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Republican Jewish Coalition Bars Ron Paul From Presidential Debate, Saying He's Too "misguided and extreme"

Paul was not invited to attend the RJC's candidates forum because the organization - as it has stated numerous times in the past - "rejects his misguided and extreme views," said [RJC Executive Director Matt] Brooks.

"He's just so far outside of the mainstream of the Republican party and this organization," Brooks said. Inviting Paul to attend would be "like inviting Barack Obama to speak."

Full story:
http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/01/republican-jewish-coalitio...

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RJC Blowback?

The Republican Jewish Coalition's decision to not permit Ron Paul to participate could be what my high school Latin teacher used to call a "blessing in disguise."

The invited candidates will be wildly raising the bidding in this auction for the pro-Israel lobby vote.

If the electorate at large has any wits left at all, this could lead to a needed discussion as to what special interest groups (including not least of all the pro-Israel lobby) influence foreign policy. The lumpenproletariat, if spurred on by activists and a minority of opinion molders could start realizing that the current policy is unwise, puts us at greater risk, and is costly in men and money.

So let's hope the RJC's action has what RP would call "blowback."

Working in RPs favor is the fact that the 999 clown has driven off in his tiny pizza delivery vehicle, and RP has taken a strong stance against participating in the "debate" moderated by the clown with the dead cat on his head.

WJM

WJ Malan

Bazaaro world... how is this a Debate?

This just shows how squirrely things have become, why call it a debate if the qualification for participation demands everyone agree with those holding the 'debate'?

It's not a debate...

...it's a b*tt kissin' session.

"I support the Declaration of Independence and I interpret the Constitution."

Pre-screened debate

Everyone comes with the same ideas, more or less, and completely avoid any pesky dissent, any different opinions.

What is beautiful about events that Dr. Paul doesn't attend is that he looms so large. I generally watch only the 90 seconds of Dr. Paul someone posts here. It cuts all the crap. I may watch this upcoming debate however, just to see how they handle the trillion pound elephant in the room.

I hope this means a restful night for the campaign. Ha

Money will buy you a fine dog, but only love can make it wag its tail. -Friedman

Americans for Israel

Our politicians cannot claim to be “supporters of Israel” while they continue to finance Israel’s enemies three fold with OUR tax money.

Our politicians cannot continue to brand themselves as “friends of Israel” while undermining Israel’s right to defend itself when it chooses.

Our politicians must have basic foresight and recognize the concept of “blowback”— that selling weapons to terrorist nations will come back to haunt both us and Israel.

http://www.americansforisrael.com/

Arms Trade - Policy is to sell to any buyer

#1 Exporter is the US. The arms trade is big business and represents a considerable percentage of total US exports. We supply anyone either directly or indirectly.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/74/the-arms-trade-is-big...

Top Defense Contractors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_contractor

When politicians speak of the rising threat of the "Chinese Military" they are referring to the threat of global arms trade competition from their growing military industrial sector, not direct war with China.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

May I remind you...

that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.

Israeli anti-American Jew ad campaign

Saw this - Israel had a 5 US city ad campaign that stated that American Jews are out of touch with Israel.

"Are American Jews unfit to marry Israelis?" http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2011/1202/Are-Am...

Why would the RJC support a country that does not view them as being equal?

Are not the views expressed in this Israeli Government Campaign..... "Extreme" ?

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

Wow! How generous of Matt Brooks

No doubt Matt Brooks felt he was being generous when he conceded that "We certainly respect Congressman Paul's right to run...", yet in the same breath he denigrated Ron Paul as misguided and extreme. What an interesting blend of political correctness and vitriol. So that is Matt and the Republican Jewish Coalition's corrupt offering (to the evil ones who are usurping the levers of power of this country) as a means to keep the truth confined.

-Bloatedtoad

What else should you expect...

What else should you expect from an entire race of child-mutilators?

I thank the Good Lord several times a day that my parents weren't child-mutilators - I'm still whole.

Freedom is my Worship Word!

Haha... because they circumcise?

Now, I may not understand the origins of the pactice... For whatever reason, I seem to remember that it was 'secret sign' that you were 'one of us' - a Jew. If that is accurate... if you think about, that is pretty cool. Who is gonna slice up their penis just to spy on some people? So - if they were suspicious of someone - "Show me your penis"... "Excuse me?" - "You heard me, whip it out."

Anyway, lots of Christians are circumcised too (I am... but I chose to end the line, my son is not).

An entire race of

An entire race of child-mutilators? What?

Comedy Central with Jon Stewart....

