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Drudge Report is a NeoCon rag. Drudge abandons Ron Paul, attacks Americans.

I have been tracking Drudge for a few weeks and have noticed his abandonment of Ron Paul, increased focus on Cain and the other two goofballs and his selection of stories that dehumanize the Americans participating in the Occupy Movement. Trying to isolate our fellow Americans is always a precursor to attacking them. Drudge is helping to soften the reaction of our population when law enforcement agents attack our people. Drudge you are a traitor to the American people and it will not be forgotten.

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so the scumbag Drudge continues to ignore Ron Paul

and dehumanize the Americans at Occupy. The neocon slug can't even bring himself to link a story about why the effigy of Obama is being carried around OWS. The Americans there have voted to march against Obama and released a post calling him a Wall Street Puppet. Drudge ignores this and links a story about a crack deal at Occupy Boston. Drudge sucks.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

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Sorry. Read Drudge a LONG time. They fail Ron Paul in every way. Today no different....They SUCK.

Drudge reports anything to do

Drudge reports anything to do with controversy. A lot of the time, that includes Ron Paul. He reports on RP because it stirs the pot and I like it. Drudge has given Paul fair shake lately.

yawn,

Drudge just reposts stuff. He has a job to do. He has done a fine job for the course of liberty. You Armyfree are kinda weirding me out.

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sure, lots of Cain stories

and four or five negative stories about the Americans at Occupy on his page at all times. That is not by accident. He is neocon scumbag.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

ArmyFree every post you make

ArmyFree every post you make gets -5 to -10, this has to make this environment unfriendly for you. One would only remain in an unfriendly environment if they had a motive.

What is yours?

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There is a dedicated little band of posters

who thumbs down every statement from armyfree out of personal spite or fears about OWS. What is the motive of that hard core to lurk on the forum ready to diss any statement he makes? the tone armyfree uses often is negative and a sad mistake; but it is a mistake he'd unlearn much quicker, I would hope, if treated with reasonable respect and fairness.

And it is NOT TRUE that his every post is unwelcome to the majority here. A recent one reporting on an anti-Obama OWS site got a lot of support. It's hard to know how much value he might add to the forum, since he has to battle a pack of ankle biting bullies at every step.

At least if he could get a fair hearing we'd find out one way or the other.

thank you reed.

The abuse started from the moment I first posted. I was called a "commie" "pinko", etc. This is outrageous, more so because Mike, the owner of DailyPaul, has encouraged members to attend Occupy and help educate the Americans there. He asked members to "stand down" and stop calling Occupy "communist". He was completely ignored by the same members harassing me. RON PAUL has made his support for the majority of Americans at Occupy. The small group of bullies has ignored this FACT and continued their personal attacks toward me and the Americans at Occupy. Their actions are a stain on the DailyPaul.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

Again you're missing the point,

perhaps intentionally.

First, do not act as if you know why his comments are thumbed down. What is to stop me from saying that Armyfree or any other poster has a "dedicated band of posters who thumbs up/down every comment s/he makes"? Your defense of Armyfree, and your attempt at explaining why the vast majority of his posts are downvoted are completely one-sided.

If pointing out facts and *repeatedly* making (unanswered) requests for facts to support one's claims is bullying, then consider me a "bully". He's the one saying everything is neocon propaganda and that everyone who disagrees is a neocon troll, so he should, at the very least, offer evidence to back up his claims. He never does.

I guess Armyfree calling Drudge a stupid neocon and "an enemy of the American people" (which he says to everyone he disagrees with) is perfectly acceptable in your view, because I haven't seen you say a peep about that.

The problem is is that you're completely ignoring any fault on Armyfree's part and acting as if some rogue group of big bad mean DP posters is source of all his woes, and facts showing many instances of his OWS spamming, rude behavior, refusal to debate, and a curious lack of posts on ANY other subject are disregarded.

"It's never his fault; it's always someone else's!" pretty much sums up your defense of him.

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Sorry to get under your skin, Obomba,

and to nettle others too. My roles at the DP are 1. to learn, 2. to share insights and information 3. to support anyone working for peace and freedom, no matter how tangentially.

It gets in my way to have people overly hostile and suspcious about anyone/thing that doesn't come tied up in pretty r3VOLution ribbons. I have seen this scenario multiple times with knee-jerk response to, for instance, Julian Assange, even to people in our own camp: Jesse Benton, Alex Jones, LL, recently Zak, many others.

I like to give people benefit of doubt until they conclusively prove themselves phonies. I don't need a chorus telling me someone is a troll, OWS plant, whatever, on scant evidence. Why people are so afraid of trolls I do not understand. Most people at the DP are awake, aware, and not likely to be lured to the Dark Side. Why so much paranoia and fear? If someone has trollish intent, how much damage are they likely to do?

