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The Pact: The Secret Alliance Between Newt Gingrich & Bill Clinton

Has anyone here read this book? Not me, (not yet) and it didn't make the Daily Paul's Top 10 list of books, but it sure sounds interesting - and relevant!

Description from Amazon:

Most Americans saw President Bill Clinton and Speaker Newt Gingrich as staunch foes--"the polar extremes of Pennsylvania Avenue." But as Steven Gillon reveals in The Pact, these powerful adversaries formed a secret alliance in 1997, a pact that would have rocked the political landscape, had it not foundered in the wake of the Lewinsky scandal.

A fascinating look at politics American-style, The Pact offers a riveting account of two of America's most charismatic and influential leaders, detailing both their differences and their striking similarities, and highlighting the profound and lasting impact the tumultuous 1960s had on both their personal and political lives.

With the cooperation of both President Clinton and Speaker Gingrich, interviews with key players who have never before spoken about their experiences, along with unprecedented access to Gingrich's private papers, Gillon not only offers a behind-the-scenes look at the budget impasse and the government shutdown in 1995--the famous face-off between Clinton and Gingrich--but he also reveals how the two moved closer together after 1996--closer than anyone knew.

In particular, the book illuminates their secret efforts to abandon the liberal and conservative wings of their own parties and strike a bi-partisan deal to reform the "third rail of American politics"--Social Security and Medicare. That potentially groundbreaking effort was swept away by the highly charged reaction to the Lewinsky affair, ending an initiative that might have transformed millions of American lives.

Packed with compelling new revelations about two of the most powerful and intriguing figures of our time, this book will be must reading for everyone interested in politics or current events.

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Remember!!!

Both of these guys are Council on Foreign Relations members and thus have a "ruling class elitism" about themselves.
Why else do you think the FED has been protected all these years?
Gingrich would have never been allowed to become Speaker if he was too critical of the FED, Bill would not have been allowed for the same reasons.
What WILL be interesting in the book is if the author explores this CFR connection to any serious degree.
Think about these two men's morals... about the same don't you think?
We must elect only Americanists to office if we hope to save liberty.

Let's help Ron Paul win!

O U R P L A N = R O N P U A L (Coinsidence? I think not.)

I Think it highly probable Newt a functional Sociopath

which is quite frightening. Born devoid of empathy they revel in the wake of chaos they create through manipulation. The more I read of his past exploits and the more past interviews I watch the greater convinced I become. You need not encompass all the below characteristics. There is a scale of which he appears to score quite high.

The article shared earlier is but one more confirmation.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/12/06/...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist

Dr. Hare's Checklist (Sociopathic Traits)

1. GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM -- the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Sociopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A sociopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Sociopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

3. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM -- an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Sociopaths often have low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.

4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.

5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one's victims.

6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and un empathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.

7. SHALLOW AFFECT -- emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.

8. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY -- a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.

9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE -- an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.

10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR -- a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

12. EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.

13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.

14. IMPULSIVITY -- the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

15. IRRESPONSIBILITY -- repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.

16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS -- a failure to accept responsibility for one's actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

17. MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS -- a lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

18. JUVENILE DELINQUENCY -- behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.

19. REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE -- a revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

20. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY -- a diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.

HopeRenewed - 6/13/2011
Neither should we sacrifice Liberty for Safety nor Integrity for Concessions. True Liberty can not exist in the absence of integrity. Liberty gained through compromise is but a temporary illusion.

Michael Nystrom's picture

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of politicians are Sociopaths

Great book on this topic: The Sociopath Next Door

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

agreed

but he appears to be a very high level which makes him particularly dangerous.

The book you reference is also in audio on you tube. As fascinating as it is terrifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMYVpFwLRIk

HopeRenewed - 6/13/2011
Neither should we sacrifice Liberty for Safety nor Integrity for Concessions. True Liberty can not exist in the absence of integrity. Liberty gained through compromise is but a temporary illusion.

Looks like Newt will sit on a couch with anyone

Looks like Newt will sit on a couch with anyone

Well, one way to look at it

Well, one way to look at it is they do have at least one thing in common.

Resigned In Disgrace (poem)

Resigned In Disgrace

Gather round all you children, gather round, hear this story
About the fall of a politician at the height of his glory
He resigned in disgrace
Now he’s back in the race
And if we fall for his lies, it’s America’s Momento Mori.

Let’s hark back to the year 1994
When Republicans won like they hadn’t before
He was Speaker of the House
(and a horrible spouse!)
But his ethics were something no one could ignore.

In those days the Congress just did as they please
Graft and check kiting were a rampant disease.
They wrote bad checks
And had scurrilous sex
Without fear of sanction from the authorities.

Now our subject, the Speaker, was quite the hypocrite
He campaigned against corruption, while reveling in it.
He took the bold stance
To audit Congress’s finance
And that’s where Newt Gingrich, stepped in his own $h!+.

The Ethics Committee looked into Speaker Newt
To try to find out how he fenced all his loot.
They saw thousands of pages
Of Gingrich outrages
And when they asked why, the Speaker lied, or went mute.

There were lots of skeletons in Newt’s accounting trunk.
The more they dug into it, the more that it stunk!
But Congress sanctions their own
When they’re bad to the bone
‘Cause if they didn’t, Newt would be a cell block punk!

