"National Unity" Third Party Presidential Run--Spoiler for Dr. Paul?
From today's Washington Post online:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12...
Usually, third party or independent runs for the Presidency are outside of the CFR-backed establishment. This time, it would appear they are hedging their bets and working to line up possible establishment credentialed candidates, possibly as spoilers should Dr. Paul win the Republican nomination.
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Bipartisan Group Eyes Independent Bid
First, Main Candidates Urged To Plan 'Unity' Government
By David S. Broder
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 30, 2007; A04
New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, a potential independent candidate for president, has scheduled a meeting next week with a dozen leading Democrats and Republicans, who will join him in challenging the major-party contenders to spell out their plans for forming a "government of national unity" to end the gridlock in Washington.
Those who will be at the Jan. 7 session at the University of Oklahoma say that if the likely nominees of the two parties do not pledge to "go beyond tokenism" in building an administration that seeks national consensus, they will be prepared to back Bloomberg or someone else in a third-party campaign for president.
Conveners of the meeting include such prominent Democrats as former senators Sam Nunn (Ga.), Charles S. Robb (Va.) and David L. Boren (Okla.), and former presidential candidate Gary Hart. Republican organizers include Sen. Chuck Hagel (Neb.), former party chairman Bill Brock, former senator John Danforth (Mo.) and former New Jersey governor Christine Todd Whitman.
Boren, who will host the meeting at the university, where he is president, said: "It is not a gathering to urge any one person to run for president or to say there necessarily ought to be an independent option. But if we don't see a refocusing of the campaign on a bipartisan approach, I would feel I would want to encourage an independent candidacy."
The list of acceptances suggests that the group could muster the financial and political firepower to make the threat of such a candidacy real. Others who have indicated that they plan to attend the one-day session include William S. Cohen, a former Republican senator from Maine and defense secretary in the Clinton administration; Alan Dixon, a former Democratic senator from Illinois; Bob Graham, a former Democratic senator from Florida; Jim Leach, a former Republican congressman from Iowa; Susan Eisenhower, a political consultant and granddaughter of former president Dwight D. Eisenhower; David Abshire, president of the Center for the Study of the Presidency; and Edward Perkins, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.
Bloomberg, a former Democrat who was elected mayor of New York as a Republican, left the GOP this past summer to become an independent. While disclaiming any plan to run for president in 2008, he has continued to fuel speculation by traveling widely and speaking out on both domestic and international issues. The mayor, a billionaire many times over, presumably could self-finance even a late-starting candidacy.
"As mayor, he has seen far too often how hyperpartisanship in Washington has gotten in the way of making progress on a host of issues," said Bloomberg's press secretary, Stu Loeser. "He looks forward to sitting down and discussing this with other leaders."
Until plans for this meeting were disclosed, the most concrete public move toward any kind of independent candidacy was by Unity08, a group planning an online nominating convention to pick either an independent candidate or a ticket combining a Republican and a Democrat. The sponsors, an eclectic mix of consultants who have worked for candidates including Jimmy Carter (D) and Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), have not aligned with a specific prospect.
Now, some people with high-level political and governmental credentials are moving to put muscle behind the effort. A letter from Nunn and Boren sent to those attending the Jan. 7 session said that "our political system is, at the least, badly bent and many are concluding that it is broken at a time where America must lead boldly at home and abroad. Partisan polarization is preventing us from uniting to meet the challenges that we must face if we are to prevent further erosion in America's power of leadership and example."
At the session, Boren said, participants will try to draft a statement on such issues as the need to "rebuild and reconfigure our military forces," nuclear proliferation and terrorism, and restoring U.S. credibility in the world.
"Today, we are a house divided," the letter said. "We believe that the next president must be able to call for a unity of effort by choosing the best talent available -- without regard to political party -- to help lead our nation."
Boren said he and Nunn, who often collaborated when they headed the Senate Intelligence and Armed Services committees, respectively, issued invitations to other moderates with whom they had served, and found that almost everyone was willing to come.
"Our hope is that the candidates will respond with their own specific ideas about how to pull the country together, not just aim at getting out their own polarized base," Boren said. "But we will have a couple months before the nominees will be known, and we can judge in that time what their response will be."
Boren said the meeting is being announced in advance of Thursday's Iowa caucuses "because we don't want anyone to think this was a response to any particular candidate or candidates." He said the nation needs a "government of national unity" to overcome its partisan divisions in a time of national challenge he likened to that faced by Great Britain during World War II.
"Electing a president based solely on the platform or promises of one party is not adequate for this time," Boren said. "Until you end the polarization and have bipartisanship, nothing else matters, because one party simply will block the other from acting."
