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Rick Steves on Iran: Americans NEED to see this video

There's a quote attributed to Mark Twain that goes like this: "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness."

In this lecture Rick Steves proves that he is more than a travel writer. He has had the courage to vindicate Twain's statement. He has very much proven himself to be a true patriot and gentleman.

http://youtu.be/rtELk8S3dhU




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Alrighty, it's time for a

Alrighty, it's time for a little IR 101 for the new student. I'm not at all sure you even know what you are talking about.

Let me say that it is correct to say that the US and UK had no right to do anything in Iran. Our law is only enforceable within our borders. It is a novel concept called "national sovereignty." For a business its called the risks of doing business.

Their property laws are their laws. Ownership of their land and resources are to be decided by their laws. They changed their laws. That is their choice.

Who owned the land? Who decided it? Who sold it? Did they have title? How did they get it? Who owns the oil? Who decided who owned the oil? When? Where? Were the property rights of the aboriginal (original owners) peoples of the oil fields respected/compensated? Who had the right to sell the land to BP? How did they acquire it? Did they "steal" it to sell it to BP? Did the aboriginal people own it?

In the case of Iran, all "property rights" flowed from the Shah, a king, so therefore some would rightly argue he had no right to sell the land in the first place. Hence BP had no right to ownership (fencing of stolen goods).

It is theirs to decide. ...that is unless one advocates colonizing thereby bringing it under the laws of the "mother country"

So you are tactically incorrect, and above all morally wrong.

"I'm confused by your private profits; socialized costs comment."

Let me soothe your confusion. BP takes a risk. They and only they assume all profits, losses, insurance and security to maintain those profits. Instead they want to reap profits while using tax dollars for their de-facto insurance of last resort (socialize costs, here is where you will take a bite of your TARP sandwich, mi amigo). They have no right to have any branch of the government engage in asset protection (which they may, or may not even own legitimately) for them in violation of another country's laws and national sovereignty. BP was British anyway. Let them wage their own wars.

US assets are supposed to be used to protect the country from attack, not go around the world anywhere an American or an American business is standing and claim a little piece of America.

Same goes for any country. So, just in case you forgot already I'll remind you that his concept is called "national sovereignty."

Your "concept" of "utopian" rights do not exist beyond your political borders of enforcement. For example: US law does NOT follow a citizen around the earth. You are way to narrow in your thinking. That is Ok. Many are.

If your silly butt gets taken hostage in some far flung area, well, C'est la vie! Not sending in the Marines, sorry dude. LOL! Same thing for businesses.

So in the end, indeed the US and UK had NO (zero) reason to intervene (other than diplomatically trying to persuade), and Iran has absolutely NO share in "your blame."

The US and UK are 100% directly responsible for 1953 and the ensuing aftermath.

Please get some more education, please.

Ciao

cause of action

Take the cause of action (theft, breach of contract) to the courts. Instead of using the courts, they went outside the legal system and took down the government.

There is always a risk at investing outside of your home locale. If you don't want to take that risk, don't invest.

What courts?

The problem was brought to the United Nations.

I agree, one must weigh the risks in foreign investment.

This is a dilema though. Countries that fail to recognize property rights, will gain less investment and the people will ultimately suffer.

Social engineers plea for investment in poor countries to raise the standard of living, but bemoan profits that would off-set the risks.

My point here was for us to not jump to some simplified judgement but to recognize that there was conflict on both sides of this issue.

Don't sell me you're rotten eggs!

I'm with Ron Paul on non-intervention, but don't post some liberal tour guide telling us it's all okay, they're just ordinary fun loving people. Islam is a societal model of oppression and submission and we don't need that in America.I've got no problem with Iranians coming here and contributing as long as they are prepared to accept our way of doing things,not trying to implement Islam in America. America is a Christian nation but, if we continue to compromise and preach unity in diversity and all the politically correct nonsense being fed to all the kids on college campuses we are in trouble. Muslims need Jesus,not jihad.

Muslims need Jesus, not Jihad

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW there is such a lack of understanding in those 5 words.

