the best military in the region, makes you wonder why people think they are so vulnerable.

But I do agree that there is some force that is trying to push us into further conflict in the Middle which will further strain this bad economy.

Rothschild NWO

In November of 1917, as the Russian Rothschilds were on the verge of signing a peace treaty with the Germans, the British Foreign Secretary, a Fabian co-conspirator, and friend of the Rothschilds, Arthur Balfour, wrote a letter to Lord Lionel Rothschild asking him to accept his Declaration wherein the Jews could be re-instated into their ancient homeland. In the next month, the English conquer Jerusalem. Then, just after the War, the Rothschilds set up a Foreign Affairs office in Britain and in the United States, with more to come in other nations, and filled them with Illuminatists under their care and having the job of ratcheting the governments of the world into submission to the Rothschild plan for Globalism. So, you see, the restoration of the Jews to the Holy Land is part and parcel with the establishment of the Rothschild New World Order because that New Order is intended to be the Biblical Millennium as per a Jewish-occult vision.

http://www.tribwatch.com/redshield.htm

Israel's constant backstabbing

Israel attacked the USS Liberty...they never got in trouble and army generals were threatening the ships crew not to say anything.

Israel killed an American citizen in cold blood on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla last May. Not a single government official decried that crime.

“The Israeli government is actively engaged in military and industrial espionage in the United States.” That was the conclusion of a Pentagon administrative judge in 2006.(http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/paying-off-israel...)

Israel did 9/11 with the complicit help of certain elements in our own government. See Carl Cameron's 4 part series on a massive Israeli spy ring being busted leading up to 9/11...http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.php
5 Dancing Israelis.
The two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives was discovered around the George Washington Bridge ... The FBI ... says enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge." Urban Moving Systems (the van) was Israeli owned and the owner packed up his business and left for Israel soon after 9/11.
And the only people arrested on 9/11 were Mossad agents (all of that which is now classified)

Johnathan Pollard famed Israeli spy who stole details of our entire nuclear arsenal and gave it to Israel which in turn sold the information to the Soviet Union. This also lead to hundreds of CIA agents deaths. And still today he enjoys his time at Club Med with Bernie Madoff, while Netanyahu is constantly demanding his release.

Selling F-15 engine technology to China

And yet despite all of that, they are still our number one friend in the world. Our only friend in the middle east.

Zion's Ad : OWS is Anti-Semitic.

Right-wingers accuse Occupy Wall Street of Nazism,-
http://maxkeiser.com/2011/10/14/right-wingers-accuse-occupy-...
watch from 2:30 min, ad arrange by Republican Neo-Cons, "emergency committee for israel".

for zion's threat see - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=16166
and, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Don't know about that

Who is more immoral; the one taking the bribes or the one giving them?

As RP said, 'Americans are now immoral'. Therefore, can't see Israel being the number one issue.

Americans need to stop the idol worship and get some substance for one thing.

donvino

Israel gets more airtime in our debates

Than california, OWS protests, etc etc combined. The candidates all try to one up each other for their support for a country that isn't part of this country. One of the most blatant displays was when the discussion of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon was brought up and RP said they still wouldn't be able to use it if they got one. The follow up question is what if they use it against Israel. We should just make Israel a state and all it a day.....at least then the rest of the world would not be able to question our support and maybe California, new York, Florida etc would be treated equally.

This is an oldie but a goodie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0&feature=youtube_g...

jaseed's picture

51st State: Israel

Then they would fall under the 10th Amendment like the rest of the states. No special treatment. Great idea.

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson

re-post from another thread...it belongs here as well...

...the Neo-Cons #1 case for the illegitimacy of a Ron Paul Presidency is that we are anti-war(actually anti-undeclared, unconstitutional, Empire-reminiscent, doomed to bankrupt a nation, arrogant racist wars)...

In their eyes we are Pro-Iran, pro-Iran getting a nuclear weapon and wiping Israel off the face of the Earth with it...from here on out, this will be Romney's campaign-cry; we are pro-Iran and therefore IGNORANTLY pro-Muslim terrorism...remember what Chris Matthews said; "liberty for everyone doesn't always work"!(this is the Democrats pro-war excuse for Obama, NOT the pro-Republican crony capitalism criticism it was deliberately MEANT to sound like)...don't be FOOLED

Just WATCH...Obama is probably the establishment Republican's choice for President again(not Ron Paul!!!), because he and his administration are pro-war!!!

Romney was set up to fail; and he is(and the other candidates are) okay with that because raking in cash from dumbed-down straight-party conservatives through selling books, going on speaking tours, and not having your family live in a fish-bowl(which apparently Michelle Obama LOVES) is a hell of a lot easier!

You're absolutely correct!

It's the major reason. Almost everyone I know who's a professing Christian and registered Republican told me that Israel is the reason they would not vote for Paul. If they actually read the Bible, and in context, they'd realize that the only thing that modern-day Israel has in common with the Israel of the Bible is the name.

It's just a matter of time before Dispensationalism, which has infiltrated the Church (and as a result, a huge segment of the GOP) in the last several decades, fades away and true Christians wake up and realize they've been duped. But in the meantime, it's very sad for America and I believe especially sad for our troops.

nah.

It's not just Israel. It contributes, sure.

But face it, this country has a severe case of BootLicking-itis.

And in all likelihood, it's terminal.

You got bootlickers on the left, and you got bootlickers on the right. You got bootlickers in the middle. You got apolitical bootlickers, corporate bootlickers, dirt poor bootlickers and bootlickers in high places.