Looks to me like the most damage is in ill feeling between the early suspicious ones and those more confident in the strength of our philosophy, able to wait and watch developments. I wait and watch OWS. I see lots of negatives, some hopeful positives, mostly confusion. What did people expect a revolution in this country to look like? It will reflect majority opinion unless we can influence it, not by writing off anyone connected with OWS.

If you re-read my post, you will see I did not give armyfree a total pass. I've seen his non-response to valid questions; whether that is due to the distraction of so many detractors or because he has no more solid positives to offer, I'm reserving judgement at this point.

A few things

"Sorry to get under your skin, Obomba"

*You're* not the one I take issue with, just your particular defense, just to clarify. It's nothing personal.

"It gets in my way to have people overly hostile and suspcious about anyone/thing that doesn't come tied up in pretty r3VOLution ribbons."

I feel the same way...BUT, in the case of Armyfree it's pretty obvious that he's more interested in shoving OWS down everyone's throats than anything else.

"I like to give people benefit of doubt until they conclusively prove themselves phonies. I don't need a chorus telling me someone is a troll, OWS plant, whatever, on scant evidence"

That's the thing I think you're missing. To me (and some others), he *has* conclusively proven himself to be a phony, based on his actions and (lack of) responses. What you see as "bullying", I see as pointing out a lack of actual, factual answers.

"I wait and watch OWS. I see lots of negatives, some hopeful positives, mostly confusion."

That's what I've done, too. Again, I'm not saying OWS is *all* bad, (though most aspects are, IMO), but I'm going to call it as I see it.

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what "questions" do I have to answer?

I simply described my experience at OWS and Occupy Chicago. I really have noticed the neocon media's clear agenda to label Occupy, a obviously diverse movement, "communist". I found that absurd after attending several Occupy events. Mike, the owner of this website also asked DP members to stop labeling Occupy communist AND Ron Paul observed that the majority of the Americans at Occupy were good people with a reasonable compliant. What more do I have to prove?

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

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Of course you don't "have" to answer

anybody's questions, but of course people will judge your silence as well as your comments. I've seen several people asking for some evidence to back your statements about a positive response to RP or freedom ideas in general. What the press highlights are the negatives, as they did in the Tea Parties.

Thanks for the thread you started on the anti-Obama OWS site. That is a hopeful action, and I'd like to see more DPrs feed them some thoughtful comments and try to break through the conditioning they and most Americans suffer.

But I've seen you ignore overtures from some here: an invitation to meet you at the Occupy campsite so you could show the positive responses and people you've found there. I suggested you video your findings and post a link here. Another person asked why Ron Paul's name is apparently sabotaged on the supposedly anti-Obama OWS site you posted.

When you don't respond to positive suggestions/valid questions, and waste time responding only to heckling, it weakens your own case. That's all; you should know by now I wish you well and would love to see your efforts in OWS blossom into a really fruitful avenue that brings people together in a search for peace and freedom.

are you joking?

You think I should meet some hostile stranger at OWS? If Ron Paul's name is not allowed to be included in the comment section it may be because OWS is trying to remain non-partisan. We all know its possible some aggressive RP folks are spamming the comment section. However, I have no idea if his name is blocked or not. I was interested in the anti-Obama march. I think the Occupy situation is unfolding very quickly and more clarity is to come. I beg members to refrain from dehumanizing our fellow Americans participating in Occupy. They are brave and they are in danger.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

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They're doing a piss poor job being 'non-partisan'

Obamas name popped up 83 times including the comments section last time I checked. I still call BS about the site.

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reedr3v

You've been here at the DP for years just the same as myself. So, I don't want to disrespect you. But the fact is that armyfree is irritating everyone with his relentless OWS propaganda, bumping his own posts, and willful distorting of the socialist problems with OWS. He showed up here a month ago after OWS started, and all he cares about is trying to convince everyone that OWS is the most wonderful thing ever. But it's not. It's crap. I know because I've been visiting since the beginning. Why? Because I live close by zuccotti park. Armyfree, however, has NEVER been, doesn't live in NYC or anywhere near the protest, has been caught in lies relating to OWS, and is simply an OWS employee (which he has all but admitted to) coming on here to try and get everyone to devote their attention and resources away from Ron Paul to towards OWS. That's why he's on everybody's nerves.

And anyone who points out the negatives of OWS is a filthy neocon. But guess what? The negatives of OWS outweigh the positives by about 99% to 1. It is a stinky joke. I live right close by and anyone who wants to visit with me to see can message me anytime.

