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The Hill: Ron Paul Should run as a Third Party candidate

By Brent Budowsky - 10/28/11 09:33 AM ET

Whether liberals, conservatives and true populists like it or not (and many do not), the most likely outcome of the nominating process is a general-election battle between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. This opens up a humongous opening for Dr. Ron Paul to run as a third-party candidate.

It has been said of Mitt Romney that he has been a liberal, a moderate and a conservative. What will the next Mitt Romney be? Is there any serious conservative who trusts him? Of course not. If Ron Paul runs for president as a third-party candidate against Obama and Romney, he changes the entire dynamic of the campaign and totally transforms the national debate.

Ron Paul would pick up significant new support running against two establishment figures such as Obama and Romney. He would win support from a wide tier of voters who would see Romney as a distrusted, establishment, old-Wall Street and banking country-club Republican. Romney is exactly the kind of Republican the legitimate Tea Party voters, true conservatives and genuine libertarians oppose as the dominating influence on the Republican Party.

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The author's is a terrible

The author's is a terrible idea. People are too dumb to pick a 3rd party candidate. The Democrat or Republican label gives legitimacy to a candidate's name. Its GOP or nothing. Lets face it, Romney is handsome, tall, good hair, and has had zero substance in the debates. He's the front runner. This is what people consider to be an ideal candidate. For Ron Paul to win, he has to penetrate the skulls of the brain dead and convince them there are more important things in a candidate than good hair. Having to begin with such a basic re education means it will take that much longer before he can start re educating on things like economics and the role of government. He sure isn't going to get the platform to do it as a 3rd party candidate.

Estes Kefauver (from Wikipedia)

"1952 election
Kefauver won all but three primaries, but failed to win nominationIn the 1952 presidential election, Kefauver decided to offer himself as a candidate for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. Campaigning in his coonskin cap, often by dogsled, Kefauver made history when, in an electrifying victory in the New Hampshire primary, he defeated President Harry S. Truman, the sitting President of the United States, prompting Truman to cease campaigning for renomination. Although Kefauver would go on to win 12 of the 15 primaries that were held that year, losing three to "favorite son" candidates, primaries were not, at that time, the main method of delegate selection for the national convention. Kefauver, therefore, entered the convention a few hundred votes shy of the needed majority. In the 1952 Democratic Party presidential primaries, Kefauver received 3.1 million votes, while the eventual 1952 Democratic presidential nominee, Illinois governor Adlai Stevenson, received only 78,000 votes. Yet "the Kefauver campaign for the nomination in 1952 became the classic example of how presidential primary victories do not automatically lead to the nomination itself."[5] Although he began the balloting far ahead of the other declared candidates, Kefauver eventually lost the nomination to Stevenson, the choice of the Democratic Party political bosses. Stevenson, a one-term governor who was up for reelection in 1952, had previously resisted calls to enter the race, but he was nominated anyway by a "Draft Stevenson" movement that had been energized by his eloquent keynote speech on the opening night of the convention. He would go on to lose the general election to General Dwight D. Eisenhower in a landslide."

[The insiders can still steal the nomination; so, don't rule out third party.]

awaiting RP on Lou Dobbs and Lou just

mentioned "we are going to see what Ron Paul says about 3rd party candidacy"

Happy everyone?!

LIVE link here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/185065/ron-paul-interview-today-w-l...

lets focus on winning Iowa

Ron Paul can win Iowa & win the GOP nomination.

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I agree with this. If Ron

I agree with this.

If Ron Paul can wind Iowa and some early states he has a shot.

If he doesn't win IA, NH, SC it is all over for him tin the GOP and he should bolt the GOP

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I don't agree

If Ron Paul cannot get the votes for a republican nomination, he cannot win third party. Saying he should run third party is an admission he is people's "second choice" not their first choice. It makes people hold off on voting for him in the primaries (instead voting for someone else in the Republican primary, to get their cake and eat it, too). It undermines the very idea that he is a credible candidate, and RP knows that -- thus why he is not pledging to do so if he doesn't get the nomination.

