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ALERT! Has the campaign been infiltrated by Romney agents?

Amazing and VERY disturbing!

Now you will understand why Romney is being treated with kid gloves by the Ron Paul campaign..

Have a look and make this viral....

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This is pretty stupid. This

This is pretty stupid. This is a guy who acts as a consultant, is good with video editing software, and whose wife also happens to be involved in politics as a consultant for grassroots organizing. Oh, and he's not a libertarian. That's the extent of the so-called "evidence" against him. I have a feeling that I trust the campaign over a website claiming to sell access to the "Forbidden History of the New World Order" for $5.

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This subject deserves attention!

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Has the campaign been infiltrated by Romney agents?

Maybe. If so, probably several of the posters on this thread are among them.

Don't tell me that we don't have to worry about Romney because no one likes him; no one liked McCain either, and yet he managed to become the nominee.

We are in a dangerous place right now with all the neocon talking heads saying that Ron Paul is racist and anti-semitic; this will have a big impact on undecided voters that needs to be addressed. At the same time,some of these neocons are saying that Ron Paul will definitely win Iowa in order to induce complacency among Ron Paul supporters.

Romney, who has avoided criticizing Dr. Paul, will most likely come in at the 11th hour with a major media blitz against the good doctor, leaving no time to set the record straight.

We need to stay vigilant and work as though Dr. Paul is down by 20 points. To do otherwise is foolish.

I totally agree

with not attacking Romney at this stage. There many reasons for that and RP knows them very well. The reasons are:

1) You don't turn all the establishment against you.
2) Romney has the money to attack back an bury you at this early stage where most of the voters don't know RP.
3) Strong Romney means that all other candidates with no money will not survive for a long time.
4) Finally, if it is between Romney and RP, RP has a big chance since Romney is not very popular.

I think it is a good strategy to work on getting others out of the field before starting to attack Romney. The biggest challenge to RP is to win SC. If he wins it, then it is between him and Romney.

Time will tell

As a Floridian, I am blessing the ad guy. I know how strong Gingrich's surge was here, and now it has been arrested and possibly reversed. He is clearly very talented. And yes, I read the same article that you did.

Let's be patient and see how this develops. Give him the benefit of the doubt. I, for one, hope that he will use his considerable talent to fight back against the personal attacks that Dr. Paul has experienced this last week. Have faith; the message of liberty and Dr. Paul's integrity are powerful.

It's easier to...

fry the little fish first. Only Paul and Romney have been seriously campaigning since the last election. Additionally, Romney's support is stagnant. His ceiling looks to be a real ceiling. Whereas Paul's has continued to grow and rise. I suspect that Paul knows exactly what to do. I also think that there may be some hesitation to hit the perceived nominee because he can allow Obama to do his bidding as Obama has already shown he will do.

For me, I have trouble imagining a Romney presidency. Don't imagine it would be too different from an Obama presidency. He has even pandered more towards the "middle" recently in saying that he would only take away certain aspects of Obamacare. To me that is trying to win the voters who are so afraid of losing their precious med programs. He is done and dusted once that gets put in an ad.

How is he involved?

Is he a media strategist? A video editor? IS he responsible for the content or is he involved in the production side of things? This may not be a big deal at all. The campaign has been making a series of good decisions lately and thats being reflected ion the polls, so I would have to say that SOMEBODY knows what they are doing this time around. Maybe the attacks on Romney haven't been very fierce is because they realize that Romney voters are not Paul voters, but Gingrich voters could be. Give them the benefit of the doubt.

If I burn to many bridges I'll never get off this awful island.

I was expecting positives going through the roof!

After clicking this post up, opening the link and deleting the post (like i do with all that have links to articles), i found myself in need to see some of the comments here and the ratings.

I was expecting to see the positive ratings to go through the roof. Instead, i see so many minuses and i must ask why?

We are all asking why the Paul campaign doesn't attack Romney, and when you look at it through the context of this article, it starts to make a lot of sense.

For crying out loud, the man openly admits he doesn't support Ron Paul, is part of the mainstream establishment, AND ABOVE ALL ELSE, his wife works for Romney...even if he did make attack ads on Romney we should be skeptical based on this information alone. That no attempt to attack Romney has been made should make us super skeptical!

So whether it's true or not in the end, we must make this a relevant discussion.

Your logic is flawed

so your argument fails to be a sound one.

You don't know that it is propositionally true that just because he doesn't support RP that automatically means he supports someone else. Further still, it does not logically follow that even if he did he would sabotage RP and do less than his best work for his paycheck.

I don't openly support many things, but this doesn't mean I am opposed to them or seek to undermine or destroy them.

You seem to believe this is an "either/or" proposition.

Also, you commit the genetic fallacy and a non-sequitur when you state that just because the man's wife works for Romney, this is the root of these alleged misdeeds.

