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Occupy organizes march AGAINST Obama! Official website.

Things are getting very interesting.
"President Obama is on the brink of cutting a backroom deal that would give bankers broad immunity for illegally throwing tens of thousands of Americans out of their homes. The Administration is pressuring state attorneys general to abandon an ongoing investigation into the massive "robo-signing" fraud, in exchange for a relatively small payoff by the banks."

“We will not stand for a system that gives campaign contributors a right to immunity, while serving foreclosure papers to the 99%,” said Beth Bogart, a volunteer with Occupy Wall Street. “We will not stand for a country where bankers that issued deadly mortgage-backed securities are bailed out, but homeowners with mortgages are illegally thrown out on the street.”
We won't let Obama get away with being Wall Street's puppet."

http://occupywallst.org/article/occupy-wall-street-obama-don...



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northstar's picture

I am specificly talking about your OWS link

Why does the site mess with his name? If they like him, then they wouldn't go through the trouble of having a script or someone altering his last name. Ron Paul supporters would type Ron Paul when addressing him by name.

Real eyes realize real lies

We want our country back

Every year is a year for Ron Paul!

excuse me?

Ron Paul himself has supported the Americans participating in Occupy. If you disagree with Ron Paul, perhaps YOU should leave since this is a Ron Paul website. The owner of this website has also suggested we get to the Occupy protests and help educate our fellow Americans. Seems YOU may be on the wrong website, not me.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

northstar's picture

Of course Ron Paul supports protesting

It's called free speech and I highly doubt he agrees with everything OWS is doing or saying though.

Real eyes realize real lies

We want our country back

Every year is a year for Ron Paul!

Answer the question

You'll be gone when OWS is over, I'll still carry the torch.
Hate to be crass, but Obama will "get away with" his backdoor deal because he ain't reading the signs and listening to the drums.
Why would OWS deposit its money in a bank? Seriously. I'm disappointed that any patriot can't see right through this show.

Are you disappointed with Ron Paul?

He supports the Americans at Occupy. I have been a RP for years and will continue. I also happen to dislike NeoCons, a lot.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

Does the OWS site change "Ron Paul" to "Ron Lawl"

You can support him all day long and he can say kind words about the people attending, who I am happy to add my own kind words to, but it won't amount to a hill of beans if the main site of this "movement" is opposed to Ron Paul.
I'm glad to see so many people on this site aren't fooled by your antics.

Was Mike, the owner of DailyPaul and Ron Paul himself

fooled by Occupy? You do realize how silly you sound making statements like "people on this site aren't fooled by your antics", right? This is a Ron Paul website, owned by a really sharp RP supporter. They have both made it clear that Occupy is an opportunity to unite with our fellow Americans and find some common ground. Mike made this very clear. So did Ron Paul. Stop making a fool of yourself.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

ANSWER THE QUESTION

!

Who knows what?

Right now this whole thing is still a cauldron of who knows what bubbling inside it. There's a dash of marxism here, a shot of end the fed there, a generous helping of let's stick it to the bankers, another generous helping of let's stick it to Obama and the govt. Is this really as directionless as it is being portrayed? Is there really a chance for us to shape it by getting out there and educating, or is it all staged just to get us to waste our time and energy? I don't doubt that, on an individual level, if a Paul supporter goes there to educate, he/she could make some converts. I just have doubts as to the effectiveness of this on a large scale.
I used to give money to organizations like the Family Research Council (yeah, I know, I wouldn't think of doing it now), and after a while it hit me that they didn't really want to solve problems like abortion, they just used issues to get money, and maybe to give people like me a false hope of actually having a voice and a chance to change things. I have to wonder the same thing about OWS.

Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle. Mary, Our Mother, protect us under your mantle.

So, there are no leaders?

A so-called leaderless group has become led!

So, we find that there is a leader. Who? Simply put, who is organizing this..

Who's: "unofficial de facto online resource" website? The one posted above..
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Now, by no means am I saying that a person shouldn't go there and try to educate the 'ripe ones' who don't know that the Constitution is where we all stand or, have forgotten through the turmoils of life. People with people skills and education skills.

"organizing" is not the same as "leading"

Do you realize you can show up and BLOCK anything that is proposed? If you participate, your voice counts. If you sit here and snipe... Well, the other snipers will pat you on the back.
I'm headed downtown this afternoon - things should be getting interesting locally today.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

boy, you just don't get it.

Americans meet and vote on what the march is protesting. That, "simply put" is how the decision was made. No leader required. Thought this was obvious,

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

"web site"

Who owns it, who pays for it? Who runs it?

http://occupywallst.org/article/occupy-wall-street-obama-don...
...
"The occupations around the world are being organized using a non-binding consensus based collective decision making tool known as a "people's assembly". To learn more about how to use this process to organize your local community to fight back against social injustice, please read this quick guide on group dynamics in people's assemblies."

Who's involved with the "consensus"? "collective decision"?

Who designed?: "tool known as a "people's assembly""
http://occupywallst.org/about/
...
On and on..

Who is this planning group? "a planning group was formed [occupywallst.org]"
http://occupywallst.org/about/

On and on.. Someone is running this

From here: "quick guide on group dynamics in people's assemblies."
http://occupywallst.org/about/

http://takethesquare.net/2011/07/31/quick-guide-on-group-dyn...

