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Video Update: Ron Paul Highlights from Final GOP Debate before Iowa - Sioux City, Thursday 12/15/11

December 15, 2011 9:00 pm
Sioux City Convention Center, Sioux City, IA, United States

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We're fooling ourselves if we

We're fooling ourselves if we think that we gained votes out of this debate. We did not, in fact we might have lost some. His two biggest problems with voters are his age, and his foreign policy. Since he can't do anything about his age, that leaves us with foreign policy. I called the campaign as soon as that segment was over and told them that I think they have got to work on his responses on this, as it's just not resonating as is. I truly believe that if he tied the Iran war propaganda to being anti Israel it would really resonate better with a certain segment on the voting block by forcing them to take a step back and have to rationalize their stance.

Just a quick example:

"If Iran was going to try to hit Israel, Israel would send three hundred nukes into Iran and wipe them out in just a few days. Israel is in no threat of being wiped out in any way, shape, or form, and to say it is is not only to insult Israel by insinuating that they are weak and/or stupid, yet even worse by being factually incorrect because it is a fact that Israel is the most powerful country in their region and it isn't even close. Look at the six day war in '67 for an example of what they're capable of. Israel needs us to get out of their way, not act like we need to play big brother and take care of them. Israel is grown up now too."

Another thing is he needs to bring in the military donations via saying, "The military get what I'm saying, and the proof is that they give more money to me by a ratio of 4:1 than all the other candidates here on stage. I view this the same way I view the economy; we're always asking the wrong people how to fix these messes. We ask those who got us into the mess to begin with how to get out of them rather than those who warned us about getting into it to begin with!"

He has got to tie it altogether is such a format and make it simple and short enough that he can keep repeating it over and over again in every debate, interview, and speech.

you are fooling yourself

If you think you could have done any better. Given the enviornment and time pressure he did an awesome job.

I didn't say *I* could, dork.

I didn't say *I* could, dork. I said *he* could.

He has stated all of your examples

over several of the debates. He just doesn't have time to say everything in one minute.

No he has not, I've gone over

No he has not, I've gone over all of them. Further, my point was that it needs to be the same, every time. Kind of like the third party question as far as consistency, but hopefully with more bite.

I must say

You are a great armchair quarterback

That is false, look at my

That is false, look at my post history.

I also have been in constant contact with the campaign on this matter, so I'm not in any chair whatsoever. Use facts.

Nice try.

Great response!

Hope they start using it. That would help voters to see the whole issue under a different and new perspective.

Québec for RP2012!

Dr. Paul

I watch most of the debate over again and let me tell you Ron Paul did a FINE job! We will continue growing in Iowa because our support has a strong foundation and is very solid. A campaign video on the War should be encouraged! I think so because people I believe are for the most part innately pro-peace/anti war. Infact I was sort of brainwashed by neoconservatice ideas when I was younger, but when presented with a logical non aggression position I have been an arvent supporter if Dr. Paul and I'm confident this position will not waiver

they are pitting Bachman

they are pitting Bachman against paul on purpose. she had her time to shine a long time ago and they think because it was forgotten it can happen again. they picked the one issue they knew they could mix with fear and demagoguery, and they picked the one candidate they thought could have a second wind in iowa (think back to the straw poll) and possibly beat Ron. As soon as they get iowa back they know they can start treating Ron like a joke again...but they also know what it means if he wins..and he will win, and all their future plans will fail; Just like the government they created. just like the economy they created. just like everything they create. eventually their plans collapse under their own weight. eventually freedom wins.

Bachman and the IAEA

Bachaman references the IAEA report
Ron Paul responds saying there is no UN report
Bachman tries to correct him; not UN, IAEA

Technically, she is right. In actuality, I think it shows that Ron has a deeper understanding of this stuff.

Ron knows that the IAEA reports to the UN. Bachman knows what her handlers tell her.

Bachmann is in desperation mode...

