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AMAZING! Fox News Panel Discuss Parts Of Ron Paul's Budget Plan

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Someone needed to say

That 200,000 government jobs at average salary over $130,000 means at least 650,000 private sector jobs at $40,000. I'd rather increase jobs to those who actually make, grow or produce something! Enough guv't cheese for these hacks.


Jonathan Hoenig

I just went on the Facebook page for Jonathan Hoenig, the winner in the top left, and thanked him for his support of Dr. Paul's plan. Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea for a few of us to do so.


Johnathan Hoenig

It looks like this guys is the real deal:


Charles Gregory


This was a slam against

This was a slam against Paul's plan, not fair coverage. "They will use the money to decorate." What BS.. the money DOES indeed go back to us in the form of less debt we need to pay. This is a shill filled right wing garbage show to further convince republicans not to pay any attention to Paul's new plan that's getting attention as of late and it makes our job harder when people are misinformed about Paul's ideas. It's about the facts and they distort them widely in this.

Critics of RP's PLan

The best the critics of RP's Plan say, is it will eliminate 235,000 gov.'t bureaucratic jobs ! Yes it will but the point that needs to be driven home is it will free up the private sector which will create million of good private sector jobs. It is about JOBS, JOBS, JOBS ! RP and most of the candidates propose U.S. companies with a trillion plus dollars sitting offshore would not be taxed if they brought it back to America. I like the way Santorem states it, by saying they will not be taxed on bringing the money back if they invest it in manufacturing jobs. I would like to see Ron stress that point because the number one issue the American people are concerned with is JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.

Fair piece...

But Im not going to jump for joy because of ONE news story when these sort of pieces happen all day every day about the other candidates. But it was a good piece, covered by all sides. My favorite part was when JBL called out the liberal lady for her blatent propaganda. She went into this segment with a specific agenda that was both deliberate and insideous. Thankfully there were some other people there to call BS on her 'save the kids and the animals from Ron Paul' gibberish. People like her create the left vs right, us vs them, mentality in America. They erase the facts and turn every rational discussion into an emotion-based sound bite. ''Either you love animals and hate oil or you are evil. The debt...what debt?'' Idiot woman.

Is this math right?

175 Billion = $175,000,000,000/
235 K = 235,000
Per Job $744,680

Is that what the overhead per job is? Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I was just using the numbers that one guy threw out.

"If the message is Liberty, promote it shamelessly!"

We are hurtling toward the

We are hurtling toward the cliff at full speed, and some of these people are worried about not getting coffee all over the leather seats when Dr. Paul hits the brakes.

Glad to hear some voices here recognize that we "simply can't afford it anymore".

Rise up and take the power back
It's time the fat cats had a heart attack
You know that their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend.

We are hurtling toward the

We are hurtling toward the cliff at full speed, and some of these people are worried about not getting coffee all over the leather seats when Dr. Paul hits the brakes.

Glad to hear some voices here recognize that we "simply can't afford it anymoe".

Rise up and take the power back
It's time the fat cats had a heart attack
You know that their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend.

Christmas just came early in my house...

Holy mackerel, that was superb. What a nice way to cap off a long day at work.

Upper left hand side - you win.
Upper right, love the states comment!
Lower right - there would be a heck of a lot less poor kids under this plan baby.
Middle lower - cut the cancer out my friend - you must remove the WHOLE tumor, not just half, or it will come back (the good DOCTOR knows that!).

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Restore the Foundations - "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?"

I believe that was the founders intent...

After fighting a hard-won battle they said, "finally, now we can devise a document to F-over those poor kids and give Smokey Bear the finger."

If men are good, you don't need government; if men are evil or ambivalent, you don't dare have one.

That was great! A good 6 or 7

That was great! A good 6 or 7 minutes talking about Paul's plan. He is becoming more and more legitimate in more and more people's eyes with every passing day. Woohoo!


And did you hear even Sarah Palin is speaking well of him now, and the other day we had Limbaugh and Hannity commenting positively, and for what it's worth, Santorum now admits Ron knows what he's talking about.


We're really making progress! We could win this!

That young fella who looks like Alfred E. Newman...

got it absolutely right. Sounds to me like these propagandist are beginning to really "listen" rather than hear what they think they heard....Go Ron.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey

Blood squirting out of my eyes


I had a flashback of Redd Foxx on Sanford and Son, holding his heart and yelling, "I'm coming, Elizabeth!"