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You are there on the scene, I am not.

As a longtime DP member I respect your statements and appreciate your report. You are correct that armyfree has not yet "proven" himself but has become mired in repetitive, combative statements with little "proof" -- except the recent thread he began on the anti-Obama OWS site.

I'm perhaps one of those annoying "glass half full" people who looks for silver linings when things look dim. The potential of OWS is huge, as I'm sure you realize since you've gone to look for yourself. OWS is a condensation of the larger society: factions grabbing for advantage and power over the others, with lots of confused people milling about wondering what is true. That's also true of the Dems/Repubs, even most 3rd Party groups & Tea Party types.

I just don't fear any of them. I've never met one from any anti-freedom group that had any sort of decent philosophical and moral basis to their views. I'd rather engage with them and try to open some minds than assume they are not redeemable. As for armyfree, I thought a more positive reception might make a difference. I still think that.

I guess you disagree with

Ron Paul. I happen to have been to OWS and Occupy Chicago and can confirm Ron Paul's observation of Occupy. That simple.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

This person almost admitted he works for OWS

Ironically, he has been educating DP members everyday on intelligence level of him and his comrades, by reducing every his thread to a kindergarten debate.

I am glad to see more and more DPers realize that. Rating history of his post says it all. A few weeks ago it was mixed or slightly negative, now it is overwhelmingly and extremely negative.

because he's an OWS shill

armyfree is an OWS shill. He doesn't care about helping RP get then GOP nod; he's just here to try and convert RP supporters to the OWS crusade. The only question is: is he being paid to do it?

Most people here see right through him. We've been here supporting RP for years. Armyfree just showed up a month ago around the time OWS started and does nothing except post on OWS and bump his own posts and try and inject OWS into every thread and steer everything towards OWS.

Personally I don't think he's ever even been there. I've been to OWS a few times here in NYC, and I can tell Armyfree has never showed up- he describes a completely different scene then what's actually there. Personally, I think he's being paid for all his efforts. Sooner or later, he'll probably end up getting banned.

The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt

Is Ron Paul a OWS shill? Mike the owner of this RP website?

Both have supported the Americans at Occupy. Mike even suggested we go there and help educate our fellow Americans. These people are not our enemy. They are Americans.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

hardly

Yeah, and I've been there and you haven't.

And Ron Paul hasn't gone down there and publically supoprted them in any way. He said a couple nice, general diplomatic comments about them BY WAY OF PROMOTING HIMSELF. Get it? The goal is to promote RP, not to promote OWS at the expense of RP. And that's why you're a lousy shill.

The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt

I have had some wonderful conversations here.

A tiny gang of ignorant NeoCons pretending to be RP supporters doesn't bother me. These are the same type of characters that destroyed Ron Paul's Tea Party. They have no real movement so they attach themselves like fungus to the Liberty movement. I'll be fine. Of course they could just leave me alone and avoid my threads. They have a choice. I find it interesting the strong reaction here to criticizing a clearly NEOCON website that is pushing Cain for the nomination. That is very interesting indeed.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

Drudge isn't stupid

He's knows the establishment wants him shut down, and he knows Ron Paul would protect free speech on the internet.

He's got 30 million viewers a day for a reason, he knows what he's doing, hopefully he'll give the doctor a push when he can.

Drudge IS stupid.

Occupy WS calls Obama a Wall Street puppet and marches against him and Drudge still has a link up claiming Obama "owns" Occupy Wall Street. Drudge has dehumanized our brave fellow Americans at Occupy sites around the country for a month. He is trash and his website is a NeoCon cess pool.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

My wife made a great point...

The OWS people are angry, they know something is wrong, but they just aren't sure what it is. This is a whole generation who has had MSM lies shoved down their throats. Not one MSM arm will tell them the real truth, who the real enemies are, the REAL corruption, not Weiner news.

Then they go on the internet, and splinter into a thousand opinions, not knowing which sites are propaganda and which ones tell the truth.

Ron Paul IS the truth, and I hope they can figure it out in time.

OWS was created so Americans could come together

and discuss solutions to the corruption that surrounds us. It IS serving that purpose very, very well. Occupy has helped create millions of conversations about corruption in government and the banking system. The Americans holding the space have done us all a great service. Drudge is posting negative Occupy stories on purpose and it has once again exposed his NeoCon agenda.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

Armyfree is a shill

Armyfree is a shill

for calling Drudge Report a NeoCon cess-pool?

It is. Obviously. How does that make me a shill?

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

How do you have time to post t his crap?

Aren't you supposed to be protesting or something?