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How to speak about alternative cancer treatment in a credible way?

My father recently was diagnosed with cancer.
He has a bigger problem though emphysema.
But back to cancer. He had an operation just the other day.
They removed part of it, but not everything. Some part of it grew into the muscular structure and given his lung problems and his general weak health, he cannot likely survive a removal of that.

I heard Lindsey Williams mention http://www.alivizatos.com/ But I think that is in Mexico.
I have also seen the Burzynski The Movie ~ Cancer Is Serious Business, But only trials in the USA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsbNJMufVLA
and the G. Edward Griffin - A World Without Cancer - The Story Of Vitamin B17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGsSEqsGLWM
and I know you can be treated with Laetrile. You can´t get that treatment here were we live though.

But anyway my father is due to emphysema to sick to travel anywhere, and he pretty much think anything not mentioned by a doctor is nothing to think of. I have tried to mention apricot seeds, now I don´t know if it will work for a late cancer, but I think, why not try it, not much to lose, if you are going to die anyway !
But I find it a hard talk and I don´t know what to say.
I´m not sure his English is good enough or his strength to watch a movie.

The only option they give him now is radiation 5 times a week, and frankly, given his condition, he does not have the strength(probably) to go back and forth that many times a week.

Then again they said he would die from his lung problem before any cancer, but they gave no time frame, so they obviously have no idea if that statement was true.

But any idea how to sell the idea of at least try some apricot seeds ?, because it is the only thing I can think of now.

It is really hard watching your father suffocate to death, so stop smoking, I did stop this year after I saw him this summer.




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Credible Approach

First of all, I am sorry to hear about your father. It truly must be difficult.

To talk about alternative treatments credibly is an incredibly difficult thing to do. Primarily because most educational and healthcare institutions do not adopt anything that big pharma does not pay them to adopt. However, we can start by pointing out the lack of progress found in conventional methods and their extremely low rates of success. Even for children, in which cancer treatment is much more successful, comes off as anecdotal and can be attributed to the regenerative capacity of young children.

Ultimately, however, we need to break it down to a common language, one that is spoken universally by researchers. Know the effects of treatments on pathways, receptors, cells, and mind. Unfortunately, short of dedicating your life to the study of these things, it can seem like an impossible task.

Your father listens to physicians, you say? Find a holistic physician. I came across a patient who had their pregnancy induced Grave's disease cured by lemon balm and mother's wort. Although that is not cancer, it is considered an irreversible disorder.

Best of luck to you and yours!

"Hello, my name is Andrew Ryan and I'm here to ask you a question: is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

Cannabis Oil Fights Cancer

This post is not to promote cannabis, - only for its medicinal uses. Even opiates are used for medicine. I had posted the links below in the "Marijuana" thread yesterday.
The alcohol /liquor lobby is working against marijuana.

Oil extracted from the marijuana plant has been shown to have extraordinary cancer-fighting properties.
Studies have demonstrated that (isolated chemical components of cannabis), such as THC (tetrahydrocannibinal) and CBD (cannabidiol), can shrink tumors, and some reports suggest that the whole plant extracts are more effective than the isolated cannabinoids. Watch Video: http://dotsub.com/media/fc4e051a-1709-4e63-8a2c-912b09486c9f...

www.naturalnews.com/033757_cannabis_oil_cancer_cure.html
3 Oct 2011 – Examples include a patient, who managed to completely cure his skin cancer by simply applying cannabis oil onto the affected areas of the skin ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_Cannabis

Please look into IV Vitamin C

It has pulled cancer patients out of the death bed.
Best of luck to you and your father.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Your father's condition...

...seems to be a match for the clinic mentioned in this quote from the cancertutor.com website:

"This American clinic is an absolute must for lung cancer patients who have emphysema!! The Nevada Center of Alternative & Anti-Aging Medicine of Dr. Frank Shallenberger, M.D. has treated many cancer patients. In his clinic he uses ozone, hydrogen peroxide and Insulin Potentiation Therapy (IPT). I should note that his IPT technology is state-of-the-art. He actually uses several different treatments for different situations. Here is his website:
Nevada Center of Alternative and Anti-Aging Medicine [Nevada]"

The most comprehensive alternative cancer treatment info website that I've ever seen - deals with some other chronic disease cures also:
http://cancertutor.com/index.html

Hope you find the help you need.

don't even speak about it.

don't even speak about it. give anyone suffering from it a video on gerson therapy and leave it at that. you can watch all the documentaries about gerson therapy free on youtube.

the laws do not even allow you to speak very intelligently about it without going to jail when you speak the truth about it(1st amendment is a joke now), which is part of the hegemony the pharmaceutical industry wanted all along.

there is a huge problem within the alternative health care industry, the anti-gmo movement and others who use really bad language to present facts. when you're educating someone or talking to your congress person about the monopoly on food production the biotech industry has secured for itself, you don't want to use terms like 'frankenfood'. same with 'chemtrails' and crap like that. i don't mean to demonize the efforts. i just think we can present the facts in a more intelligent way.

