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Ron Paul on National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA): 'Biggest Story' Nobody's Talking About

Ron Paul: "This [act] is really, really bad," and "very dangerous."

Although it was the last question of the night during a Monday night campaign stop at the Executive Court in Manchester, it was the one Ron Paul took the most time to explain – what is the National Defense Authorization Act and what should people understand about changes made for 2012.


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Now Protesting at the Whitehouse will be a crime

Just a law to pave the way to the next president.
I did not see much chatter about this on here:


wow huge room of people

That ending shot was nice. Bet Ron won a lot of supporters over. He comes off as so honest and logical. Amazing.

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Company Who Lobbied for the NDAA

Company Who Lobbied for the NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill Given 23 Million Dollar Contract for Night Raid Equipment


so disgusting. whenever

so disgusting. whenever corporatism gets this militant, it literally IS fascism, and nothing different.

H.R. 3676 to amend NDAA - Email your Congressman

H.R. 3676 introduced 12/15 to amend NDAA, "U.S. citizens may not be detained without all the rights of due process..." http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3676/show

H.R.3676 - To amend the detainee provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 to specifically state that United States citizens may not be detained against their will without all the rights of due process afforded to citizens in a court ordained or established by or under Article III of the Constitution of the United States.


Email your U.S. Representative and ask them to sign on as a Co-sponsor to H.R. 3676.

It's already happened!!

Just ask the non-Muslim, veteran, native-born U.S. citizen Donald Vance and Nathan Ertel


Thomas R. Eddlem

What's the root cause of all this?

This video is not directly related to the topic discussed here, but I think it shares the same root cause. Something is really wrong and I get the feeling that it will get worse or simply we are about to find out how bad things have been everywhere.

Why do some people behave like NAZI? I really wonder.

I was going to watch just a few minutes of this, but ended up watching the whole thing. It's a good story since another good doctor seems to be winning.

I got the same letter!!!

I wrote to my Congressman, Diane Black-TN, before the bill passed the house. She responded, after it passed, saying that it had been amended to exclude US citizens. I was relieved, though disappointed that our government would treat non-citizens that way. Now to learn that it was just a lie is appalling! It is time to clean the house.

It doesn't apply to citizens or people on US property

Check out the document here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867 or here

Check out page 373 and through out the document for key words like citizen's and terrorists for other wording. It still applies to non-citizens not on US property though :(

Have we been falling for scare tactics?

I followed the second link and read into the bill. There is language that specifically protects citizens' rights, and even the rights of any person arrested on US soil.

The controversial section, Detainee Matters, begins on page 426. Read page 428, lines 6-14, especially lines 10-14 which read:

"Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect
existing law or authorities, relating to the detention
of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of
the United States or any other persons who are
captured or arrested in the United States. "

I bought into the hysteria concerning the Defense Authorization Act and wrote a couple of scathing letters to my Senators after the bill passed the Senate, because I believed what Rand Paul and others had been saying about it.

Now I don't know who to believe. Maybe I'll just go back to not believing anything that any politician says...

It is a masked form of...

martial law. I was not born yesterday. This is why we have to make a trillion-fold push for Dr. Paul.

This video illustrates how truly naive the average American is

This one guy in the crowd actually believes that a Congressman (or Congresswoman) cannot "lie" because they took an oath.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Hey, guy, did anyone tell you that the new Webster's Dictionary has now removed the word "gullible"? No? No one told you??? Yeah go check that out, why don't 'ya...I'll wait ;-)

Ha! Poor guy.

"Can congressmen lie?" Such an honest question.

Hey fella! Keep yourself together when you really start to investigate things. And don't get too angry about it in the process. :)

That right there, ladies and gentlemen, is what a moment of realization looks like.

Spread this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7mwP5Di5NE Rachael Maddow on Obama and civilians in FEMA detention centers. Even the far left is attacking.

Dr. Paul...

... telling it like it is!

wow. there was a pretty good

wow. there was a pretty good sized crowd in the room!

A friend of mine posted an

A friend of mine posted an excellent video on Face Book that included a piece on the NDAA. I made a couple of comments and pointed out the similarity between the movie "1984" and our Big Brother government today. Every American should be horrified. Once freedom is gone, it will be gone forever.

missing the connection

I think many people miss the point that the NDAA can be used against them as well.

It seems like the people cheering on the arrest/torture/murder bill all assume it will only be used to catch muslim bad-guys... they don't realize this bill will be used against them as well.

I thought the government was going to reign in more and more middle easterns first, but they really aren't even bothering. With the recent crackdown on state militia groups, its clear that the people who are targeted are white americans as well.

Kind of like how the idea of income tax was sold to the public.

Kind of like how the idea of income tax was sold to the public.

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It is especially educational when Dr. Paul

gives the historical context of our loss of rights. Dating concepts of individual rights back to the Magna Charta is a specific that strengthens his case substantially.

This video should be seen far and wide. It is an indictment of Congress, the Administration, the Judiciary, and the media.

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Thanks for posting

I was watching this and lost signal just as the NDAA question was ask. Whenever the debates are on line I lose signal just as Dr Paul speaks and I have to move to the TV to watch it. Funny, the only time I lose signal is when Ron Paul is about to say something important.
Thank God for the internet.
Much love your way.

This law is unbelievable. I

This law is unbelievable. I sent a letter to my congressman last week and told him that he took an oath to defend the constitution and that by signing on, he is playing right into bin ladens hands. This is exactly what he wanted; to see the US spend all this money and go crazy trying to fight terrorism; bring us to our knees.

We are more frightened by this bill than anything

Congress has ever done before. This will come out, as Ron Paul brings it out in upcoming debates.

We need Jesse Ventura hired to protect Ron....soon. Our pilot needs to sleep on the plane and ALWAYS have a Ron Pauler there to protect the airplane from any tinkering AT EVERY DESTINATION!! The plane should NEVER be left unattended!!


Dude, take the tin foil hat

Dude, take the tin foil hat off. Seriously.

It seems to me

that the policy makers are planning for things to become much more threatening and possibly violent. I think they realize that the more wars they wage the more retaliation there will be. And we all know that their agenda throughout the Middle East and the Balkans is not likely to change from what has already been initiated.

Is there

a full length video of this meeting?

Maybe Ron's camp should make ads like that.

His opponents will use manufactured fear to scare people away from Ron (he's not tough enough on Iran, he's a racist, etc.). Why not use the fully justified fear of a police state to scare people into voting for Ron?