Contact him and tell him your opinion...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/

Here is what I wrote (borrow parts if you like it)

Do you know Ron Paul has been banned from this RJC debate Dec 7th? Yes its true! The GOP "debate" over Israel will not include the one person who has something different to say, Ron Paul! They said to invite Ron Paul to the debate "was like inviting President Obama to the debate". Oh my gawd! Oh really? I didn't know that President Obama wants to end all foreign aid to Israel and let them deal with their neighbors & enemies as they see fit? I didn't know that President Obama, like Dr. Paul, wants to stop arming all of Israels enemies with both weapons and foreign aid. Really? Dr. Paul is like Pres. Obama? Sorry I didn't see that one coming. Seriously, what "debate" can the GOP possibly have? An "I-love-Israel-more-than-my-mother" debate? Mitt Romney wants to FLY THERE immediately after he's elected! Really?! "Forget those New York bagels, I'm off to get those Tel Aviv bagels!?"

Please invite Ron Paul to your show Wed Dec 7th to discuss this. If its true that 77% of American Jews want to see peace in the middle east and they are against war, well this is one guy who walks the walk.

Here is what the RJC said:

The RJC "rejects his misguided and extreme views," ...said [RJC Executive Director Matt] Brooks.
"He's just so far outside of the mainstream of the Republican party and this organization," Brooks said. Inviting Paul to attend would be "like inviting Barack Obama to speak."

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Will The Jews Let Ron Paul Win?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OYY5doGI2g&feature=player_em...!

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I posted this

I completely understand why the RJC would NOT want to invite Congressman Paul to the up-coming debate. He is un-qualified to be there. Unlike all of the other candidates, he is not a liar, not a thief and not a murderer. Clearly disqualifies him. Congressman Paul is also the only candidate who wants to stop arming and aiding the enemies of Israel. How ridiculous would THAT be? Thank you for giving Dr. Paul a plausible excuse for not having to put on a charade with the killers, thieves and liars.

Not too surprising

It makes you realize how far off base the other republican candidates are FROM the constitution.

Sad really.

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There are Jews and there are Zionists

The RJC is clearly a Zionist organization, who is interested in controlling the destiny of the USA, Israel and the rest of the world. They are a nasty bunch. Ordinary Jews are just fine, no problem. But beware the zionists.

See the current Brother Nathanael video (Rense.com) and he explains it beautifully.

This is sour grapes because Dr. Paul doesn't cosy up to the Israeli lobby (Zionist) or AIPAC (Zionist). All the other candidates do, especially Gingrich. That is pretty bad, but it is no surprise.

My Letter to Republican Jewish Coalition

Sent to
press@rjchq.org
akredo@washingtonjewishweek.com

To Whom it Concerns:

I'm Jewish. I support Ron Paul. I have met many other Jewish people who feel as I do.

I am extremely upset and offended that your organization has decided to bar Ron Paul in your upcoming presidential forum due to his non-interventionist foreign policy positions which your organization labeled as "misguided and extreme". Whether you like it or not, there are many Jews that agree with Ron Paul's foreign policy positions.

Also, as a matter of fact, Ron Paul has been polling in double digits, is consistently polling in the top 3 or 4 in the last few months, has had incredible fund raising, consistently is winning or placing 2nd in straw polls around the country, and has wide spread support around the country. He is clearly a top tier candidate and should be at least offered the opportunity to present his positions in an open forum of presidential candidates.

Though I personally side with Israel, I think the US government should not interfere in Middle Eastern (or any foreign, sovereign nation's) politics. Israel has repeatedly shown to be more than capable to handle their own problems, and certainly does not need the tacit help or approval of the US government to defend itself. Additionally, history has repeatedly shown that US government interventions in the Middle East, even if well intended, often have disastrous consequences for the region as a whole and for Israel directly. People want to help Israel they can certainly offer their help personally with money or time. I do not consider these views I and many other Jews and Ron Paul holds as "misguided and extreme" as your organization recently said of Ron Paul's foriegn policy positions.

There is time to reconsider your foolish and shameful decision to bar Ron Paul in your upcoming presidential forum. Do the right thing: invite him to attend in the upcoming presidential forum.

Sincerely,

My full name and address

good job

Great letter - keep it up. Rally up like-minded Jews. There are a lot of them out there, including in Israel.

jj

Headline and Text Differ

The word "too" in the headline, did someone from that organization say Ron's views are too extreme? Looks as though too wasn't said. If it wasn't, then why is too in the headline?

Here's the passage that contradicts the use of too in the headline:

"...because the organization...rejects his misguided and extreme views," said RJC Executive Director Matt Brooks.

How about:

Director of Republican Jewish Coalition says Ron Paul has Misguided and Extreme Views, Bars Paul from Debate.

Acceptable headline?

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dumb

This is stupid, unfair and just wrong. Not all Jews are like this. Not all Jews think they can ban a top tier candidate from a debate just because they disagree with him.

Not all Jews are for wars etc.

This is a sad day for Israel.

