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Israel Caught Selling 69 US Patriot Missiles to Red China

"Iron Dome Defense Missiles Seized by Finland, Labeled “Fireworks”
69 Newest Patriot Missiles Seized on MS Thor Liberty

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

Finnish authorities have confirmed the seizure of 69 Patriot missiles manufactured by Raytheon Corporation today. During a routine search of the MS Thor Liberty, a ship flagged by the Isle of Man, at the Finnish port of Kotka, authorities found 69 Patriot missiles capable of a type capable of intercepting ICBMs, the most modern available and America’s most sensitive military technology."

One would think this would be very big news. Why isn't it in the main stream media? REad the whole thing here:
http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/12/israel-caught-selling-...



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Isreal is not our friend

I'm not at all surprised to hear that Isreal was selling weapons to China. Isreal is an apartheid state that only cares about themselves. We need to wake up in this country and realize that isreal is not an ally to us. Most of the people in this country don't know that isreal got nuclear weapons by spying on us and stealing our nuclear secrets. They attacked the uss Liberty back in the 60's and we did nothing. Isreal uses us to fight their wars. They get billions of dollars in aid from us every year and they heavily influence our foreign policy. Isreal buys our politicians especially the neocons with groups like PNAC and AIPAC. They are scared to death of Dr. Paul because he knows what Isreal is really about..

The link to Israel is the version of Patriot missile

Israel is the only country publicly announced to have received the V.3 "iron dome" version of the Patriot missile, which is what the Finns found.

Unless some other country received and sold this version to China,...
If the $h!+ fits, wear it with pride!

"This will all end with show trials and piano wire!"

Your headline appears misleading...

You say ISRAEL is Caught...after reading several of the links like from CBS and other links provided there was not a mention of Israel. And so what if it is so? The USA literally owns Israel or perhaps Israel owns the USA --- I have not yet quite figured that out. Why implement Israel, or am I missing something here?

fearless brave joyful peaceful loving grateful, compassionate

Do you actually think that CBS, et all is going to tie

this to Israel? The Israeli's could shoot 20 Palestinians, bulldoze a whole villiage, and the MSM et all, will report how Hamas sent 6 'rockets'(oversized fireworks) at Israel. If these Patriot missiles were going to ROK, don't you think the people on the ship, even if they didn't know what was contained in containers, would know they were to be sent to the ROK? The real question which should be asked, if these are secret technology weapons, why the hell would they send them on a cargo freighter, and not a US Navy vessel? Wouldn't they want military protection of these, and avoid the chance of pirating and capture of the contents? People need to start using common sense, instead of just reading the propagandist diversion reporting, because 95% of reporting is pre-scripted by the controlled editors.
Read this article, as even Fox, before selling out, pointed to this right after 9/11 http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/26/sayanim-%e2%80%94-is...

Do you even watch the news?

Do you even watch the news? If 20 Palestinians are killed, it would be all over the news. Why a small ethnic war is constantly on the news is beyond me.

It's what the media DON'T TALK ABOUT that should make you suspicious:

1. They don't like to talk about Ron Paul.
2. They NEVER talk about the Fed.
3. They never talk about how every country that stops using the dollar is attacked/threatened with attack; Iraq, Iran, Libya, and North Korea.

America hardly produces anything, but the fact that you need dollars to buy oil is the only thing propping us up, at the moment. Understand economics and you understand American empire.

From what I've been able to gather from

the authors various reply is that these missiles are of a version only sold to Israel. I could be wrong but the articles I've read from the MSM don't jive for me. The captain and first officer were arrested and even though Germany took responsibility for shipping them and say it's legal I highly doubt that these kinds of munitions are shipped this way. The paper work was not even close to being correct for this shipment and I have read that DOD reps stay with these missiles when they are shipped. I could be wrong but it really smells awful fishy to me.

Thanks Alan for being objective

The US owns Israel and uses it for strategic purposes related to oil. Simple as that. Everything else is political grandstanding to exploit people's religious views.

The conspiracy people implicate Israel because they incorrectly believe Jews control international banking and start wars. Yet it's actually Americans who do this, most of which are Christian, some of which are anti-Semitic.