"I´m not sure his English is good enough"

Not sure what your father's native language is so here's links for Spanish, but you can also easily find them for about 5 other languages through a quick search of "Burzynski Movie [type language]" or on the site itself.

Here's the link to a Spanish subtitle trailer for the movie:
http://vodpod.com/watch/11056296-1-burzynski-the-movie-trail...

And here's one for a Spanish Transcript about the movie along with link to get a fully spanish translated version (spoken, not just subtitles):
http://www.burzynskimovie.com/index.php?option=com_content&v...

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lo siento

Upon closer reading, tt turns out that the movies only come with foreign language subtitles instead of spoken dialogue.

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I have done a lot of research on this subject over the years

So I sent you a contact message with some links and some info from a friend who is studying natural medicine. I hope it helps.
The Gerson therapy uses cottage cheese and flax seed oil (see Charlotte Gerson videos)
Every morning I make a smoothie for breakfast using the cottage cheese and flax seed oil as a cancer preventative for my husband and I.
RECIPE
1/4 C. cottage cheese (or quark)
2 Tablespoons flax seed oil
some fruit (grapes, peaches, bananas, etc)
milk or water
A scoop of whey protein powder.
I mix it using a Magic Bullet.

I thought the flax seed cottage cheese was the Budwig diet?

Just wondering because I did some reading a while back and thought that the top alternative treatments were, Gerson, Budwig, Kelly and Gonzales enzyme therapy.

LivingTheDream

I stand corrected---I think you are right! Charlotte Gerson did

suggest Cottage cheese and flax oil in an interview with Kevin Gianni-Renegade Health, and she credited Dr. Gerson.
Kevin Gianni recently put on the online Healing Cancer World Summit and I listened to some of the sessions and I paid to have access to all of the others.
http://www.renegadehealth.com/cancer/index-page.html
These 2 hour programs are an excellent source of information from the experts in alternative treatments for cancer!

Did you know?

Did you know that new research shows that marijuana actually kills cancer cells... rather than creating them? It actually causes them to eat themselves in a process called "autophage".

Also, instead of killing brain cells, studies show it actually promotes the growth of new brain cells?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155-marijuana-might-c...

Cancer Studies:

THC (marijuana) helps cure cancer says Harvard study

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

Marijuana Chemical May Fight Brain Cancer
Active Component In Marijuana Targets Aggressive Brain Cancer Cells, Study Says

http://www.webmd.com/cancer/brain-cancer/news/20090401/marij...

Did you know that the cannabinoid receptor is the most prevalent cellular receptor in our brains?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_receptor

This mystery began to unravel in 1964, when tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the main psychoactive chemical in cannabis was isolated and synthesized by Raphael Mechoulam and colleagues in Israel. Subsequently, in 1988, Allyn Howlett and colleagues discovered the cannabinoid receptor in the brain. This receptor called CB1was a precise match for the unique chemicals called cannabinoids found in the cannabis plant (phytocannabinoids). This initial discovery led to scientists hypothesizing that humans are "wired" for cannabis. The CB1receptors have been found in the brain in areas that control the coordination of movement, emotions, memory, reduction of pain, reward systems, and reproduction, yet are almost absent in the brain stem (which affects our vital functions such as breathing). It appears that cannabinoid receptors, which modulate other neurotransmitter function in a retrograde “on demand” fashion are present in far higher concentrations in the brain than any other receptor. While the CB1 receptors are primarily found in the central nervous system, a second type, CB2, discovered in 1993, are found primarily in the immune system, GI tract, liver, spleen, kidney, bones, heart, and peripheral nervous system. In fact, the CB2 receptor appears to be up-regulated whenever there is tissue pathology.

Did you know that the government actually has the patent on medical marijuana... for use in fighting diseases such as cancer, Crohn's disease, multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's disease and more?

And yet they repeatedly say that there is "no medical use" for marijuana.

Look it up. U.S. Patent #6630507

It's like a MIRACLE DRUG because the endocannabinoid system in your body controls so much chemically... by stimulating this system, many positive effects can occur in many different organs of the body.

If you don’t believe me, check out the studies at www.pubmed.gov … just type “cannabinoids” and “cancer” in the search bar and you’ll see the results of the HUNDREDS of studies that show that the THC in marijuana actually kills cancer cells, both in human tissue cultures and in animals. But… they won’t let us do studies on humans because mj has been labeled the “devil’s weed”. HA!

But there is plenty of anecdotal evidence. (People who didn't want to wait on the government to legalize medical marijuana to help with their illness. We've been waiting over 40 years, after all.) I have been in correspondence with the head of the biology dept at a major university in Colorado, and he's knows people personally who have used super-concentrated cannabis oil to CURE their cancer. His own girlfriend got rid of her skin cancer completely applying cannabis oil topically. You can also find video diaries on the internet of people who have gotten rid of skin cancer using cannabis oil. Also video diaries of people who have had miraculous healing of 3rd degree burns. One video diary I found had an AIDS patient who was ingesting the oil and cut his T-cell count from over 800 to around 400 in just a few weeks.

Rick Simpson has cured hundreds of people over the last few years and has plenty of written and videoed testimony. Google "Run from the Cure".