Danforth said he remains a Republican but finds little cause for optimism among the current GOP candidates. "My party is appealing to a real meanness," he said in an interview, "and an irresponsible sense of machismo in foreign policy. I hope it will be less extreme, but I'm an American before I'm a Republican." Danforth has also written critically about the impact of religious conservatives on the Republican Party.
Cohen said his emphasis will be on the issues rather than on a candidacy, adding that he and Nunn will co-sponsor a series of "dialogues" on key topics, aiming to build planks for a possible consensus platform for the next president.
"The important goal all of us share," Cohen said, "is to get government back to the center."
Nunn, for his part, described Bloomberg as "an enormously capable man" but said: "I've made no decision who I'm going to support. Most of us hope to shape the Republican or Democratic side's response, but who knows where this is going to go? I think the country's at the tipping point, and it's going to take a lot more understanding by the electorate for anybody to be able to lead."





















Directly aimed at Paul, no question
The powers-that-be would take anyone but Paul basically.
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Freedom - Peace - Prosperity
How Stupid Does Bloomberg et al Think We Are????
Do they really think they can scare us by running THEIR own 3rd Party?
This has been so obvious....I saw this coming whenever I heard the "teasers" put forth in the irrelevant media that he may be running.
The ONLY reason that we would see Mr. Bloomberg run is when they feel threatened enough that Ron Paul will indeed win!
RON PAUL WILL WIN!
"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry
Visions of New World Order dance in Bloomberg's head
He's nuts. All that money he is out of touch with reality. He wants a Police State
Let Them Try
It's obvious that we have been SERIOUSLY underestimated. One neocon ticket against us or two neocon tickets against us... it really doesn't matter. Freedom wins.
Nice try, but it won't work.
When Ron gets the nomination it will be because people understood and stuck by him despite the odds and media favoring the other candidates in every way. Ron is surging because his message is pure and good as gold. The establishment doesn't get it. They've been making candidates and winners for so long now they all just think the RP phenomenon is a product of him "harnessing" the internet. As if we are just lemmings waiting to be herded as soon as a candidate's internet consultant sets up some slick websites to dictate what we voters are to do. We know that is not what has attracted our devotion to the campaign nor will we be duped by their new unity puppets. I will be interested to see how their 3rd party candidates fare under the biased political system which favors the Republicrat parties. Now that will be a taste of their own medicine!
I have been saying for months....
I have been saying for months Bloomberg is running; just another CFR. All of these national unity are the former senators, etc that have caused us to lose our civil rights; many if not all appear to be cfr.
Ron -- if he is shut out by Reps -- will need to run as a fourth party. Good if he does. Bloomberg will only hurt Hillary.
This might be our last free election; the NWO is on the move. Just look at how many civil rights we have lost just over the last couple of years.
I agree. If Bloomberg does
I agree. If Bloomberg does run, I hope enough people will be educated about him to realize they shouldn't vote for him.
Barn Door / Missing Horse
What you're seeing is the barn door being closed after the horse has left.
Bloomberg decided to bail out of the race before, and is now looking to double-dutch back into this thing because he thinks that Ron Paul's money and dis-satisfaction of the people equal an opportunity.
I live in Manhattan, and even though Bloomberg strikes me as a controlling, socialist-leaning politician, he doesn't seem overtly malicious. He's always capitalized on opportunities, and he sees one here. I mean - LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE!!! We have kicked the establishment on their cans. Bloomberg seens this as his ticket.
The problem is that Bloomberg can't give the people what they REALLY want and demand -- which is more freedom. Whom are you going to believe? A guy who has proposed exhaustive taxes on traffic and has pushed to ban trans-fat in one of the world's most regulated economies -- or a man who has stood alone for 30 years as the defender of the rights of the American people?
I don't think Bloomberg, however well intentioned, can buy the reputation that is needed to show the people he can give them what they are demanding.
Any way you slice it, this effort is too late. It's just a last ditch hail-mary heave by a confused and astonished establishment. Let them form their party. We've already ran the trojan horse right through the gate. They've been gutted from the inside and they know it. Of course this type of thing is a natural reaction. How did the American people get a representative voice, when they fought so hard to silence it?
We just need to keep Dr. Paul safe until election day and let the message work.
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"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
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"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
Bloomberg
has the likes of Kissinger supporting if not forcing him into this race. I have done some reading on Kissinger and he is NOT a nice man, very dangerous.
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
Kissinger is the devil's dog!
He represents the globalist's vision of the world. He's repugnant! This guy was behind torture and death of thousands of people worldwide in the Nixon era and is always welcome in GW's Whitehouse anytime he wants to drop by for a cup of blood!
JB.