"This text has been prepared by the Commission for Group Dynamics in Assemblies of the Puerta del Sol Protest Camp (Madrid). It is based on different texts and summaries which reached consensus in the internal Assemblies of this Commission (and which will be made available on the official webs of the 15th May Movement) and from the experiences gained in the General Assemblies held in this Protest Camp up until 31st May 2011."
...
"What is a People’s Assembly? It is a participatory decision-making body which works towards consensus."
...
"What types of Assembly have we used so far? Working Group Assemblies, Commission Assemblies, Local Assemblies (in neighbourhoods, villages and towns), General Assemblies of the Puerta de Sol Protest Camp and General Assemblies of Madrid (Puerta de Sol plus neighbourhoods, villages and towns). These latter (General) Assemblies are the final deliberative or deciding bodies from which the consensuses are decided in order to articulate the different lines of Joint Action for the 15th May Movement in each city."
...
"THE ROLES AND FUNCTIONS INVOLVED IN A MASS ASSEMBLY:"
...
"LOGISTICS TEAM: A minimum of three people who are responsible for the equipment of an Assembly. They draw a Map of the Site on the site itself, organising spaces and the corridors that run through these spaces"..
...
"ASSEMBLY PARTICIPANTS:"
"FLOOR TIME TEAM:"
"COORDINATOR(S) OF THE FLOOR-TIME TEAM:"
"FACILITATING TEAM:"
"ROTATING TEAM OF MODERATORS:"
"INTERPRETER TEAM:"
"MINUTES TEAM:"
"PROPOSAL – THE POSITION OF THE GROUP DYNAMICS TEAM IN EACH ASSEMBLY"
"LOGISTICS TEAM:"

On and on.. Highly organized! And, this is not put together in a heart-beat.

Consider This?

"ACORN Officials Scramble, Firing Workers and Shredding Documents, After Exposed as Players Behind Occupy Wall Street Protests"

Published November 03, 2011 FoxNews.oop

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/03/acorn-officials-scrambl...

Video

Fills in some of the puzzle a bit.

dated: Oct. 05, 2011
Video: "Connections Between The Working Family Party, SEIU, ACORN, The New Party, The DNC, Democratic Socialists of America, Tides, George Soros and The Obama Administration:"
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-exposing-occupy-wall-s...

direct youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9jOxE...

Blaze is a NeoCon propaganda website.

Ron Paul was not fooled by Occupy. He knows exactly what is going on and he knows why the MAJORITY of Americans are there. Thank you Ron Paul for supporting those Americans at Occupy. Nonsense from Beck's ridiculous website doesn't change that.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

I watched the video. What is the problem?

That is an individual giving their personal reason for being there. The reporter could have interviewed the large group of Ron Paul supporters that are at OWS. She chose to interview that American. Occupy is a diverse group of Americans with many different perspectives. That is the truth the NeoCons fear most. The neocon scumbags will not divide this nation again.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

what do you mean "on and on"?

These are Americans coming together as individuals and working together. They have put in place an infrastructure to help facilitate the conversation and help direct their individual resources. It's really impressive and the Liberty movement could learn a thing or two.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

Questions - Answers? None.

"They have put in place an infrastructure": Who are they?

break:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg&feature=related

um, the individuals who have shown up

to discuss the corruption. anymore deep questions?

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

Suspect not

you don't answer any of 'em.. You only speak about the fuzzy-warm feelings you have about this 'event'.

Bullsh%t

Thanks.

Oh, "the individuals", they just jumped up one day and individually decided: this would be a good day to protest at Wall Street, what the hey! Why not! then, by surprise, when each individual got there, lo 'n behold, others who thought exactly the same, just happened to be there also. Amazing! Truly.

"she talks to angels"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_5U0M9ErGA&feature=related

yep, it started with a small group.

The movement started to grow. I and several of my friends are an example of the individuals that simply showed up. This is how most large diverse movements start.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

"Some of my best friends are..."

Sure

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RON PAUL 2012

I know everyone who attends the OWS locally

They are liberals having a hay day with letters to the editor and food drives to feed and support the Occupiers in Oakland, where folks were gassed. All this is headlines in our local papers, the same who won't publish my letters that have "Ron Paul', as "not enough interest" in the area.

I get it.

Since you "know" them, how do they

feel about OWS labeling Obama a Wall Street puppet and marching against him? Strange thing for a "liberal" movement to do. Isn't Obama supposed to be their ally?

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

Most supported Nader

MSM places Nader "left" of the Democratic Party. I voted for Nader four times, the difference between me and them is I began in the Libertarian Party, many of them, lean Democratic Party/Green Party and how Nader got his "Spoiler" statis. Nader never belonged to any party so he was nevere a "spoiler".

Anyways, back in 2007 there was a weekly protest on Main Street, and I made my Ron Paul PEACE signs and wore my gear to join them. As I came up to the group I asked in general? "Do you know who Ron Paul is? The group swooned.. "Whoooooo???" and before I said a word, a small voice from the back said, "A REPUBLICAN!" and as if someone had shouted "Bomb!", the group split, half poised their peace signs to clobber me and the other half ran and hid behind a wall.

"Republican" is a powerful word. I joined, they will not. I want to end occupations, they want to be occupiers...

you are clearly a troll.

the only "secret agenda" here is YOURS. thirty seconds spent at the link YOU provided proves it. just because those with their hands out are angry at their puppet, does not align them with liberty.
i am all for discussion, but i refuse to stand with those that would pick my pocket for the "greater good".
your constant misrepresentation is disgusting, to put it as politely as i can, PINKO.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

Wrong.

The Koch brothers and their minions are using the DailyPaul to spread their fascist message among a group of liberty loving individuals. This covert operation of the Koch brothers' agenda is to brainwash the masses into believing that their fascist ideals are actually libertarian ideals. Because the individuals who frequent the DailyPaul love Ron Paul's message, some are vulnerable to the covert brainwashing of this part of the Koch's echo chamber. What is ironic is that the Koch brothers despise Ron Paul. Rocketman, you and your ilk are not PATRIOTS.

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