The Swamp: Ron Paul indeed Out-Foxed (for now)

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Campaign press release here - 'Has Fox News Excluded Ron Paul - Part II

by Jason George | The Swamp

Fergus Cullen, chairman of the New Hampshire State Republican Committee, confirmed Sunday evening to the Tribune that, yes, there will be a televised Fox News presidential candidate forum on Jan. 6, and yes, Rep. Ron Paul was not invited when the other candidates were a week or so ago.

"My understanding is that five candidates to that point had been offered spots but the event is still coming together," Cullen said.

The candidates invited to the forum/debate – whatever you want to call it – will be Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Gov. Mike Huckabee, Sen. John McCain, Gov. Mitt Romney and Sen. Fred Thompson.

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So let me get this

So let me get this straight...Andrew Cline, editorial page editor of the Manchester Union Leader, states that he feels Paul may finish THIRD in New Hampshire; AHEAD of Guiliani, Thompson, and Huckabee; and yet FOX invites THEM to the forum on the sixth??? Thought they were a CREDIBLE news organization...

I'm in

I live in Florida and I'm willing to fly over there for that.

GET YOUR PLANE TICKETS READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am willinig to invest in a plane ticket and join the BIG RALLY in NH at the NH GOP/Fox "Forum" All those in favor please respond! Lets get together on this one and make it happen! I have about 15 people willing to join me in this area, and thats without even trying to get more people to come with me! Lets get about 15,000 of us out side screaming "RON PAUL" "RON PAUL" at the top of our lungs and make them hear us from the Forum! They won't be able to stop us! They'll have to massacure us first! "Live free or die" Dr. Paul should be ready to walk in and join! Because we won't stop until he's in!

Oh, and another note please Dr. Paul....Take the campaign donation match! I personally find it heart renching that all the other canidates are going to take our tax money and use it for thier campaign and Dr. Paul won't. I know I wouldn't mind if Dr. Paul stole my tax dollars to boost his campaign! I'm sure everyone else wouldn't mind either! So take the match Dr. Paul, It's the least you can do for some apathetic TAXPAYERS. We look at it as a GREAT INVESTMENT!

Ron Paul is OUR "Boston Teal Party"

Ron Paul is OUR "Boston Teal Party"

Great Blowback

That was a good story and I'm sure it's going to get some people to look into Ron Paul.

Get a few more of those news stories on the local channels and it probably will be more effective than Ron Paul actually being at the forum.

The more you try to cover up the truth, the more interesting it becomes to people.

Why Be Surprised? Fox is the NeoCon Central.

Why Be Surprised? Fox is the NeoCon Central.

by Melinda Pillsbury-Foster

We need to send thank you notes to Fox for handing us this opportunity. Now, the Ron Paul Revolution can show America why the past 'debates' always leave them with more questions.

Fox is excluding the candidate who raised the most money; money raised from small donations, direct from the hearts and labor of Americans; by doing that they finally admit, "Presidential campaigns, all political campaigns, are carried out to simulate elections. The people can have no real choices. The real choices are made by those who own us, corporations."

For our entire lifetimes those same corporations, working through and with government, have controlled us. They accomplish that through our mortgages, with banks issuing those mortgages by creating money, against the law but with the cooperation of the FED and government. They do it with credit card companies that change the terms and then hound us for with usurious interest rates. They do it through the money we earn and struggle to save, sucking out our labor for their own profit through endless expansion of the money supply. Every part of our lives profits them; therefore they demand to control all of us.

They exclude Ron because he speaks the truth about all of these things. For the same reason they are determined that the real questions will not be asked. Cast your mind back to past debates; you will hear that echoing silence. All questions were parsed to avoid exposing the collusion between government and corporations that is used to keep us on the grids of their greed.

They use our love of America, our honesty, our decency, our concern for our families, our patriotism, our love of God, to exact that control. They divide us and manipulate us so that we fight each other instead of seeing the truth.

Then, they run elections.

That is the simulation they play to entertain and confuse us. With the Ron Paul Revolution that stopped working like the smoothly orchestrated play they have put on for so long.

We need therefore to thank them for this monumental opportunity. That is what this is. Yes, boycott their advertisers. But get ready to move into a new phase of Revolution.

We will have our own debate. This time, we frame the debate and set the rules. This time the questions they evade are the ones asked.

We will let CNN or another media outlet televise the event. Those who write the questions will be the people who understand what has been happening to America, the voices silenced until now. We will make sure they answer those questions even if the GOP candidates, personally, remain silent.

The GOP Presidential Debate in New Hampshire will be held where ever they choose. Close by we will hold the real Debate. We will invite all of the candidates. They will decline, pleading their prior commitment. They will suspect what is coming.

Every living individual, and perhaps the ghosts of the previous Revolutionaries, will sense the importance of the event. The blimp will be flashing its message, the Granny Warriors will be on the ground and on the air. The people will begin signing the Declaration of Independence for the 2nd Revolution across the New Hampshire, focusing in on Ron Paul Hall.

Online sites will cover unfolding events. Local papers will get updates, ready to print several times a day.

Airplanes with banners will be seen from every town, from every farm. Every citizen of New Hampshire will understand that the people are about to be heard. The State of Live Free or Die will remember its proud heritage, recalled to that vision by ordinary people who have discovered they can do it themselves.

The embers of freedom will ignite.

The media has used the debates to keep us in line. Before we were content to just be included, Dr. Paul marginalized and sneered at by such as Sean Hannity. That is over.

Now we shatter their pretensions, change the frame of assumptions they take for granted, taking up the vision of freedom promised in the Declaration of Independence. Beginning in New Hampshire we will start climbing off their grid of media deceit, intended to control us, keep us compliant and quiet.

We will begin signing a new Declaration, with the causes carefully laid out.

We build a new media, connecting Americans to the truth.

In the hall we hire, Ron Paul Hall, the seats will be filled to overflowing the night of January 6th. Big screens will have been set up in buildings and parks nearby. The people will have been gathering for days to hear and see.

The black limousines will roll up to the GOP event through crowds holding signs that read, "The Revolution is Here," and "Join the Ron Paul Revolution." Activists, as ever, will innovate, exercising their power. The faces of the GOP candidates and their few supporters will be ashen. They will feel fear although no threats were ever made. We will ignore them.

In their auditorium there will be many empty seats; it will feel cold, abandoned. Their audience will be comprised of GOP faithful who are hoping for profits from their political activities. They will be uncomfortable, tense. A few will wear buttons in support of some candidate. Those who do will have carried those buttons in pockets to the event before putting them on.

They are afraid because their world is ending. They no longer matter. They are the past. We are the future of America.

In the Ron Paul Hall excitement will have been building for days; there will be laughter and joy, tears and nearly unbearable anticipation. Those attending will know that this event will be one that remains with them forever. The two events will take place at exactly the same time. No events could be more different. One is about the end, the other a new beginning.

On stage there will be an individual for each absent candidate. Each is highly qualified, grounded in all relevant disciplines, someone who has done the research thoroughly and completely. The compiled record of votes, life history, platform, how and when that platform changed, and, very important, who is funding them, will be available. Absent, each candidate will speak through their own record, despite their silence. Ron Paul will speak for himself. Only he has lived transparently.

The Master of Ceremonies, Chris Lawton, will ask the questions giving each their turn. But what you will hear, for the first time, is the truth, drawn from the evidence of what each has done.

America will hear. On a screen above the stage you will see the GOP event as it limps along. The sound from that event is turned off, as it should be. Their words were all lies, anyway.

When all the words are spoken there will be a long moment of silence.

From that moment the Revolution will flow into the mainstream of America.

The website made available so that all can see for themselves the documentation may occasionally go down, over loaded with traffic; demand will grow. On the sputtering campaign trail candidates will continue to lie. Several will drop out of the race. Americans will study those hard, unpalatable facts they had not imagined possible. In the days that follow each will experience anguish, revulsion, and then acceptance.

And the Revolution will grow because the people see the truth and have the tools to enact change.

We live in a human world that is held in place through our faith. We have accepted ideas that we never asked be proved. That faith made it possible for our lives and labor to be converted into the wealth controlled by individuals without conscience. Now, we, the people, will get the answers.

The people will govern themselves because now they can.

I don't understand

why everyone is upset about this. Fox is doing the right thing. They're being fair and balanced. If they invited Dr. Paul to the forum, he would blow all of the other candidates out of the water. That wouldn't be fair to them, would it? They're just trying to keep a level playing field.
/sarcasm

Even if he did get invited, he probably wouldn't get fair air time anyway (but atleast his name would be out there, right?). However, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up saying "Sorry! Your invitation must've been lost somewhere. OF COURSE you are invited! How could we invite Fred, but not you? You broke two different fundraising records, have the most online support, and win a majority of online and straw polls. It would be very arrogant and stupid of us to *not* invite you!"