If you want to see the enormous number of medical conditions that marijuana is GOOD for, check this out…

http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana/436257-granny-s...

This is a video everyone should watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yxlCDtOlSM

I too have

researched a ton of stuff about Hydrogen Peroxide, and it's at least possible that it might save your father's life. Please keep us posted, and may God bless you and yours.

God Bless you and your father m72mc

I believe that when it's your time to go, you go, therefore, think good thoughts, be positive, strive to be happy and make peace.

My birth-father was diagnosed with mantle cell lymphoma, a lymph cancer, 10 years ago, they gave him 18 mos. My mother was diagnosed with esophegial cancer and didn't last a month, though her cancer was not very progressed (I think she died from depression of having the cancer and lack of care, support from my birth father).

I myself had a lumpectomy for breast cancer two years ago, I refused radiation, I refused medication, I didn't do almond seeds, or silver, or peroxide.. I just took care of myself and I've been cancer free two years.

My birth-father says cancer is no big deal.. everyone who was diagnosed with his kind is dead, He claims he's a Mean SOB (he is) and that might also be positive thinking.

I lift your father up in prayer, and you, your family, that you find good health returning with vigor and happiness!

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It is so sad to watch irresponsible

doctors bamboozle patients into harmful treatments. In any given case, there is no guarantee alternatives would work, but even when a patient cannot be saved, quality of life with alternatives is so much higher. Many good links in this thread.

I'll make this short and sweet:

Here's your father's Emphysema cure ...

http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozid...

I don't know how many studies/reports/articles I've read over the years that support this claim that inhaling and drinking 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide totally decimates lung cancer and Emphysema, as well as all cancers. You can also have a specialist administer it through the blood.

Print this article off and have your father read it, it will more than likely save his life.

You have to dilute the 35% FGHP to 3%.

Read this book too ... "The One Minute Cure" ,

http://files.meetup.com/562554/OneMinuteCure.pdf

There are some YouTube videos that show how to use the 35% Food Grade HP, look them up and watch and learn.

Here's where you can buy it ..

http://store.chemicalbargains.net/hype35fogr.html

Cancer is caused by a lack of oxygen at the cellular level. Otto Warburg discovered this in 1931. No advances in cancer research have been made since this time.

Your father needs OXYGENATION in his lung tissue and his entire body.

Sounds too simple eh? ... Read those articles I posted above and do some research.

Good Luck my friend.

Thanks for the links!

Browsing through the One Minute Cure...looks good.

See if he will listen to you read

or read books himself.

Flor-Essence by FLORA is an effective form of Essiac tea. Very easy to prepare, very effective. See if you can find literature on Essiac in your father's native language. I've drank it...doesn't taste too bad.

Oxygen kills cancer cells and helps the lungs...can he get supplemental oxygen?

Macrobiotics has much to say about lung support...they would have him cut out ALL dairy (and be prepared to expel a lot of gook) and emphasize lotus root. Macrobiotics is pretty cheap...brown rice does wonders for cancer.

I would also look at Udo Erasmus' book Fats that Heal, Fats the Kill.

The following website looks kooky but this woman cured herself of cancer and I've read books about most of the therapies she has mentioned- it sounds like a great plan to me:
http://cancer-cure.xanga.com/

Best wishes...let us know how he's doing!

Millet and PR Effort

That's a crappy situation that I've been through myself with family members that didn't work out unfortunately for the same "I'll only do what the doctor tells me" mentality.

#1 Don't even bother mentioning Laetrile, Apricot seeds, etc. Just tell him you've taken up cooking and want him to try the millet(a grain like quinoa) recipe you've been working on. Millet is rich in B17, but not as much as Apricot seeds. You could also chop up some of the apricot seeds and put them into the millet along with some salsa, carrots, etc. for a richer taste. Our parents did this sort of thing with our food when we were young so why not return the favor? Plus the argument is that it's easier for his digestion should work too since it's true.

#2 Start printing up little cards, flyers, etc. with the pink ribbon and phrases like "Cure Found" and "Burzynski" with a website link or QR code. I'm actually working on doing this very thing right now. Put the buscards, flyers, etc. on the windshield under the wiper window of every automobile you see with any kind of breast cancer ribbon or other cancer paraphernalia.

#3 Organize a screening of the Burzynski movie at a local college which is usually free to do and start promoting it including getting local press. Letters to the Editor work well.

The whole point of #2 & #3 is to address the "only do what the doctor tells me mentality" because if you can generate enough attention to the point someone other than yourself like a reporter recommends Burzynski and/or B17, you'll have a shot at changing their mind because someone "in authority" is mentioning it.

Best of luck and I'll try posting my pro Burzynski site on the DP when it's done.

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As far as the emphysema goes......

I don't know much about it, but are you all familiar with a neti pot? Those things really help very well with colds, little or big.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Oh, so sorry to hear......

m72mc.

I found THIS thread to hold the most important cancer info I have ever encountered. Hope it helps, my thoughts are with you.

http://www.dailypaul.com/130992/the-cause-of-cancer-was-disc...

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks