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Ron Paul, Zionist

From The Atlantic - snip:

There are good reason to include Ron Paul [in tomorrow's Republican Jewish Coalition beauty contest]. He is, in one sense, a true Zionist, a believer in two core values of the Jewish liberation movement: Jewish independence and Jewish self-reliance. Independence is self-explanatory; self-reliance, in the context of national defense, holds that the Jewish state shouldn't seek the help of foreign soldiers to defend it.

I was struck in the foreign policy debate by something Rick Perry said, when asked about a looming confrontation between Iran and Israel: "(I)f we're going to be serious about saving Israel, we better get serious about Syria and Iran, and we better get serious right now."

"Saving Israel" should ideally be Israel's job...

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Yes, but if there's one thing

Yes, but if there's one thing in life I learned, is why worry about Israel when all the hot women are in Brazil?

BUNDALELE!

good to lighten things up--

I think sometimes it's easy to take *ourselves* too seriously about all this!

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

israel doesn't care about the

israel doesn't care about the jews in iran because they have refused to emigrate to israel even upon being offered massive amounts of money to do so

All paper money eventually returns to its real intrinsic value, zero. - Voltaire

Are you talking about Israel,

Are you talking about Israel, or the neoconservative's bastard twin, Likud?

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No

...he is not a Zionist.

Read It

"I understand that this does not make Ron Paul a Zionist in the traditional American conception of the word. But in some ways, he understands Zionism in much the same way the original Zionists understood the term."

The point is, self-reliance, independence. Ron Paul supports those ideas.

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Oh Please! Don't make me BARF!

Don't associate Ron Paul's good name with the white phosphorous terror bombing/burning/murder of 1000 innocent Palestinian civilians....or the deliberate MURDER of 37 USS sailors on the USS Liberty...or the destabilization of the entire of Central Asia...and yes, the Mossad even played a key operational role in the 9/11 attacks.

Have a look at this mind-bending website epic linked below (entiteld FORBIDDEN HISTORY) before you apply that filthy "Z" word to the good doctor.
Read this: http://www.TomatoBubble.com/id133.html

Never heard of that website;

THANKS!

Concise and quick...I like the read!

Totally validates my over-arching basic arguments(often through too many words and much emotion!); We live in a world where "good men" MUST battle against men who are sinfully bent on "spoiling government to their turn" and acquiesce selfishly to do harm to others(their human equals) in the process.

In God's sight, the hearts of ALL men are open, transparent, and their imaginations and motives are well-known and will judged! In man's sight, it can also also known whether another man(in passing) serves his Creator or money...we call this 'discernment', a gift given to the humble man, who likewise acknowledges "...all men are created equal..."

Ecclesiastes 1:9 - "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."

lies lies and more lies

You take all the valid knowledge and warnings about a new world order, economic integration and the like and dilute it to a fringe theory no one cares about.

You foolishly support "histories" that imply feudalism and the Church's power in Europe was a good thing. A bunch of enlightenment-era deists want to end religion and the monarchy and you are AGAINST THAT?

Guess you aren't aware of the Illuminati's role in creating the concept of the CITIZEN in Europe? Or how Jefferson supported them and said their struggle was one with the American struggle.

You don't know anything about history or Israel. You are just another idiot parroting anti-Jewish lies. Israel is not the source of all problems. America and the EU is more to blame than Israel.

Check out http://ronpaulforums.com for activism and news.

My response is, "The Israel

My response is, "The Israel Lobby".

wait a minute--

the other situations may or may not be valid, but the USS Liberty did happen; I remember it well, and I remember that it was covered up.

Discussing that is pro-American, not anti-Israel.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I think you are anti

I think you are anti Palestinian. Those of us who khow what really happens in Israel need to hold people like you accountable for your bigotry toward the other Semites, the Palestinians.

Ha ha!

The real Zionist agenda is to be like a parasite on the bodies of huge nations like USA, European Union, etc. giving marching orders to them in their Zionist war on Islam.

The philosophy of liberty applied to foreign policy

I love the way Ron Paul can re-frame the argument on the side of liberty and independence.

I sent Jeffrey Goldberg a thank you email.

I also quoted Benjamin Netanyahu on Israel's security.