But for most, it's about living vicariously through your government. Since most of the sheeple in this country are slaves, up to their eyeballs in debt, and gave up on the founding principles of liberty decades ago, if they themselves can't be unstoppable, unbeatable, and number one, ...then they at least want prefer the perception that their country is all those things.

because they belong to their country, then if the country is number one, they by association are number one.

bah ah ah ah. dang sheep.

it takes strength, confidence and perseverance to give all that bootlicking up, and be free.

Israel plays a part, but I

Israel plays a part, but I think it's wrong to ignore the broader problem with Ron Paul (in the eyes of the average Republican), which is his perceived "isolationism." The candidates do suck up to Israel, because of the AIPAC lobby money, and the fact that they are probably our most threatened ally. But rest assured, these same people would be more than happy to go to war with North Korea over South Korea or with China over Taiwan, just as these same types of people went to war in Korea and Vietnam to stop the communists. So while Israel is the most politically sensitive aspect of the topic, it isn't the entire thing. As a former mainstream neoconservative Republican, I can attest to this. The broader philosophy is where people have to be converted.

If AIPAC has enough money to bribe

our congress...why are they receiving 3-4 billion per year (that we know of, could be more), of U.S. taxpayers money?

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

I'm not sure how that is

I'm not sure how that is relevant or contradictory to the point I was making

It should be relevant...

when taking money from the U.S. taxpayers....You said....
"The candidates do suck up to Israel, because of the AIPAC lobby money"...and I said...If AIPAC has so much money that they can bribe our congress...why do we give Israel 3-4 billion a year when AIPAC shoud give it to them. Americans are real fools but, they are coming around....I should also add that I take Ron's position on this matter that we should stop aid to both Israel and the Arabs and anyone else for that matter.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

I agree, I guess I wasn't

I agree, I guess I wasn't clear on what you were trying to say. But yes, I think we should end all aid to foreign countries.

Real Bani Israel : Israelite origin of the pashtuns

EDIT: this link is more clearer than the one I posted below,-
Israelite origin of the pashtuns and pathans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ_oMp8I-k8&feature=related
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I saw an astonishing video, a research done by jewish scholars. The narrator is frank & honest about his work. He went to Kabul & Khyber Pass, spoke with the tribes who live there, observed their names, life style & garments, practices, etc.
Pathan (Pushtoon) Bani Israel Connection - Sociological Perspective
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYIBGuwq4vk&feature=player_em...

There are even the Yuezhi of China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuezhi

Pathans (Pashtuns) are the descendents of the Tocharians.

You can even go further and find the Children of Dan in Ireland in the bronze age, arriving after the collapse of Mycenean civilization, first fighting against Pharoah and then taking off in the Mediterranean to unknown points.

You can find the eburones (hapiru) in Belgium in the Iron Age.

(eburon is another name for the Yew. which is the evergreen that appears on the Lebanese flag as well as the best tree to make a long bow from.)

children of Israel, researched report.

you made no comments on the contents of the video =
Israelite origin of the pashtuns and pathans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ_oMp8I-k8&feature=related

their names, practices, garments, claimed ancestry, physical features, biblical references, etc.

I will not deny transactions with Tocharians, but the Pashtuns are the closest to the Tribes of Israel, in the whole world, more so than the western branches.

But yes, I know some Pakis....

...who say the same thing that the Pathans are (or were) really Jews.

There are blond and green eyed Pathans.

But that's more the heritage of the Greek Empire I think than the Jewish diaspora. Example, the famous Afghani woman from the famous National Geographic cover from the 80s with green eyes. Brahmin Indians with green eyes, etc.

Well DNA testing and Haplogroups .....

....will ultimately tell what the real genetic history is, I guess.

Cost of war document...really breaks things down nicely

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf

I particularly liked "Figure 1. Boots on the Ground in Afghanistan and Iraq, 2001-2010". It shows how Obama didn't send troops home as he promised. At best, he moved a bunch of troops from Iraq to Afghanistan and God knows where else.

Paul should (and probably has) say

"WE ARE BROKE! THE GOVERNMENT IS NOW BORROWING MORE THAN ITS INCOME!

In the past decade, we have sunk nearly 1.5 trillion dollars into these wars.

We simply cannot afford these wars. We never could. Nearly all other countries have withdrawn most of their support because they can't afford it.

With all the market turmoil going on around the world, it is insane to overextend ourselves like this.

Obama promised to end the war, to send the troops home, but all he did was move them from Iraq to Afghanistan. Overall, Obama has kept the number of soldiers as high as Bush...over 140,000 US young men and women are in harm's way. Why?

Are we, the United States of America in any danger?

No.

Do we really need to be there to protect Israel?

No. Israel can handle themselves.

So why are we there?

Our great military is being used as mercenaries...for mega corporations, for the elites. And that should never happen.

Further, these wars are being used to take away our freedoms, take away our securities, and force us to work for less. Wars have always been used to do this. To break unions, to make people work harder for less.

All over the world, great standards of living and cultures are being systematically demolished. And for what? What is the end goal of this?

Who set up all these great nations' economies to fail at once?

These are the questions I will fervently address as President."

The problem with that is:

a huge percentage of the people in this country have no clue that the federal government is broke. They think the government has an endless supply of money. Sadly this is partially true thanks to the federal reserve printing money out of thin air. They just do not realize all that "money" has to be repaid by taxpayers.
A video comes to mind where a black woman is in line to get her "free money" from Obama. They ask her where she thinks Obama is getting the money and she says "I don't know, I guess from his stash."

Formerly rprevolutionist

It really is a major problem

It really is a major problem and the heart of a lot of ills for America. I get really tired of hearing questions about Israel during debates for president. RON PAUL supporters are not ANTI-SEMITIC or racists! I just support America first and foremost. Good post!

ANSELM ROTHSCHILD
"Give me the power to issue a nation's money; then I do not care who makes the law."