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Ventura: Americans Should Riot If Ron Paul Excluded From Debates

Former Governor would “seriously consider” VP role

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Thursday, November 3, 2011

Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura told the Alex Jones Show that Americans should riot in the streets if Ron Paul is excluded from the presidential debates if, as many expect, he ends up being the Libertarian Party candidate following the conclusion of the Republican nomination.

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I agree with Jesse Ventura.

I agree with Jesse Ventura. What are we to do if Ron and Jesse are on the L ticket, and the media refuses to allow them to debate the two other turds? Are we going to sit back like good little sheeple and allow it to happen, or are we going to set fires of feces on the steps of the debates?

Jesse's right.

There WILL be riots. Stop trying to sugar coat things. OWS Pheonix is VERY peaceful because of the THREAT of violence.
Scott Olsen is sitting in a hospital fighting for his life because Oakland police crossed the line. That won't happen in Phoenix.

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PETER SCHIFF!! for VP

I think Peter can tear anyone apart with common sense. The way he can keep calm and make the best rational points is Impressive. He went into a hostile environment on OWS and destroyed everyone of their arguments. The way he shinned during the anderson cooper interview recently was great.

Ventura's oars don't reach all the way into the water.

On a side note. The OWS group in Oakland is the most extreme branch of OWS that I have seen so far. It is not representative of the OWS movement as a whole, IMO.

There is clear video evidence of police provocateuring at the protests and a large SEIU presence as well. We must also consider that "hippie" (for lack of a better word)activism has a rich and lengthy history in the Bay Area. UC Berkely is right up the road.

I also want to point out that we should be highly skeptical, when a group of pinko commie types allegedly ransack a Whole Foods. I laughed when I read this. I shop at Whole Foods regularly. Pinko, commie, hippie, new ager types comprise much of the staff and a large part of the clientel at Whole Foods. I smell a rat. BTW, no offense if you fall into one of those groups I mentioned, just using the terms to make a point.

OK, I'm ready. Please feel free to jump in and call me a commie plant or whatever.

Its going to be Rand Paul for VP...

This is what I’ve heard hinted at and hoped for from the RP campaign:

Dr. Ron Paul – President of the USA
Rand Paul --Vice President of the USA
Andrew Napolitano – Attorney General of the USA
James Grant – Chairman of the Federal Reserve
Charles Goyette, Presidential Press Secretary
Tom Woods, Dept of State.
Peter Schiff, Sec of the Treasury
Treg Loyden, Presidential Speech Writer (hint, hint)

I can live with that!

*who would head the FBI? The CIA? Dept of Defense? -- yea, that is why their really scared.

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First of all, Dr. Paul would never make his VP choice until it is clear that he is in a solid 1st or second place position. Most do not announce their choices until the GOP primary race is over and there is a clear winner.

By the way, you forgot National Security Advisor and most importantly, who is going to be your Chief of Staff?

Jesse, 'Porky Pig' Benton...Ha!

What the devil is a Treg?

Would be awesome

The republicans and democrats would have a conniption over this.

Napolitano can go crazy on all the unconstitutional laws.

Schiff vs Congress would instantly become youtube classics.

Grant is perfect as the Fed chief, both in demeanor and expertise.

I don't see Ron selecting Rand as his VP. The media would spin that into some type of family coup on the government. I'm really not sure who fits the bill here. Whoever it is needs to match fairly closely to Ron on policy but have a very broad appeal.

I hereby nominate Tommy Chong to head up the DEA!

Yuk

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Jesse, This is Going To Be Used Against You Now..Stupid Move!

Jesse, what the hell are you thinking? Rioting in the streets, Are you kidding me. That is what Northcom wants. They'll slaughter us if we do that. Those marines don't play nice.

They are a force and Obama will use them to stomp out our guts.

Before you open your mouth Jesse, check with Dr. Paul and us. What the hell are we going to do? Destroy everything like the commies and socialists are doing here in the bay area.

I live near Oakland Ca. and man those bastards made a freaking mess. Garbage, sh$t everywhere, Whole Foods destroyed, Wells Fargo and the smell of pot everywhere (that part is good)

Hey Emalvini.....

Hope you're doing well my man.......

I agree with you that Venture calling for riots is silly.

But what people need to prepare themselves for is when the government brings down the Martial Law hammer in this country.

What will be the "event" that sets things in motion? Maybe a massive economic collapse? Maybe three or four suitcase nukes detonated at the same time in different parts of the country? Who knows...you can you just use your imagination.

And then the following executive Orders will be enacted...my fave is EO 11000

10995 - Seizure of all communications media in the United States

10997 - Seizure of all electrical power facilities, fuels and minerals, both public and private

10998 - Seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private, and all farms and farm equipment

10999 - Seizure of all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks, or any vehicles of any kind, along with total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

11000 - Conscription of U.S. citizens for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families, if deemed necessary.

11001 - Seizure of all health, welfare, and education facilities, public and private

11002 - Empowers the Postmaster to register all men, women, and children in the U.S.

11003 - Authorizes seizure of all airports and aircraft.

11004 - Seizure of any or all housing to facilitate forced relocation of citizens from areas declared "unsafe". Also to relocate entire communities.

11005 - Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways, and storage facilities, public and private

11050 - Provides the office of emergency planning complete authorization to put the above orders into effect in times of increased international tension, or economic or financial crisis.

It is when these EO's are enacted that things will get ugly. And it won't be riots.....it will be the American people rising up to rid themselves of a tyrannical government.

America was born out of bloodshed and rebellion.....the end of the empire will happen the same way. It's a question of when...not if. It's inevitable.

rioting No, marching and demonstrating Yes

He has a point, but he should be advocating peaceful protest. Liberty supporters might be decide it's time to get off of the internet and into the streets.

is that Willie Nelson

on the right in the pic? Now there's a VP!

At least Ventura speaks up boldly for Ron Paul

I wouldn't discount Jesse's support. He's a tough guy, and Ron Paul, while stoically tough, is also very meak. There is a good contrast here that could be exploited, if done right. Jesse speaks to the "tough guy" in the alpha male world. Being a former SEAL, his military accumen won't be challanged by the likes of Cain, Romney or Perry. Ron Paul's campaign throws Ron out in the world of spiteful press alone. He could use all the support he can get. Don't run it off.

alan laney

Ron Paul's campaign throws Ron out in the world of spiteful pres

Did you just write what I think you just wrote?
"Ron Paul's campaign throws Ron out in the world of spiteful press alone."

Are you saying paul's campaign staff does not assist when it comes to the spiteful press? Interesting, because he certainly needs press help as any candidate does. Issue is that he needs a business writer/strategy pr people advising RP on how to answer questions when asked "Does the media ignore rp?" RP has not had the best answers for that as that type of question goes into the marketing arena, whcih is not his best strength. Of course, that is fine, as one person cannot and should not do so much alone.

See below feedback on candiid comments - media strategy.

Do you think there is room to assist campaign in terms of media strategy? It appears when rp supporters get gungho like after ames straw poll, media grants him a few interviews and there are studies proving rp does not get much coverage as otherrs. But what is needed for a campaign to actually WIN is consistent media coverage as the other candidates receive.

Are others on board for a campaign to receive consistent media coverage?

bd

I don't see many

speaking up for Ron Paul, either from his campaign, or surrogate speakers. It's always Ron Paul standing there alone. Can't the campaign find anybody to endorse Ron Paul and hit the campaign trail with him? Even old Huckabee had Ted Nugent out there slinging hash. What happened to Barry Manilow? Couldn't they pull him in for a soundbite or two? Maybe Ron can state his case on his on, and he's doing a great job, but what a whammy if the campaign could drum up some well known speakers to endorse the platforms Ron stands for - freedom and liberty. That shouldn't be too hard.

alan laney

I nominate...

...Dave Mustaine (Megadeth front-man)

pls elaborate on who driving people away from rp?

jstellar - please clarify on who is driving people away because we should try to get this resolved and why are they driving away people?

are these volunteers or paid staff?

thanks.

bd

Here's another opportunist

seeking to ride the coat tails of the good doctor. Ventura is pretty brazen to suggest he would accept a VP position from Ron Paul. Kinda like a cart trying to lead the horse. Ventura makes his offer seem like he would be doing Ron Paul a big favor, instead of the other way around.