I didn't catch the whole debate yet, but I did see that she also went after Newt pretty hard. When you think about it, this was her last chance to make a splash before Jan. 3. If she doesn't place in the top 3 in Iowa, she's toast. She doesn't have much of a campaign beyond that anyways, but a poor showing in Iowa is big trouble for her. Same with Rick Santorum. They simply don't have the money, organization, and following to compete far beyond Iowa.

"Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth." - George Washington

In a future interview, he

In a future interview, he should ask why Bachmann and the others trust an international organization more than our own CIA.

I don't trust either!

SO mad tonight!

The only time I've screamed more at the TV is when my Saints play bad!

Sometimes Dr. Paul KILLS IT in interviews and debates, and other times I wish I could answer for him. :)

Here is what my response would be on Iran...

"Our #1 threat is NOT Iran, it is collapsing under the weight of our national debt. If we continue on the current path, we will get to the point where 100% of taxes collected is not even going to pay the interest on our debt!

If you don't feel safe in the world right now, how safe will you feel then?"

What more needs to be said?

of course knowing me, I couldn't leave it at that. I'd have to ask why the US doesn't have the same views on North Korea. Is South Korea not our ally? Who is a bigger threat of having a nuclear weapon, North Korea or Iran? Perhaps if there was more oil in or around North Korea...the Neo-Cons would talk about them more. Or, maybe since their big brother is China...we only bully the weaker countries. Shameful.

Money bomb tomorrow!

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Well, he has answered with that as well

He has pretty much said the exact same thing in a previous debate..but he only has one minute. I come on here and see many of these great ideas that Ron has usually said before. No doubt that is why he excels so much when he has time.

don't get me wrong...I love

don't get me wrong...I love the good doctor. I just wish I could stand there with him. Those warmongers drive me nuts. :)

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

To add.The U.S. uses

To add.

The U.S. uses diplomacy with North Korea, but threatens and sanctions Iran. If both regimes are ruled by madmen, what explains the different approaches. North Korea has threatened to wipe South Korea off the map. Why does Bachmann think that South Korea/Japan is lesser of an ally than Israel? Has South Korea not been an ally of the U.S. for a longer time? Has North Korea not pose a greater threat to world stability than Iran?

excellant point

and one that RP has made in the past.

Yes you are spot on

Reason Iran is handled like it is - US contractors want US military in the region. And they want the US tax payers to pay for it. US contracting is huge in the region, but not so huge and influential in North Korea.

And so our ears are filled with war propaganda about Iran...so we maintain a military presence there, and that leads to hatred of the US.

"This isn't what the govern meant"

"Win the crowd and you will win your freedom"

I bet

its a lot of pressure up there especially when they are all against you.

he did a fine job.

LA Times coverage

The LA Times coverage of Paul's performance was very good for us, I thought.


The last two U.S. presidents

The last two U.S. presidents were elected on an anti-war platform. Indeed, given the economic climate an anti-war platform is a much easier sell now. Bush and Obama postured as anti-war candidates and won. Ron Paul is the genuine anti-war candidate and he will win. That some don't agree with him should not dishearten us. We know that war is the health of the state. No nation that is perpetually at war could remain free. Restore and preserve what's left of American freedom. Restore the Republic and end the empire.

Those that want war are religious crusaders who think that Muslims would be imperialists if they ever form a strong and authentic Islamic nation. It is hatred of Muslims that animates them. Somehow they think that perpetual war has no effect on America. The fact is that America is destroyed by the fear-mongering with its curtailments of civil rights domestically due to fear of some foreign enemy real of imagined.

Ron Paul 2012. Without Apology.

The war mongers will not get

The war mongers will not get my vote! Hopefully all RP supporters will not vote for the blood thirsty bastards. If Ron does not get the nomination I will vote for a third party and let the chips fall where they may.

Frank Luntz poll

has been canceled due to overwhelming support for Dr. Paul


was it cancelled?


...U Frank ;-)

Not a WORD about it before Shamnitty signed off and the repeat of the debate began.

oh, and...

...thank goodness now FU Frank has all of our e-mail addies :-(

Who won Poll


...Ron @ 67% just now. They're going to sheet a brick!!