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Greenwald: Congress endorsing military detention, a new AUMF

Brilliant as usual

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/01/congress_endorsing_military_...

Excerpt:

One of the nation’s most stalwart war cheerleaders and one of the bill’s most vocal proponents, Sen. Lindsey Graham, made clear what the provision’s intent is: “If you’re an American citizen and you betray your country, you’re not going to be given a lawyer . . . I believe our military should be deeply involved in fighting these guys at home or abroad.” As Graham made chillingly clear, one key effect of the provision is that the U.S. military — rather than domestic law enforcement agencies — will be used to apprehend and imprison accused Terrorists on American soil, including U.S. citizens.

In doing so, Graham and the bill he supports — exactly like all those who supported Obama’s due-process-free assassination of Anwar Awlaki – have apparently decided simply to dispense with Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution, which provides that nobody can be punished for treason without heightened due process requirements being met. In that regard, compare (a) Graham’s pronouncement (widely shared by those supporting Awlaki’s assassination) that “if you’re an American citizen and you betray your country, you’re not going to be given a lawyer” to (b) the Constitutional requirement in Art. III, Sec. 3 that “No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.” To deny a citizen the right to a lawyer and go to court on the ground that they’ve “betrayed their country” and thus deserve to be imprisoned without a trial (or, worse, to be assassinated without one) is a violent a betrayal of the U.S. Constitution as one can imagine, literally.

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lindsey Graham and Treason

I guess that means we can now Arrest Lindsey Graham (Centrist) and some of the US Chamber of Commerce Centrist leaders for allowing/helping illegal labor to displace legal US citizens out of their Jobs . While at the same time risking home land security. I'll be voting against Lindsey (scumbag) Graham this year to. Here Lindsey iilii.

Clinton/Bush/Obama: Centrist losers with their hand held out looking for a Government Bail Out Program to keep their Dividend checks propped up with Artificial Stimulus "False Profit. Welfare for stock market Gamblers.

Time to remind everyone

We need to bring up the MIAC report and post copies of it when we respond to articles about this bill. For those that don't know, it was a CIA/FBI/Military report that told law enforcement to be "suspicious" of people with Ron Paul bumber stickers, owned the movie Freedom to Fascism, protested the FED, etc....

Wonder where that line is between dissent and "betrayal" ??

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Why didn't you post it then

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Well....

A. I don't have any of it on the computer I am currently using.

B. It was a suggestion for the many articles about the bill, many of which I may not see or know about.

C. I don't know how to post documents on DP - sorry, I'm not a techie.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

I love this part...

"I’ve described this little scam before as “Villain Rotation”: “They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it.”

They make deals based upon who can least afford to be the "villain" each go around.

But I think it is a BIG DEAL for Congress to make "legal" what is unlawful and immoral, and I don't agree with Greenwald's attitude here:
"..as odious and definitively radical as the powers are which this bill endorses, it doesn’t actually change the status quo all that much. That’s because the Bush and Obama administrations have already successfully claimed most of the powers in the bill, and courts have largely acquiesced. To be sure, there are dangers to having Congress formally codify these powers. But a powerful sign of how degraded our political culture has become is that this bill — which in any other time would be shockingly extremist — actually fits right in with who we are as a nation and what our political institutions are already doing. To be perfectly honest, I just couldn’t get myself worked up over a bill that, with some exceptions, does little more than formally recognize and codify what our Government is already doing."

With respect to this comment:

But I think it is a BIG DEAL for Congress to make "legal" what is unlawful and immoral, and I don't agree with Greenwald's attitude here

Greenwald does not explicitly say it in that quote, but his point is, most of this stuff was already written into law. Bush claimed the authority to indefinitely detain Americans; Obama expanded that power and added torture to his list of what he could do to us, with his High Value Detainee Interrogation Groups.

All that's happening now is a renewal of interest in old travesties, along with some tweaking to how they sabotage our rights.

Glenn Greenwald is a national

Glenn Greenwald is a national treasure and should be on every Ron Paul supporter's must read everyday list.

One more try

And one more quote:

If someone had said before September 11 that the Congress would be on the verge of enacting a bill to authorize military detention inside the U.S., it would be hard to believe. If someone had said after September 11 (or even after the 2006 and 2008 elections) that a Democratic-led Senate — more than ten years later, and without another successful attack on U.S. soil — would be mandating the indefinite continuation of Guantanamo and implementing an expanded AUMF, that, too, would have been hard to believe. But that’s exactly what Congress, with the active participation of both parties, is doing. And the most amazing part of it all is that it won’t change much, because that is more or less what Washington, without any statutory authorization, has already done. That’s how degraded our political culture is: what was once unthinkable now barely prompts any rational alarm — not because it’s not alarming, but because it’s become so normalized.