Submitted by falstoffe on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 14:50.
I'm still making it a personal point to boycott Fox and their sponsors. I've already made the phone calls. and I'm sticking to what I said until January 6th (if RP is included) or six months (if RP is not included). It's easy NOT to buy a stereo or a brand of hair gel.
On the Other Hand: Given a choice between a meetup group with happy faces waving "Ron Paul" signs on a trafficked street corner or a meetup with angry faces waving "No Fox" signs in front of Best Buy, the Happy Ron Paul group helps us more.
That's my personal solution on how to divide the labor on this boycott thing.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
in these forums on the part of inexperienced youths is a detractor . Flag this if you like but there is such a thing as spinning your wheels.
Fox did what it did . Concentrate on this you youthful
adrenaline Ron Paul junkies ( I am a gd, supporter TOO) but forget fox and what it will or will not do.
OUR GREATEST MISSION BESIDES RAISING FUNDS
FOR THE CAMPAIGN , BEYOND FOX , BEYOND HR1955 BEYOND S1959 IS THIS , AND GET THIS RIGHT ONCE AN FOR ALL ALL OF YOU NEOPHYTES,
IS TO BRING IN RECRUITS TO VOTE RON PAUL
BY ILLUSTRATING INTELLIGENTLY TO THOSE WHO ARE ON THE FENCE WHY THE OTHER HOPEFULS ARE ADOPTING R ,PAULS POSITION NOW THAT THE COUNTRY IS WAKING UP. NO AMOUNT OF MONEY BOMBS OR ANY OTHER BS, WILL CONVINCE ANYBODY TO VOTE FOR R. PAUL UNTIL WE CAN LITERALLY POINT OUT TO THE ON THE FENCE PEOPLE THAT RON PAUL IS BEING PLAGIARIZED
BY BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS THIS IS FAR MORE OF A HINDRANCE THAN MONEY OR FOX BECAUSE IT PANDERS TO THE SAME FOOLS TO VOTE FOR THE STATUS QUO EMPTY PROMISE SUITES OR SKIRTS , DO YOU ALL GET THIS?
TOO MANY BLIND FORUMS TOO MANY POINTLESS RALLIES FIGHT THE gd .ENEMY WITH BRAINS
CAPITOLIZE AND SWING THE VOTE BY POINTING OUT THE BACKPEDALING OF THE RUNNERS UP
AS OPPOSED TO THE UNWAVERING RON PAUL SO THAT THE SWING VOTER VOTES FOR PAUL BECAUSE HE IS NOT PANDERING OR LIEING
FOX HAS NO RELEVANCE AT ALL .
In response to Fox excluding Ron Paul from an upcoming forum of Republican candidates to be broadcast by Fox News on January 6, 2008 in New Hampshire I have blocked WOFL Fox 35 and Fox news channel on my cable box. I plan to never watch any Fox broadcast in the future, not even accidentally while channel surfing.
Am I the only one that gets it that the Iowa Caucas is before this debate?
When Ron Paul beats ANY of the frontrunners in Iowa, Fox will simply be forced to include Ron Paul in the debate. Why? Because "crazy, loony, whacky, freaky", Ron beating any frontrunner IS news.
And Fox News NOT giving Ron a chance to debate after beating frontrunners in Iowa will make the news on other networks. Fox will have to include Paul just out of shame.
So ease up and keep the eye on the ball: Iowa.
Paul just needs to beat a few frontrunners there and believe me, he'll be all over the press headlines because whoever loses to him will be shamed out of this race.
We should leave nothing to chance. Take the offensive on all fronts. When he does well, like in the top three, it will be a big embaressment for FOX in the short term when Dr. Paul says thanks but no thanks, you folks just talk to yourselves, I've got a Revolution to run, however, it would be nice to see him make the candidates squirm again when he speaks the truth. The other candidates are the same and they don't want the light of truth shinned their way. Like Romney consulting his lawyer before going to war.
Every venue should include Dr. Paul, even the Faux News, where he can make them reveal themselves for what they really are. It was watching Ron Paul on the first Fox News debate and the way they treated him that solidified my support for him and I will never watch FOX or the affiliates again.
Submitted by Jane Aitken on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 11:04.
They noted that this came after the Iowa caucuses but then again so does the ABC/WMUR-TV full blown debate event on the 5th and he is going to be in that....
Submitted by jrbrown1989 on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 10:54.
Ron Paul is the only candidate that has proposed that we stop borrowing money from other countries to then give money to the Israelis and Arabs. Would you borrow money to pay off your neighbors to stop fighting each other? Probablly not, so why are we running up our National Debt to pay off Israel, Egypt and Lebanon? This is absolutely a foolish way to spend our tax dollars and Ron Paul is exposing this nonsense to the millions of people who watch Fox News and they aren't as dumb as you think and could come around and support Ron Paul for President. This is the real reason Fox is trying to silence Ron Paul. But this will only backfire on them as we expose it to our fellow Americans.
Submitted by jrbrown1989 on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 11:07.
I work for a Federal Government Contractor, when I tried to donate money this morning I had to state "truthfully" that I work for such a firm. When I did this, it would not let me. Is this a law now? I've donated money to others in the past, what happened? Please advise.
If you're the "owner" and you're self employed directly with the Federal Government then you can't donate.
But if you work for Lockheed Martin or GD (examples), you're NOT a federal contractor, you're an employee of a Federal Contractor and can donate. If you are a sub-contractor under Lockheed or GD (examples) then you're not a "direct" Federal Contractor either. If you're a 1099 for any of these types companies you're not a Federal Contractor. If you're a "partner" of a federal contractor (example - LLC), you as an individual (from your own funds) donate.
Either way, call the campaign to verify it's legit.
Submitted by jrbrown1989 on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 11:04.
The LA Times lead Editoria today is titled "The Blessings of Liberty" in which they slam the current US policy of torture and fear mongering. The editor wants to know who you support for President and why at opinionlat@lattimes.com
This is a perfect opportunity to let other MSMs know about Fox News excluding Ron Paul from their debate/discussion
It makes me so angry to hear news-speak like that, I was hoping the original reporter would have fired back or something. I'm so sick of these "national" polls being the measuring stick for popularity, total B.S.
The original reporter did say that he consistently polled ahead of Thompson, who is considered a frontrunner and is scheduled to show up at that forum.
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If no one thinks you're crazy, you're not dreaming big enough.
Don't get me wrong: it angers and frustrates me as well. But the fact of the matter is that their minds will not be changed until Ron Paul starts winning primaries. Just keep doing what we are doing: getting the word out, talking to friends and neighbors, and donating to Ron Paul.
Submitted by thirty3na3rd on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 10:07.
...I sent Fox 42 an email thanking them for their report. Granted, they probably had been getting complaints about Fox News' exclusion of Paul and wanted to do something to draw a distinction between themselves and the Fox News national organization.
Submitted by Regnad Kcin on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 10:05.
It is obvious that the emails and snail mails are having an impact.
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"But the more the Establishment oppressed them,
the more the Ron Paul message multiplied and spread,
and the more alarmed the Establishment became."
- after Exodus 1.12
How was the broke Huckster able to get airtime here in SC roughly 2 weeks ago, but still no ads for Ron Paul? Fortunately, here in SC, some group I never heard of has simultaneously been running ads that have skewered the Huckster to a crisp. (They show video of him campaigning to extract more tribute from his poor subjects in Arkansas. The ads run what seems to be every 15 or 20 minutes on all 3 channels, all day long. I know a couple of warmongers who had thought the Huckster was their man, but no more. They're now really confused.) Still, it's baffling that he was able to get his propaganda on air so quickly, unless he simply received an advance from the beast itself.
Does anyone know when our ads are going to air in SC?
I wish the video had not cut off at the end so we could see how the coverage concluded, but what was there was actually pretty good. He was starting to point out that Ron Paul actually polls higher than Fred Thompson, yet Thompson is invited and Ron Paul is not.
Regardless, I think this will backfire on Fox News in the end. If Ron Paul places strongly in Iowa, they will lose a lot of credibility. If he wins, they will look like utter fools.
This is a strong reminder in this video as well to all Ron Paul supporters: make sure that we are not attacking the wrong people. We need to pause a little more before clicking the send button.
It's easy to do nothing and better to do something
I'm still making it a personal point to boycott Fox and their sponsors. I've already made the phone calls. and I'm sticking to what I said until January 6th (if RP is included) or six months (if RP is not included). It's easy NOT to buy a stereo or a brand of hair gel.
On the Other Hand: Given a choice between a meetup group with happy faces waving "Ron Paul" signs on a trafficked street corner or a meetup with angry faces waving "No Fox" signs in front of Best Buy, the Happy Ron Paul group helps us more.
That's my personal solution on how to divide the labor on this boycott thing.
Life, Liberty, Property
nice
nice
Good coverage by that
Good coverage by that affiliate station.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
enough exuberance
in these forums on the part of inexperienced youths is a detractor . Flag this if you like but there is such a thing as spinning your wheels.
Fox did what it did . Concentrate on this you youthful
adrenaline Ron Paul junkies ( I am a gd, supporter TOO) but forget fox and what it will or will not do.
OUR GREATEST MISSION BESIDES RAISING FUNDS
FOR THE CAMPAIGN , BEYOND FOX , BEYOND HR1955 BEYOND S1959 IS THIS , AND GET THIS RIGHT ONCE AN FOR ALL ALL OF YOU NEOPHYTES,
IS TO BRING IN RECRUITS TO VOTE RON PAUL
BY ILLUSTRATING INTELLIGENTLY TO THOSE WHO ARE ON THE FENCE WHY THE OTHER HOPEFULS ARE ADOPTING R ,PAULS POSITION NOW THAT THE COUNTRY IS WAKING UP. NO AMOUNT OF MONEY BOMBS OR ANY OTHER BS, WILL CONVINCE ANYBODY TO VOTE FOR R. PAUL UNTIL WE CAN LITERALLY POINT OUT TO THE ON THE FENCE PEOPLE THAT RON PAUL IS BEING PLAGIARIZED
BY BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS THIS IS FAR MORE OF A HINDRANCE THAN MONEY OR FOX BECAUSE IT PANDERS TO THE SAME FOOLS TO VOTE FOR THE STATUS QUO EMPTY PROMISE SUITES OR SKIRTS , DO YOU ALL GET THIS?
TOO MANY BLIND FORUMS TOO MANY POINTLESS RALLIES FIGHT THE gd .ENEMY WITH BRAINS
CAPITOLIZE AND SWING THE VOTE BY POINTING OUT THE BACKPEDALING OF THE RUNNERS UP
AS OPPOSED TO THE UNWAVERING RON PAUL SO THAT THE SWING VOTER VOTES FOR PAUL BECAUSE HE IS NOT PANDERING OR LIEING
FOX HAS NO RELEVANCE AT ALL .
Wow, surprised
I didn't think that fair, honest news coverage existed anymore. Glad to see this.
Woo Hoo!
Woo Hoo! RonPaulforPresident2008.com was shown in this news report at the 43~46 second mark! We are famous...lol
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Fox channels blocked!
In response to Fox excluding Ron Paul from an upcoming forum of Republican candidates to be broadcast by Fox News on January 6, 2008 in New Hampshire I have blocked WOFL Fox 35 and Fox news channel on my cable box. I plan to never watch any Fox broadcast in the future, not even accidentally while channel surfing.
Stop caring about this Fox debate
Am I the only one that gets it that the Iowa Caucas is before this debate?
When Ron Paul beats ANY of the frontrunners in Iowa, Fox will simply be forced to include Ron Paul in the debate. Why? Because "crazy, loony, whacky, freaky", Ron beating any frontrunner IS news.
And Fox News NOT giving Ron a chance to debate after beating frontrunners in Iowa will make the news on other networks. Fox will have to include Paul just out of shame.
So ease up and keep the eye on the ball: Iowa.
Paul just needs to beat a few frontrunners there and believe me, he'll be all over the press headlines because whoever loses to him will be shamed out of this race.
Ron Paul will do well in Iowa but.......
We should leave nothing to chance. Take the offensive on all fronts. When he does well, like in the top three, it will be a big embaressment for FOX in the short term when Dr. Paul says thanks but no thanks, you folks just talk to yourselves, I've got a Revolution to run, however, it would be nice to see him make the candidates squirm again when he speaks the truth. The other candidates are the same and they don't want the light of truth shinned their way. Like Romney consulting his lawyer before going to war.
Every venue should include Dr. Paul, even the Faux News, where he can make them reveal themselves for what they really are. It was watching Ron Paul on the first Fox News debate and the way they treated him that solidified my support for him and I will never watch FOX or the affiliates again.
Similar treatment will wake others up.
For God and Country!
For God and Country!
I completely agree
I tried to post this as a Forum Topic, but it fell by the wayside. We need to focus on Iowa, the rest will come.
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Seems to me
Seems to me that even though they say they are not owned by fox, flooding their email boxes is what caused them to run the story.
Iowa
They noted that this came after the Iowa caucuses but then again so does the ABC/WMUR-TV full blown debate event on the 5th and he is going to be in that....