Well...maybe not *exactly* that...but something similar. They're probably just delaying the invitation hoping we'll do something stupid, and they can coin it off as a simple misunderstanding...making angry Ron Paul supporters look as if THEY were mistreating Faux...err...Fox.

If they really do exclude Dr. Paul...just try pitting CNN (or some other network) against them. Surely they would love to capitalize on a stupid stunt such as this.

Did they stop letting people post at Fox?

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2007/12/09/republican-preside...

I tried to post there and my post #318 is marked as still being concidered for posting after 2 hours. Anyhow, this was my post:

The American public deserves to see and hear all the candidates on your debate. This is the only fair thing to do. Just cancel the debate if you refuse to allow all the candidates to participate. Ron Paul has done nothing wrong to deserve this disgraceful treatment. Fox News, please us all why you don’t want Ron Paul on the debate. The least you could do is tell us why you did this. You can be sure Ron Paul supporters will be out in droves at the debate, and then you’ll just spin that into something else for your viewing pleasure.
Don’t be Faux News, be Fox News and let Ron Paul participate equally in the debate !

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I tried to post at FOX too...

just for kicks. My comment is ranked #318 and "awaiting moderation." I wonder how many 318's there are?????

Has Fox News Excluded Ron Paul? pt. 2 (12/30/07)

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/


On December 27, the Associated Press reported: "The New Hampshire Republican Party is sponsoring a forum for Republican presidential candidates on Jan. 6, two days before the state's first-in-the-nation primary." Later in the article, the AP stated: "Participating in the forum will be Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson."

On the evening of December 28, Jared Chicoine and Jordan Brown of our New Hampshire campaign staff met in person with Fergus Cullen the New Hampshire GOP chairman to discuss whether or not Dr. Paul would be invited to participate in the forum. Mr. Cullen confirmed there will be an event on January 6, but he could not confirm whether or not Dr. Paul would be invited. We also learned the event would not be a debate with an audience, but instead would be a forum in a closed studio with the candidates questioned only by Chris Wallace of Fox News.

A few hours after that meeting, we contacted Fox News seeking clarification. Later that night, we issued a press release while waiting to hear from Fox News.

On December 29, the Baltimore Sun featured a report by Jason George. Mr. George reported, "Calls and emails to Fox News spokespersons by the Tribune were not returned Saturday evening.

"An official at the New Hampshire GOP, which is co-sponsoring the event with Fox, said that Paul might still be included, but the planning for the debate was still coming together and it was ultimately Fox's call."

As of late afternoon today (December 30), we have nothing more to report.

Kent Snyder
Chairman, Ron Paul 2008

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Sell all of your stocks with NWS and contact

all advertisers. Also I am personally going to get rude with them and TAKE OUT AN ADD in the Tampa Tribuine if its not too expensive.. TIME TO MOBILIZE..

Take out Boycott adds in every newspaper.

Ron Paul should make a add just for Fox too....

Did the GOP Get the reasion why?

If this has been disclosed before lead me to the forum please. They say it was per the Fox contract, but we the people need the answer to as why the Good Dr. Paul was not include period. Once we know we can layout our battle field to counter them.
BobMo

BobMo

This is great news

This is turning out well. Not that many people will watch their dumb forum anyway, but now this will turn into 20X as much media coverage for the campaign. Everyone loves to root for the underdog.

Did Cullen just find this out?

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
-- Mahatma Gandhi

I'm disappointed in the GOP

At the end of the day, the GOP is a team working towards a common set of goals. The GOP could resolve this issue by working behind the scenes with the other candidates.

I actually this this is better for RP in the long run, if handled properly. We need to add this to the distribution of materials to the republican base. There is a probably a mailing list of registered republicans we can access osmewhere.

faux is almost dead.

faux is almost dead. Billoriley & fox&fiends at the same time is mind boggling twilight zone........ . ... there on the way out and having "formalS' to insult the public, this is a common tactic. they are trying to use ignorance against people who are economically disadvantaged as well as have no New media access (PC's) and they are well aware of the way the present the programming. there are a lot of poor people and i am not sure as the amount of citizens with internet access.

the message is getting out people are smarter then nws and Dr. Paul will be president.

the second the votes prove victory the second amendment must be reinstated fully, the National guard is in Iraq...