Example, the man who created the policy of starting wars for world peace - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Murray_Butler

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This just made it easier for

This just made it easier for RON PAUL sell his foreign policy. God forbid if a American citizen have done this......shoot on the spot with no question ask. A great job for Finland customs agent.

I read this, and I read the comments below--

because Duff is unreliable, this didn't happen? Or it happened differently than he said it did?

This is very confusing, but I will bump it.

I dislike these sorts of things, all this manufacturing of weaponry--

I find it very sad that bombs are so profitable--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

these are not bombs.. they

these are not bombs.. they are made to stop bombs. they are a defensive weapon.

thank you, Sierra--

for the explanation.

Neither spouse nor I (one of us is male) has studied any sort of weaponry beyond handguns, shotguns and rifles! And even that has been limited.

LOL!

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Unfortunetly we must have

Unfortunetly we must have weapons. I am all for a very strong military. ONLY as long as it is used to defend the borders of the US alone. I wish we could get rid of all nukes etc but that is not the real world we live in.

in principle I agree with you about . . .

the borders, but I live for the time when swords will be turned into plowshares--

for *me* it would be a dream if defending *our* nation were the only reason for weaponry/the military--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

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the coverup...

is in full swing!

first clue?

"finland probing for missile information..."

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/finnish-police-de...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/21/boat-laden-missi...

http://news.yahoo.com/finnish-police-patriot-missiles-cargo-...

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Duff is a traitor

pure and simple. I'm guessing in order to print these lies for VT, he is the owner of VT.

It's sad that people downvote the truth

What happened to facts?

Gordon's the Chairman of VeteransToday -
http://www.veteranstoday.com/staff-writers/

This is not real journalism.

Thanks Sandra.

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lets see if I've got this right...

we send our most sensitive weaponry, the newest and most advanced technology we have, with a postage stamp through germany, finland, china, and then to south korea?

and then, to fool everyone, we label it all as "fireworks" as this will throw off any interest in what they might be

is this how "we" do it?

is this what a billion dollars of "intelligence" buys us?

lies and damn lies!

Ron Paul
2012
seek the truth!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

well I thought they were our friends

uummm how many times has this happen

CNN article stating Germany claims to have

shipped the missiles and that they are a legal shipment.
Strange that they would be marked "Fireworks" and came with
no paperwork.
To me that says the article is spin for the American people.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-22/world/world_europe_finlan...

Wrong: someone Ahem ahem is pressuring them to do so...

I think Veterans Today wesite talks about this.

The problem is that Germany never received or is authorized to receive (or sold) to germany, ...just one country.
But of course, none is going to go check that.
People will just think that America is selling patriot missiles, germany is betraying our high technology to china.
Remember, China reverse engineered and produced the iPhone in three months after it came out(hardware that is, software is an whole another thing so cant say without having seen one first hand)

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lies...

and damn lies!

how did germany get them?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I agree with most of my

I agree with most of my friends here, this story is very misleading if not an outright lie, this story should be voted down and left to die.

Duff has a long history of subject substitution

in stories. He will replace a country with another to confuse and scare Americans involved in anti war movements.

So far I have found no source

So far I have found no source of the claim that "Israil sold 69 US Patriot missiles to China", anyone has found the sources for this claim except the original article ? http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/23/breaking-patriot-mis...

I do not know if this is factual but

the article states....

"These units, the most advanced Patriot system had only been supplied to nation, Israel. The 69 Patriot ICBM interceptors are believed to be a highly secret consignment demanded by Israel as protection from any retaliatory strike by Iran were war to break out in the region."

No other article than Duff's

is stating they are ICBM interceptors but rather Patriot missiles.

CBS has a version of the story.

CBS has a version of the story.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57346936/finland-still-p...

Fed-Up

Let's dug deeper: here is

Let's dug deeper: here is from Finnish most respected news source: http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Harrowing+voyage+through+st...

"According to reports in the German media on Thursday, German customs had confirmed that the Patriot missiles were from the German military.
The weapons were en route to South Korea. However, Finland had not received official confirmation on the matter on Thursday.
The Finnish Defence Forces moved the containers with the missiles to an undisclosed safe location away from Kotka Harbour on Thursday."