1 - In almost every muslim country, "jihadists" are the hated by the public, and are very often used as scapegoats for all of their countries problems. Remember Mubarak, Qaddafi, and Assad screaming out "its al-q*da, its al-q*da"... thats because 99% of the people in those countries ALSO HATE al-q*da. So the governments there use them as a scare tactic just like the govt here does (the * is to avoid the NDAA eyes). So my point is, NO, they are not flocking towards Holy War (Jihad). That is just absurdly misinformed.

2 - Muslims already believe in Jesus. They believe Jesus is a profit from God and they believe in his teachings. Jesus is mentioned more in the Koran than in the Bible. Muslims also celebrate Christmas.

I'm not trying to insult you or be mad at you, but i think if you had a basic understanding of these people and the countries they live in, you wouldn't have made that statement.

Sure, there are exteremist Muslims that hate everyone that doesn't agree with them, but you have these types of extremeists in every society. There are Christian and Jewish and Hindu (etc etc) extremists who also share these absolute "agree with me or die" views.

There is a big HUGE

There is a big HUGE difference between America being a nation mostly comprised of Christians and American being a Christian nation. It is the former and decidedly NOT the latter.

Muslims may need Jesus but

Muslims may need Jesus but they need him by choice, and not by force. If we force Jesus we will end up with a similarly totalitarian Government as Iran with little or no true spiritual significance, except negatively.

What's striking to me is the similarities between what he sees as the motives for the people's acceptance of the totalitarian state and and the same motives being sold here in the name of "Jesus" and family values.

You too?

Why do they need him at all? If and when the Christians are done with Allah who is next? Buddha? To even think that another religion needs Jesus is no different than the other religion insisting that Christians need Allah. I am having trouble with the blind hypocrisy of it all.Could someone please explain to me why The Christian religion is better than any other?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I think you missed *his* point . . .

I am not an evangelizer, but I do know people who are 'searching' spiritually--

there are people of other religions who do want to know about Jesus, who want to know . . .--

denying others the right to know isn't cool either.

I can see the value of your words, but the person above (fiodex) made it clear that force is the problem, not choice.

People can and often do choose to make major religious changes.

I've known Bhuddists who have become Christians and Christians who have become Bhuddists and Muslims who have become Christians and I've certainly heard of Christians becoming Muslims--

I've known Jews who have become Christians and Christians who have become Jews. I even know a Hindu who used to be a Christian--

though admittedly I have never met a Hindu who became a Christian--LOL!

People have that right to knowledge and why not from someone who knows--?

I don't think *we* have to imply that one religion is better than another.

I am a Christian. I choose to be a Christian, though I was raised a Christian. I have gone deeper into Christianity than I was raised, and I did study other religions, quite extensively; I still do to some extent.

As a Christian I cherish my beliefs, but I know some Christians who . . . put Christianity to shame, and I know some people of other religions who truly put Christians to shame--

so . . . ultimately, this is very much about personal choice, and that is what liberty is all about--

I do not push my Christianity on others, but I'm not ashamed of it either, and if people I ask, I tell--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Hindus --> Christianity

"though admittedly I have never met a Hindu who became a Christian--LOL!"

Just FYI... Inida has a very large Christian population (Millions of Christians), and Christianity is the largest religion is several Indian states. Most of these people were Hindu's before they converted to Christianity.

Also, i like your points and agree with you fully.

actually, yes, I know about the Christians in India--

I knew one quite well, but he had been born into a Christian family--

He did say, however, that it isn't easy for Christians there; in some places they tend to be treated as a 'minority' in terms of employment and education.

I did know that there are parts of India where Christians, Hindus and Muslims co-exist very peacefully, as neighbors and friends. It does seem to me that most Americans aren't aware of that--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Yes, indeed. In many parts of

Yes, indeed. In many parts of ind. there are many struggles against intolerance and injustices. Its unique in each area

Thank you, because this is one of the best...

Thank you, because this is one of the best view points I have heard in a long time my friend.Very well said and the world would indeed be a much better place if all with a faith understood and used such words as a guideline in culture.