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Like the Fed, it's sister creation, it is difficult for most

people to understand Zionism's true agenda. Zionism, like the Fed, is a creation by the House of Rothschild, and is both unbiblical to Christians and Torah following Jews. The Rothschild Banking cartel and the other Jewish elites who run Wall Street, the media, Hollywood, ect, are Frankist/Sabbatean Jews who desire to create world domination for their god, Lucerfer, to reside. They are self serving, who have no problem sacrificing the common Jews, as in Germany to reach their goals. Read this statement by a top Rabbi in 1948 to back my point http://www.nkusa.org/Historical_Documents/tenquestions.cfm
The official book of Israel, and the guidance used by these people is the Babylonian Talmud, the writings of the Pharisses, who proclaimed their teachings were superior to the teachings of the Torah. Read here, to learn about the Talmud (if you note at the top of Hoffman's article, he is against racism, as he only desires for Jew's to understand how following this book is unethical, and for Christian's to learn why many Jew's do the things they do)http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
If you read the Balfour Declaration you can see who's behind Zionism http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/balfour.asp

Most people, especially Christian's who believe in Zionism, are persuaded using deceptive tricks, learned by ministers from the Scofield Reference Bible (backed by Rothschild agents Untermeyer, Baruch, Schiff, ect, the same people who 'really' created the Fed. Untermeyer wrote the laws for the Fed in 1910, 3yrs prior to its creatin) . I, myself was tricked into this Zionism hoax, by this trickery. However, I was fortunate enough, by the grace of Christ, to awaken to these blasphemous teachings, when the Zionist ministers started to promote the nuking of Iran. My Christian spirit told me that the murdering of thousands of innocent people, was severely wrong, in the eyes of God. The very next day, I heard a Dr Paul soundbyte on local Houston radio, talking about these 'unjust' wars, and the propositions being made about an attack on Iran, a nation that is no threat to us. I had heard about Dr Paul, being a Congressman from an adjacent district, but didn't know much about his great adherence to the Constitution. That evening after I ask forgiveness for my sins of following Zionism, I researched Dr Paul, and have been a diehard supporter ever since. I have also, since being deceived, spent many hours studying Zionism, and have determined it was made to be complicit in the destruction of not only our nation, but Christianity, 'real' Judaism, Islam, and the other religions that have given a moral guidence to all humanity. All of these religions, have been undermined to create hatred against each other, allowing the satanic power of Lucifer to gain a foothold in our realm. Unless, people take time to research and stand against these deceptions, the entire world will be doomed. Christians need only to read Rev 2:9 to understand what is being created in the Holy Land. Even, if you are an atheist, you should still research Zionism, to understand what is transpiring in the world.

Ah God, this bullshit again.

Ah God, this bullshit again.

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Jewish Community & sub-categories

Is the Jewish community profiling?? Isn't this what they fought? Maybe they aren't aware that there is 2 sub-categories to the GOP. The actual Old-School Party & the Neo-Cons.

Maybe we should separate & start the OSP (Old School Party).

Lumping Dr. Paul into the Neo-Con GOP is an ignorant & dangerous assumption.

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Complete Debate Schedule

I really don't know what debate they are discussing in this article. I'm not familiar with the Republican Jewish Coalition sponsoring any of the debates.

Here's the most comprehensive debate schedule I could find:
http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-sche...

Exactly what Jeff65

Exactly what Jeff65 said.Backfire not Blowback.

"Give me Liberty or give me death." Patrick Henry

Backfire not Blowback

We need to put our heads together to find ways to make this backfire on the RJC. I think blowback would hurt Ron Paul's cause.

One idea I had was to do with a commenter farther down that said he knew people in Israel that were gathering together as Israel Libertarians that supported Ron Paul. Could they be encouraged to have a protest against the RJC and their treatment of Ron Paul?

Similar events elsewhere?

Find out who the RJC really is and what the stand for.

Let's make some POSITIVE news and make a huge deal of this in a positive way.

Missing the debate is not a big deal.

Missing this debate is probably not that big deal for Ron Paul, but I think the potential to turn this around on the RJC and make it work to boost Dr. Paul is really big.

Let's not paint "the jews" with a broad brush

the way Matt Brooks is painting us.

This is probably the subject

This is probably the subject I'm have the least expertise on concerning Ron, but actually you don't have to know anything else then the same principles he expresses over and over and over.In this case : individualism, constitutionality, natural law & what our founding fathers taught us.
I'm glad some who are closer to the subject support Ron and understand the compassion and love behind he message, he doesn't want to give fish, he wants to teach how to fish if you get my drift.

I'll stop there before I go completely off subject, this is depression me to much.

ps : As we send email etc... lets remember to follow Ron's example even if it's hard.

"Give me Liberty or give me death." Patrick Henry