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
ya gotta love it
Brilliant!
In response to widespread dissatisfaction and disgust with the Democrats and Republicans who run the government, a high-level meeting to discuss solutions will take place, conducted by, well, Democrats and Republicans.
I have such high hopes.
An 'Anyone But Paul' Strategy
This is a CFR Establishment effort to deliver the executive branch to the Democrat whoever it is; and is as sinister as anything electorally heretofore with the architects of the GOP heirarchy on board...
Leland Thomas Faegre
I agree that this is a CFR
I agree that this is a CFR effort to get a globalist in the white house(but I believe they will settle for a democrat republican or an independent as long as the person share's their globalist views), someone who does not care about stopping illegal immigration, someone who does not care about secure borders, someone who supports moving towards a north american union. Whoever these people nominate, they must not win. They are against most things Ron Paul stands for.
unite what?
THe only unity that i know between D's and R's are Clintons and Bushes and McCains and Leibermans.
The Nader and Kucinich independant democrats want Ron badly because there is noone else
The real unity is two libertarians.
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Gridlock
Unity and bipartisanship are the enemies of freedom. Bipartisan cooperation means Demoblicans and Repucrats work together to rob us of our time, money, and freedom, then blame each other. Fortunately for them, enough of their partisan supporters fall for the fraud. Gridlock has gotten a bad name, but short of actual liberty it is America's best friend. The less a government can do, the less it can do wrong.
Viva Agora!
LehrBoy
www.citizenduquesne.org
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I watched the CNN Interview and...
I watched the CNN Interview and what they are looking for ALREADY exists.
We call that candidate Dr. Ron Paul. It was rather interesting to hear what they want to do. I say, hah, it's already done by Ron Paul!!!
I'd bet they'll hear the same message in OK. I would be they will also talk about that. Their main point was that the *issues* are forgotten while things like haircuts and other bs are talked about. They say the issues cannot be talked about in 30 seconds. No kidding.
Anyway, the TIDE has turned big time. The entire country is shifting, and it's WAY TOO LATE to the so called TOP candidates in either party to change their stance.
Rich Sage
http://www.richsage.com
Rich Sage
http://www.bestofronpaulvideo.com/
We Here All Know that Dr. Paul is the Answer
If this "National Unity" effort does get support and nominates an establishment candidate, you can be sure the MSM will fawn all over that candidate like a political messiah and lavish him with favorable mass media attention, something they have denied so far to Dr. Paul. For the most part, the key difference is the MSM invites Dr. Paul into their realm hoping to trip him up or discredit him.
Hopefully, the "sheeple" in the electorate will continue to wake up and recognize that Dr. Paul is authentic and offers genuine change.
We Here All Know that Dr. Paul is the Answer
If this "National Unity" efforts does get support and nominates an establishment candidate, you can be sure the MSM will fawn all over that candidate like a political messiah and lavish him with favorable mass media attention, something they have denied so far to Dr. Paul. For the most part, the key difference is the MSM invites Dr. Paul into their realm hoping to trip him up or discredit him.
Hopefully, the "sheeple" in the electorate will continue to wake up and recognize that Dr. Paul is authentic and offers genuine change.
You better believe it.
The Elite still has plenty of tricks up their sleeve. If Dr. Paul does well, don't be surprised if you see Dobbs or Bloomberg running as third party or independent. It's going to get very interesting...
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
-Goethe
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsley believe they are free."
-Goethe
Ron has mentioned Chuck Hagel for VP
It would shake things up though. Not sure if it would be good or bad for us.
Hagel is Still an Establishment Guy
Although Hagel has publicly come out against the Iraq War, he has spoken at Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) forums and written in their "Foreign Affairs" journal. Personally, I think he's an opportunist who opposes the war for political expediency in preparation for a future presidential run of his own as the establishment's annointed candidate once Iraq fades into the background.
Otherwise, he's working the CFR agenda all the way and would be an absolute disaster for Dr. Paul. I see it like George Bush as Reagan's vice president. He dominated the administration and populated it with CFR members for all of the key cabinet positions, limiting Reagan's ability to implement any meaningful change.
If Hagel was really his own man and a man of principle and courage, he would come out and endorse Dr. Paul. Alas, he is not, and he is lining up with the "more of the same" establishment politicians who seek to advance the CFR's agenda at all costs.
Hagel would be a bad choice
Hagel would be a bad choice and a mistake for VP imo. He is for amnesty and doesn't seem to concerned with stopping illegal immigration. After Paul won two terms, Hagel could become president and go back to the Bush policy of weak and ineffective enforcement on illegal immigration. He could also put us back on the path toward north american union since he seems to be a globalist and does not oppose it like RP does.