Far too many times as we know, this is far and few in between in reality. This is one of the reasons we have been at each others throats for far to many centuries.I agree that if we all adhered to this type of respect for another's faith, or lack of, the world would be a much better place.

The problem is when it is not as you present here, there are very few in the world that would ever admit a mistake. I really have an issue with the prevalent attitude that a persons religion has never made mistakes towards another Culture, Civilization, or Idea.

I know by the standards of most religions that to admit that there are skeletons in the closet could be considered blasphemy. I would respect a certain religion more if the followers had the fortitude to understand past mistakes and in doing so make the very faith they follow a more honest faith without hypocrisy.

I have not seen much of this through the facts of history and they continue to make the same mistakes rather than admit they were ever wrong.They lie to hide fallacy and imperfections of their own faith. Just wrong in my eyes.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

AMEN Brother!

If nothing else, especially if one is certain internally WHY they believe what they believe, no amount of 'liberal propaganda' should persuade you counter to what one believes.

If nothing else, since I'm sure not many from here are able to visit Iran, I see nothing wrong with at least taking a step back and watching just one person's view as he visited a much maligned country, even if it required him to walk around with minders, and trying to give it a whirl.

Kinda like watching House Hunters International on HGTV, just with far more consequences. lol Hell, how else does one even remotely get a cursory look into lives of others, if but a brief glimpse into other cultures, even if skewed, unless one has seen it in first person, other than through modern medium of film?

I'd say to those who may be concerned, just watch with an open mind, with no fear, and remind yourself this is just one person, Rick Steeve's portrayal of Iran, nothing more.

Take from it what you will, & even if one wants to critique it, how else would you do it, unless you've seen the 'opposition' view?

Now, ATPat. you are one enlightened brother. Spot on commentary.

I'm personally of the mind that before collectivist took over indoctrinating our lives, the essential part of human life was discovering the wonders of God's universe, finding meaning in this world, whether one believes in Big Bang, or other modes of creation, or monotheistic God or some other unknown force created the Cosmos and all that is in it, in a common parallel in our fight against collectivists imposing their specific views via monopoly force of gvt, the only thing that matters is that individually we believe in fundamental principles of liberty.

As soon as we STOP trying to conform others to agree with our individual views, we'd all get along much better.

After all, isn't that the 'novel' concept that Dr. Paul is trying to re-introduce a common sense so old, it's new in the 21st century?

live & let live brother. spot on.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Because Jesus saved me, it's

Because Jesus saved me, it's something that really happened to me, a very good thing, I want to share it, and I believe he can and wants to bring joy and purpose to others too.

I don't mind a Muslim insisting that I need Allah, or a Buddhist trying to convince me of their thing, or a democrat trying to convince me that I need the state. For me the truth is not something that I need to cling to or defend, it will stand on it's own, and Jesus has proven himself to me in this way. My job in it is to set an example.

It's not about wanting other people to conform to my ideology, that's not my job, nor is the promotion of my personal ideology my priority, like I said, if what I believe is true then it doesn't need my defense, instead I just need to learn to live in that truth.

For me, telling other people about Jesus is more about sharing the joy of my relationship with God. What's wrong with that?

Good you think this way but...

Good you think this way but it is very rare to find a Christian that does not feel they have to impose their beliefs onto others. So you have never suggested to someone of a different faith that Jesus is a better way to go? I understand that you might share that Jesus was what you have found but does the topic of Jesus come to an end the very second you find they are of a different faith? I ask this because this is the very point where respect for the other parties religion comes into play.This is when your sharing of beliefs should come to a immediate stop. I have never seen it happen yet, It continues and is pushed until there is an argument and one party walks away.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I think that all people are

I think that all people are valuable. I also know that condemning people isn't a very effective way of loving them. I also know that one of the best ways to get people to run from the truth is to cling to it and defend it as if it needs your defense or it will spontaneously collapse. It really gives people the impression that the thing you are promoting or defending isn't really that defensible, and it's probably indicative of the fact that your beliefs have not been born out of personal contemplation, experience, or struggle, but are instead an inherited dogma that you are afraid to challenge. Part of having faith is trusting that what you believe is true, even in the face of attacks on it's credibility.