Newt got slapped on the wrist with a $300,000 fine
For his multiple scams that were over the line.
It was “intentional and reckless”,
Newt had proven himself feckless,
And after the next election, he was forced to resign.

It’s hard to imagine the size of the balls it would take
To run for the Presidency as ethics sanctioned snake.
He needs to be scorned,
And now you’re forewarned
That nominating Newt would be a disastrous mistake!
_____________________
Charles Ulysses Feney

"This will all end with show trials and piano wire!"

Michael Nystrom's picture

Nice

Poem.

So what does it say about the American people that he is where he is in the polls?

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

from my neo-conservative associates I get the idea . . .

that they believe Gingrich is being 'maligned'.

Someone on MSM 'out there' must be putting forward that idea; is it Beck? Limbaugh?

These people feel sorry for Gingrich and think he is a victim. There must be a powerful propaganda campaign for him--

Some victim!

:(

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Michael Nystrom's picture

"Heartbreak Awaits Republicans Who Love Gingrich"

Before Republicans put Newt Gingrich at the top of their party, they should consider what happened the last time he led it.

In the mid-1990s, Gingrich was the de facto head of the Republican Party. He helped lead it to victory in the congressional elections of 1994, which brought about real accomplishments such as welfare reform. But once he attained power, both his popularity and that of his party started to plummet. In the aftermath of his leadership, a Republican was able to take the presidency only by pointedly distancing himself from Gingrich.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/12/06/...

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Relevant quote from that article:

Although Gingrich isn't solely responsible for the Republican policy defeats of those years, his erratic behavior, lack of discipline and self-absorption had a lot to do with them. He explained that one reason the federal government shut down in 1995 was that he was angry that Clinton had snubbed him during an international flight. The Clinton White House then released pictures of the two men gabbing on the plane. Later negotiations didn't go well, with Gingrich saying, "I melt when I'm around him."

Michael Nystrom's picture

ROFL

In this book - which I was browsing through today - it talks about how similar Clinton & Gingrich are, except that Clinton is more disciplined than Gingrich.

It really is a good book.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts
Michael Nystrom's picture

Newt Gingrich Campaign $1.2 million in debt

Creditors say Gingrich has begun paying back nearly $1.2 million in bills he owed at the end of September, and his spokesman says most will be taken care of by the end of the year. Other debts — including $42,000 owed to Gingrich himself for the campaign’s use of a mailing list — have already been paid, ahead of those owed to other vendors, according to aides and disclosure records.

The debt puts Gingrich further behind in his ability to match opponents’ spending in early-voting states, where he has just started to pay for advertising and is scrambling to catch up on staffing. He has been forced to scrimp on even basic expenses for much of the campaig

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gingrich-fighting-mas...

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Aren't his pockets bursting with corporate backers'

contributions? This is strange.

If Gingrich is unable to

If Gingrich is unable to manage his own campaign fiances effectively, how can his supporters believe he will do a better job with this country's finances if he ever becomes president?

Gingrich talks a good game, but he's all flash and no substance.

I noticed he managed to pay himself first. Probably needed to pay off his wife's credit card balances. She appears to be quite the spender. Wonder how much of the taxpayers dollars she'll spend if she ever becomes first lady?

Finances have been Next's downfall before. There's no reason to believe this leopard has changed his spots.

Next's campaign disbursements have been 89% of what he has taken in and is in debt to the tune of approx. 1.2M.

By contrast Ron Paul has only disbursed 75% of his donations and has no debt.

This is as of 9/30/11.

http://www.fec.gov/disclosurep/pnational.do

Might need to head back by Tiffanys

and sell back some of that jewelry.

Another great read that says alot on Gingrich

"Buck Wild: How Republicans Broke the Bank and Became the Party of Big Government" was originally only available from CATO institute, but is now on amazon. It was one of the first books I read after my 'libertarian awakening' and helped me lose whatever respect I had for Newt. (actually I lost all respect upon meeting him once, but this book solidified it. lol ) Newt is a 2 faced statist POS.
http://www.amazon.com/Buck-Wild-Republicans-Became-Governmen...

Meeting Newt

Curious, what happened when you met him that made you lose respect?

I never liked him. I can't even tell you why. I just get a sixth sense about people and it is usually spot on.

Lew Rockwell show---another IDEA for a TV AD---immediately

...more tidbits in this interview on the Good Doctor we never knew. This is an interesting interview and can give us a few ideas on how to promote Ron these last few weeks.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/

INTEGRITY.......INTEGRITY........YOU NOW HAVE A CHOICE AMERICA!

It's been so long since we've had a choice! We need the "people" of Iowa interviewd & put in a TV ad like a reporter asking 3 short questions. This is a way to simulate the feeling of being part of the crowd:

1. Do you think there is any difference between the Republicans and the Democrats anymore? (no)

2. Are they all corrupt? (yes)

3. Would like someone that has INTEGRITY this time? (yes)

End the TV ad with a pitch as to NOW YOU HAVE A CHOICE! And, that choice is Dr. Ron Paul, a man you can trust, a man who predicted the crisis, and the only man who can fix the crisis! RON PAUL is our LAST CHANCE. Vote Ron Paul.

Just a small suggestion: In

Just a small suggestion:

In real estate you're told it's location, location, location.

In politics it should be integrity, integrity, integrity.

I think this would make a great ad.