The dark-haired lady boo-hooing just about gave me a heart-attach and stroke. Hey lady, the poor will get a lot poorer and the parks will be in much worse shape if we don't get control of the debt and spending NOW. Why on earth don't people get this??? Arrgghhhhhh!!

On the plus side, I think it is fantastic they are talking about it at least.




This is huge stuff!!!!

Cutting 235,000 Jobs Through Attrition

Ron Paul has stated numerous times that the departments will be phased out through retirees and attrition. These cuts cannot happen overnight and without Congressional approval. Ron Paul's plan is the right choice because it gets the serious ball of austerity rolling down the right path. We must take it on the chin with short term pain or it will be disaster. Without Ron Paul's leadership and direction the name of our country will be The United states of Greece-iaca.

Ron Paul 2012


Ok here...

is the scoop. Both CNN and MSNBC have selected Romney as the winning horse to face Obama. Both outlets aim for higher ratings with Romney as GOP nominee.

After Ames straw poll, Fox and Fiends backed Perry with 48 hours of none stop Perry show. Fox was betting on Perry both as nominee to face Obama and also for the ratings.

After Perry was exposed to be a douche and stumbled all over against Romney, Fox and Fiends decided to change strategy and go with Herman Cain. (Remember how Fox did a grand coverage of Cain winning the Florida straw poll?)

It turns out that Fox and Fiends had to go back to the drawing board for another candidate. Herman Cain was inspired by John Bolton but doesn't know what a Neo-Conservative is!? During his last debate he flip flopped all over the map. Simply put, Cain does not have political experience to take on the sea dogs of DC.

Alas, Fox and Fiends made the tough choice and now have decided to go with the good Dr. Expect more coverage of Ron Paul on Fox. This is by far no accident for Santorum, a (former) Fox analyst, Sara Palin a current Fox analyst, Hannity or even Rush talking smooth Jazz about Dr Paul.

Whether this is a good thing, that is remained to be seen.

Also the Pew research turns out to be a disaster for all cable outlets after they were exposed for their coverage of Dr. Paul. It was also no surprise how Anderson tried to do a damage control and how MSNBC now decided to invite Ron Paul on MTP.

The Libertarian Party, irrelevant since 1971.

agree with you except MTP invites all of the candidates

just a good thing he isn't on during a holiday like in 2007 (1-2 days before Christmas).

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Hadn't heard a word about it

Hadn't heard a word about it til now. Thanks for the heads up.

Dr. Paul's got them talking now!

BRILLIANT move by the campaign to lay out a specific plan to cut spending.

Does Dr. Paul advocate abolishing the federal income tax?

Now THAT would stimulate the economy and cause more demand for goods and services which would cause more demand for JOBS to supply those goods and services.

So I would think his trillion dollar cut would have to come with some sort of tax cut as well.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Just saw this in the Financial Times Oct 18

Median gross disposable household income:

Greece Euro 41,400 or $56,718
Ireland Euro 53,500 or $73,295
Portugal Euro 32,400 or $44,388
Spain Euro 41,000 or $56,170
Italy Euro 42,600 or $58,362
Germany Euro 42,600 or 58,362

The best number I could find for the US is $50,300. The European countries provide free healthcare for their citizens. We pay for their defense and our own healthcare. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

Plano TX

would ike to see the link

to the #s. thanks

I have the hard copy...

... includes online subscription but need log-in to access. The euro numbers are verbatim... I converted at 1.37 rate applicable on Friday

Plano TX

Right there in the Fox video

It said, average US salary was $39K.

Whenever you hear the phrase "it would be more reasonable to"

you should immediately substitute "call me a clueless a-hole" for whatever they said after that phrase. It would actually make their statement more valuable.

When people start talking about trimming instead of cutting, they are fighting for the status quo. At best, they are talking about pulling back the throttle of a passenger plane diving toward the ground. Usually, however, they actually end up pushing the throttle forward.

Be wise as Serpents...gentle as Doves...

Something's up with Mt. Zion. With all of them in unison giving Ron Paul his due...something's in the works. It goes beyond ratings interests.

"Give a man a gun, and he could rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he could rob the world."

ya know

I've often thought the power elite, who now own the real money (silver, gold, etc) do want Ron Paul. They have their fall guys in place AND with Ron Paul, we GET America back to prosperity and a currency backed by what..

Gold and Silver.

Thus, making the power elite that much richer. It's reasonable if you believe they are after POWER (which is money) and not the destruction of mankind. It's also possible if there truly is an intelligent power elite playing chess with the worlds economy.