If Jesus is real and has real power then if I obey him, am honest about my relationship with him, and love people, he'll show up in his own way and do the rest.

I believe Jesus is a real person who is alive today through his Holy Spirit, so my job isn't to force people to obey him, it's just to introduce people to him like I would a good friend. It would be rude of me not to.

You are speaking of your truth

This may be truth to you but is it truth to others? Are you open minded enough to consider that the others truth could possibly the real option of truth? No,I think not because this is why we have issues between religions.One is always right and the others are always wrong.It has been the excuse for war since time began.All religions are guilty of this including my own,Yet my beliefs are one of the few honest cultural beliefs that do not try to hide skeletons in our closet with hypocrisy.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I believe that if I resort to

I believe that if I resort to the initiation of violence in defense of my perspective of the truth then I have conceded the argument. Even if I win the violence, I lost as soon as it started.

I don't see a problem with people with strong opinions actually believing what they believe, and even believing that other people are wrong, but I do have a very big problem with people who resort to violence in order to end the argument, it shows that they are afraid that their version of the truth will not be able to withstand the argument.

I welcome the argument, or maybe we should call it a conversation, as it will either show me that what I believe is true, or that I am wrong and I need to change. Either thing is ok with me as I am trying to seek the truth, not protect an opinion.

I love hearing people share truths that they have come to know by personal experience or by in-depth study. I don't care for second hand beliefs that people feel the obligation to defend in support of some usually irrational ideal with which they only have an emotional connection.

Thank you.

I appreciate this reply very much because so many times I run into a mental block when discussing religion.It sometimes becomes as hard as explaining to a very racist person that not everyone of a race is the same.

It somehow all starts to run together at some point as an outside observer.See, there are very few on here with my beliefs. I am Chickasaw and follow the beliefs of my heritage and background. We are a straight out honest warrior class culture and never try to hide our past,present or future.

Our values have been the same for longer than the written language that was "Bestowed" upon us yet we never once tried to impose our beliefs on another idea. As with many of the other tribal cultures all we wanted was to be left alone. History had decided that we became Christian or die as heathens.They learned nothing from this.

Now it appears that culture is starting to understand and respect our culture when it comes to survival towards the future.This is truly something to observe and understand because for 12 thousand years we survived with very controlled successful results.

Yep,We are like cockroaches and will out survive all of the other cultures because of their laziness and greed. We had a true successful Marxist Socialistic culture that is to date the envy of the world.We shared with all out of need to survive and greed never came into play. It looks like we will soon have to do this again.

Please find this in any other past culture.The point I am making is that you will never hear a Chock or a Chick hide their past,present or future.No need,We are what we are.We are what we were. Then we became Christian and will not survive unless we become again Chicks or Chocks because the Christians taught us to lie for personal gain.

As I pass my flat hand open across in front of me I say "Bad Gift,Bad Trade", "no thank you".

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

wow, its true!

Sarah Palin does lurk here...

And a very revealing quote included

"Muslims need Jesus",This is the truth of the agenda right there! It says it all in just three words! Sure it's not Bachman?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I like Rick Steves - I've been to his store in the Seattle area.

Very cool travel store in Edmonds WA.

I would think he would be a Ron Paul fan but I don't know.

Anyway this is a great way to discredit the Banking-Military-Industrial complex who TELLS US WHO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HATE so they can profit on their real-life war games.

But times are changing and many of us are on to their antics.

Bravo Rick!

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

great video...

balanced perspective... a lot of Ron Paul lines contained in the vid...

Bump

I have seen videos from Iran before. One was taken from a car in rush hour traffic. It looked like a city during rush hour any city, anywhere. Another was a guy from Iran who posted up their family's ski vacation in the mountains in Iran.
They are no threat to us.

Thanks for the video link. I'm watching now, quite good.

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