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I have a feeling that Obamacare was never meant to become a reality.

The way I see it, it was a ploy by the democrats to make the democrats still look like democrats while they bombed nations in the middle east, and bailed out their bankster buddies just like republicans do. Now the republicans can get into office and repeal it to regain the people's trust in the GOP. If a republican gets into office and does not repeal it, the charade will be over unless the people of America are more sheepleized then I thought. These are the kind of games these politicians play.

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Obamacare was a refinancing of the debt

The politicians sold the people to the bankers again. Remember Obammer saying things like "if we don't pass healthcare we'll go bankrupt"? How could that be? Unless the central bank was asking for more collateral. The revenue stream paid to health care per year is hundreds of billions $$$. You could take out a mighty big loan with that kind of cash flow.

you are correct.

It was used as a distraction and to quiet the Propeace faction of the Democrats. They remained silent because they didn't want to weaken Obama. This was a trick and as WE know, the money to fund Obamacare was NEVER there. This was a scam to quiet the growing resistance from Obama's base toward the illegal wars. It worked.

Ron Paul on Occupy Wall Street:
“But I think that the majority of them think government is the problem and taxes are too high and they know that the Federal Reserve plays a role in this, which, of course, is something I agree with.”

Hegelian Dialectic.

So perhaps what ends up being Universal Healthcare will be what was wanted in the first place...interesting.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

it was not a grand design..

a bunch of republicans lost seats over a variety of poor performances including some partial support for the healthcare bill.. you ignore much fabric of details in treating it as a grand design.. that's why 99.9999% of conspiracies don't work--not detailed enough

it doesn't make sense to support a grand conspiracy only to find yourself defending against all the later backlashes against you.. take rick perry and romney both of whom are losing conservative support because their affiliation to obama healthcare bill.. the reality is deep and often much deeper than conspiracies.. just pay more attention to news and finance.. it's impossible for any collective of people to grasp

so many people are trying to game the markets.. if there were really some grand manipulator they are bound to leave footprints in the market. with so many talented people aiming to strike riches in finance, wouldn't you think some independent trader have already figured it out if it were the case? and if so, they would be filthy rich. because it's not.. all a fantasy.

There is always collateral damage

done with the moves the elites make. They expect them and plan for them way in advance, that is why the elites have 6 candidates in the running, and we have 1. I appreciate your point, and understand there are many more details to Obamacare, but I think things get easier to see without the details as we all "wake up." Keep up the great work jtstellar!!!

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

how much time do you spend in global news daily

in politics, policies, finance? i was interested in conspiracies for about 6 months a few years ago. ever since i began actually reading more deeply into issues and analyzing because i began to invest, i came to realize the world is so complicated and there are so many people trying to figure out what is going on, that it's just impossible for any type of grand scheming people like to theorize. i mean they may come and go, but people who work for government or even shadow government are second tier. the smartest people have to compete with other smart people to hone their skills and smarts and this environment can't be found in a shadow government. and rich people would rather be making billions in an open environment.

it's the same principle why free market works and why liars and cheats don't go very long in a healthy business environment--it's because lies and cheats usually don't take as much smart as you think and it can very easily be duplicated, so if lying and cheating becomes profitable you would go immediately out of business, because everybody would do it and crowd you out. this is why 'honest business' actually works--because it goes with the society and develops intertwined, complicated relationships that aren't easily duplicated unless done exactly the way it's meant to be.

it's impossible for any 'elite' to duplicate a complicated social phenomena to twist the end result to exactly as it wishes. this is what i get for spending god knows how much time a day thinking and observing the world and their markets, and btw did you know everything has market implications, so figuring out anything would help you make money, if you knew how? is why this is almost like a career for me. i don't know if summarizing it this way is useful if you just take world events as some 20 minute a day semi serious entertainment, but it's just impossible for complicated events to be manipulated. in fact, if you believe that, then free market theory doesn't work, because it revolves totally around the theory that the invisible market forces by individuals are most strong and complicated, and any central planning won't be able to achieve desired result. you're going against the very heart and soul of why free market works and why we shouldn't just put a couple benevolent elites above human intelligence in charge. ever thought about that?