I don't think a Pro-Paul site should promote RP running third party. It is like an admission that we don't believe he has enough support. I think he can have enough support to win the primaries. I think he can win.

In a different political establishment that supports multi-party voting, or in earlier RP runs, it makes sense -- he might just be looking for a forum for ideas. In this political climate, it is an admission of us losing faith in RP. I don't endorse that.

If there were a large segment of 'true' libertarian democrats, this might work. But there aren't. There are dissatisfied democrats -- but I don't think they are informed enough to discern Ron Paul as a better candidate -- in a muddled field of Romney, Paul and Obama, they will likely shoot for the mediocre.

Oh well And we must not put

Oh well

And we must not put this kinda thing on Page One right?

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Too Soon to go Independent

The strategy of waiting this out a bit is preferable in my opinion. Just look at the GOP clowns running against Paul, they can hardly even carry his water they are so lacking in competitiveness.
Right now, they are their own worst enemies, let them shoot themselves in the foot. This time, I really do believe Ron has a good chance of getting the nomination. As we get closer to the elections the decision to stay or split off will become more apparent.

"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." -Mark Twain

STOP pushing articles about 3rd party runs

he is running NOW in the R party and we need to focus on NOW.

Sir, Yes Sir!!! Paulites

Sir, Yes Sir!!!

Paulites cannot tolerate differing opinions

We must all think alike

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Opinions are one thing

But the facts show that ballot access is too hard for 3rd party candidiates, and it would be even easier to marginalize him than the media already does.

That pretty much sums it up

If ever there was a time when the political stars have alligned, the time is now and the candidate is Ron Paul.

Be careful of the messenger

Budowsky has written unflattering articles in past about Dr. Paul and is not a fan. There is a motive behind the article IMO. This also follows closely behind Wolf Blitzer's blog post regarding Ron running as a 3rd party candidate and Brett Baier trying to pin him down on Fox.

These are attempts to marginalize him before any such decision needs to be made. He can win. There is no need to talk about a 3rd party run right now. He's in 3rd. Why doesn't Budowsky write an article about Huntsman running as a 3rd party candidate? Because he's acceptable. Dr. Paul is not for Budowsky thus he wants him out.

I agree that Ron Paul should

I agree that Ron Paul should run as a third party candidate however if a win looks bleak come the general election he needs to withdrawl to prevent Obama from winning another term. He will siphon off far more Republican votes than Democrat. I don't like Romney but Obama is just down right dangerous.

The Republican party will

The Republican party will never let Ron be their nominee, even if he gathers enough votes to win the nomination. I think Ron needs to run as a 3rd party candidate. It will spark that level of excitement from 2007-08 that this campaign has been lacking.

We are winning

Now you think the Hill is suddenly telling the truth... they want Ron Paul to be a spoiler.

Ron Paul knows that in 2007 through today, many people joined the GOP, look at the straw polls he's won.. CA.. he's got the nomination in CA. Why would he let those of us who followed him into the GOP down? We are now in, on committees and serving, why would he betray us?

If he betrays us, I for will will do what I can to make sure his third party sinks and burns or Indy, and I'm very good having spent 3 elections working for Nader's ballot access.

Ron Paul said JOIN THE GOP. JOIN US or be ashes.

Its not the whole GOP

It's the insiders who have done everything to discredit and ignore him. If he does not win the Republican primary, it's because the GOP with their talking heads in the media who have prevented it. Ron Paul is too cool to betray anyone. If he is denied the nomination because of the establishment corrupt neo-cons, he will not betray the American people by refusing a independent run.

Damn conspirators!!

Damn conspirators!!

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If Romney is a Republican, then I am not

Would ANY of Ron Paul's issues be addressed if all of his supporters backed Romney? Would Romney do anything to increase personal or financial liberty? Would he have the backbone to address the debt issue? Would he stop the obvious plans to invade Iran?

Voting for Romney in the General would just tell the GOP that, like the Tea Party, RP's supporters can be brought into the corporatist, militarist fold without changing GOP policy.

Bingo!

Bingo!

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