If I sound too harsh on Ventura, it's because when he was in the spotlight several years ago he gave little to no attention to Ron Paul. A strong endorsement from him back then would have been helpful. Instead, Jesse was too busy promoting himself, and I could tell he didn't want to bring up Ron Paul much to compete with his own self-promotion.
Don't forget this is a guy who spends half his time in Mexico, which, while it's right to do so, does not speak well of a strong commitment to change America for the better when he spends half of his time out of the country.

Hannity, Rush, Palin, and now Ventura. He's the best of the bunch, but his motives in my opinion are the same. Now that Ron Paul is riding high in the public eye, these fading celebs are trying to get the credibility that Ron Paul earned over his lifetime to keep themselves in the spotlight. Like vampires, they would suck off him for their own political and public survival.

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This is not the WWF! Was he really serious?

If yes, this does nothing to help Ron Paul. Ventura just ended his 3rd party candidacy for anything, IMO. He's demonstrated his fringe opinions rather than mainstream ideas.

At what point would you get violent?

Seriously, what will it take for you to get violent?

Yes, this is a serious

Yes, this is a serious question. I dont believe that if they exclude Ron Paul from the debates again we should resort to violence, nor do I believe Ventura really wants that. I've listened to him for years and he says things like "I'm going to kick my opponent's butt," etc, but he doesnt mean that literally.

But your question: when should we resort to violence? What do they have to do to finally cross that line? For me, I think it's if they start forcing us into camps, or if they start forcing their way into people's homes, etc. Even then, I would try to get my family and flee (unless they've built an electric border fence). I would always hold out hope that the psychopaths in charge would self-destruct first, and only resort to violence if theres no other way. Its not like violence would accomplish anything anyways...youre not going to be killing any elites, just their enforcers who happen to be your brainwashed neighbors, and they've got better guns anyhow.

But if they exclude Ron Paul from the debates again, then we need to get highly tactical about our demonstrations, like those protestors who shut down a port. We need to make the elites tremble at the thought of dismissing us.

I'm not advocating violence, but to your point...

they already force us into camps, the camps are called prisons. We have the highest rate of incarceration in the world. These prisons are full of non violent drug offenders. The federal conviction succes rate is roughly 99%, for all crimes. It's a corrupt system, and they use it to suppress your free speech and dissenting points of view as well as punish those who have committed no crime. No victim, no crime. As for forcing their way into peoples homes, they do this all the time. Respectfully, where is this rock you've been living under? Read the Declaration of Independence, then take a look around. Things are worse now than they were when the colonists rebelled. You do realize that just by saying these things to you in an open forum I probably made it onto some list or into a government data bank. We who love Liberty have ALREADY been branded terrorists by our government. Wake up neighbor.

this is a good question

Sometimes I wonder if the only way change will happen is through the force of the people . Desperate times call for desperate measures. Hopefully no one will come knocking on my door for saying that. Corruption runs so rampant and so deep RP is truly fighting a long uphill battle. I just watched that Dr. Burzynski movie about the FDA blocking effective cancer treatment while people are dying and undergoing the horrible effects of chemo and by the end wanted to break down the doors of the FDA and hold someone accountable since that has not happened. I know this is probably not a wise thing to post, but people are sick and tired of what's happening to them at the hands of their own government. If things continue along the same old path for much longer, eventually I feel like some heads will roll.

I wouldn't

This is a peaceful revolution, and I take that seriously. It is toxic to the soul to even consider violence. That is part of the blessing of being anti-war, and when we extend that anti-war mentality to our own police state, we do ourselves a favor. Let's keep thinking of alternatives to violence, which never really solves anything.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible..."

Like I've said before, pacifism is great and all, but it only works when surrounded by other pacifists.

Being anti-unjust-and-undeclared-war does not make one a pacifist.

Not advocating anything, Just sayin'

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I like Jesse, but this is inappropriate.

The people are in the street already, very carefully NOT rioting. For him to call for any kind of violence right now is not helpful.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

why do we have defeatist

why do we have defeatist posts? Ron Paul has as good a chance as any to be the Republican nominee. I just do not see where posts like this do us any good.

Ron Paul does not have a "good" chance.

The Gop really is lead by NeoCons. A group that has very, very different plans then Ron Paul. I suggest we all prepare for Ron Paul to be rejected again by the GOP leadership. I will do all I can to help him get the nomination but I am not naive. If the GOP rejects him again, the GOP leadership will expose their real purpose and the GOP is finished.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”