Israeli NEOCONS Control Fox News
Ron Paul is the only candidate that has proposed that we stop borrowing money from other countries to then give money to the Israelis and Arabs. Would you borrow money to pay off your neighbors to stop fighting each other? Probablly not, so why are we running up our National Debt to pay off Israel, Egypt and Lebanon? This is absolutely a foolish way to spend our tax dollars and Ron Paul is exposing this nonsense to the millions of people who watch Fox News and they aren't as dumb as you think and could come around and support Ron Paul for President. This is the real reason Fox is trying to silence Ron Paul. But this will only backfire on them as we expose it to our fellow Americans.
The Ron Paul Revolution is growing each minute!
Question on Donations to Ron Paul
I work for a Federal Government Contractor, when I tried to donate money this morning I had to state "truthfully" that I work for such a firm. When I did this, it would not let me. Is this a law now? I've donated money to others in the past, what happened? Please advise.
A direct Federal Government Contractor??
If you're the "owner" and you're self employed directly with the Federal Government then you can't donate.
But if you work for Lockheed Martin or GD (examples), you're NOT a federal contractor, you're an employee of a Federal Contractor and can donate. If you are a sub-contractor under Lockheed or GD (examples) then you're not a "direct" Federal Contractor either. If you're a 1099 for any of these types companies you're not a Federal Contractor. If you're a "partner" of a federal contractor (example - LLC), you as an individual (from your own funds) donate.
Either way, call the campaign to verify it's legit.
RP08
Thanks
Thanks for the info. I am an employee, therefore I will not state that I am a Federal Contractor and donate!!!!!!!!!!
Fed. Gov. contractors
I know of no reason why you would not be able to donate. Perhaps you could call HQ and donate over the phone.
LA Times Editorial Today
The LA Times lead Editoria today is titled "The Blessings of Liberty" in which they slam the current US policy of torture and fear mongering. The editor wants to know who you support for President and why at opinionlat@lattimes.com
This is a perfect opportunity to let other MSMs know about Fox News excluding Ron Paul from their debate/discussion
To read the editorial online go to: http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2007/12/note-from-the-e...
"Obviously not a front runner" says who??
It makes me so angry to hear news-speak like that, I was hoping the original reporter would have fired back or something. I'm so sick of these "national" polls being the measuring stick for popularity, total B.S.
He did retort
The original reporter did say that he consistently polled ahead of Thompson, who is considered a frontrunner and is scheduled to show up at that forum.
If no one thinks you're crazy, you're not dreaming big enough.
Let It Slide
Don't get me wrong: it angers and frustrates me as well. But the fact of the matter is that their minds will not be changed until Ron Paul starts winning primaries. Just keep doing what we are doing: getting the word out, talking to friends and neighbors, and donating to Ron Paul.
fox affiliate covers fox
KPTM appears to be in Omaha, Nebraska
As an Acknowledgement
...I sent Fox 42 an email thanking them for their report. Granted, they probably had been getting complaints about Fox News' exclusion of Paul and wanted to do something to draw a distinction between themselves and the Fox News national organization.
That was surreal...lol
Fox covering..."Fox." I kept looking for Rod Serling (Twilight Zone) to show up somewhere in the video...lol
Keep those cards and letters coming...
It is obvious that the emails and snail mails are having an impact.
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"But the more the Establishment oppressed them,
the more the Ron Paul message multiplied and spread,
and the more alarmed the Establishment became."
- after Exodus 1.12
Why still no South Carolina TV ads?
How was the broke Huckster able to get airtime here in SC roughly 2 weeks ago, but still no ads for Ron Paul? Fortunately, here in SC, some group I never heard of has simultaneously been running ads that have skewered the Huckster to a crisp. (They show video of him campaigning to extract more tribute from his poor subjects in Arkansas. The ads run what seems to be every 15 or 20 minutes on all 3 channels, all day long. I know a couple of warmongers who had thought the Huckster was their man, but no more. They're now really confused.) Still, it's baffling that he was able to get his propaganda on air so quickly, unless he simply received an advance from the beast itself.
Does anyone know when our ads are going to air in SC?
Great story
and a reminder to excercise restraint when a nearly unrestrainable desire to lash out overcomes us.
Iowa?
Is that an Iowa station?
Wow, that
was nice and reasonable. Great video
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
Good coverage
I wish the video had not cut off at the end so we could see how the coverage concluded, but what was there was actually pretty good. He was starting to point out that Ron Paul actually polls higher than Fred Thompson, yet Thompson is invited and Ron Paul is not.
Regardless, I think this will backfire on Fox News in the end. If Ron Paul places strongly in Iowa, they will lose a lot of credibility. If he wins, they will look like utter fools.
This is a strong reminder in this video as well to all Ron Paul supporters: make sure that we are not attacking the wrong people. We need to pause a little more before clicking the send button.