Further still, you claim guilt by association because he is married to her and thus he must be guilty of something too.

I don't see why I should grant that your argument is true or even reasonable.

"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin

take on one at a time.

Ron Paul did take on Romney with the "Pretty Boy" Ad with Perry. If you have followed Ron Paul you'll see he goes after policies and not the individual. Romney is an easy target, in my opinion, a lot of 'Conservatives' won't vote for him.

"Fairy tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten."
— G.K. Chesterton

That was not Ron Paul

That was not the Paul campaign, that was the Revolution PAC which has nothing to do with the official Paul campaign. At most, all the campaign has done is show a quick picture of Romney and call him a smooth talker - that's hardly damaging. And in fact, calling Romney a 'smooth talking politician' is actually going after the individual and not the policies.

But even so, i never once claimed that he goes after the individual. I think we are all in unanimous agreement that if they were to attack Romney they would attack his policies just like they did on Gingrich.

Why Minuses?

If she is really his wife, then this is a problem. Ron Paul just have to change his ad man. His ads are not that good anyways. Gingrich ad was good, not because of design, but because of the message.

This free ad that a supporter made is much better than the ads paid by the campaign, clear and to the point, sufficient to push Romney down where he belongs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BI9yj...

So, why wasting money on Jon Downs who does not even understand Ron Paul.

Best ad against Romney

This is absolutely the best ad summing up Romney's entire political life. Flipping and flopping. I would LOVE to see the official campaign spin off on this.

Wow. What a great Mitt Romney attack ad!

Wow. What a great Mitt Romney attack ad!

Never seen that before.

Look, Mitt Romney has been jockeying to become president ever since his own dad failed in his bid to become president.

He's only been in the private sector because he failed to beat Ted Kennedy in 1994.

He's a silver spoon kid who's had every advantage in the world and has one goal and that is to become president of the United States of American for his own glory -not for principles.

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Something to watch and keep in mind

Not a bad argument. No matter what Ron Paul does at this early stage it's bound to help Romney with Gingrich.

On the other hand all the confused neo-con voters get distracted with counterfiets, Bachmann, Santorum & Perry.

This is where RevPac comes in handy. They hit Romney early.

And if it looks like Downs is avoiding Romney going forward we have control with RevPac.

See Something, Say Something

YOU! Step Away from the computer and drop the thumbdrive!

Romney has no......

... support among mainstream Republicans. To the run-of-the-mill Republican, he makes McCain look like Jesse Helms. No need to waste dollars on Romney. Not yet anyway.

Plano TX

how much support did McCain have 4 years ago today?

Hmmmmmmm... ;-)

Fact is, you just never know what people will vote for, especially when they don't love any of the available options. We know what RP supporters will vote for, since we do love Doc, but beyond that... it's unpredictable.

What we do know about candidate Romney is that he (a) is the second choice of a lot of people currently supporting other candidates, (b) is getting the establishment money and endorsements he needs to be a "serious" contender, and (c) has deep campaign pockets (thanks to his bankster buds). No, no "real people" are passionate about him, but he has the air of inevitability in the eyes of the GOP establishment types, and that alone makes him extremely dangerous.

The road to the 2012 GOP nomination still runs through Romney. (Cue the truck from "that's how Ron Paul rolls" fame.)

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New Hampshire

New Hampshire is coming soon. That's Romney's stronghold and what he needs to knock out of the park. The anti-romney ads need to hit in NH.

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what do you mean "not now"?

why not now? we have iowa coming up very soon and our lead is small. our strongest opponent at the moment is romney. his poll numbers are more than high enough for us to take him seriously. i don't understand how you could think otherwise.

nr

Keep a vigil eye. It's

Keep a vigil eye.

It's important that we communicate to the official campaign that we EXPECT intense flip-flop ads against Romney soon... and they better be potent.

C4RP

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I'm guessing the Paul Campaign is keeping their powder dry

for Romney, it's not time yet.

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I believe someone

has really gotten their feelings hurt or ego bruised here. There sure are alot of down votes on some reasonable posts by the users here. Lol!

Grow up.

"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin

i agree!

there is no reason to vote down this post. it's very informative and needs attention.

nr

I wasn't referring to the OP

itself as much as to the down-voting of nearly every single comment on this topic an hour or so ago. I just thought it was humorous to see....sort of.

"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin

down votes without explanation is pointless.

i am far from convinced that there is any infiltration, but the post just asks the question. we shouldn't be discouraging each other from questioning things. also, i think it's pointless to vote down comments with no reply and explanation. doing this to the comments of new members is NOT a good way to encourage their participation or their enthusiasm to help in the campaign. i think it's counter-productive. if you disagree with someone, isn't it best to say why??
of course, if it's obvious that someone is just here to intentionally cause trouble, that's different.

nr

I can agree with that.

I guess some people just want to feel important in their own minds for whatever reason, IDK.

I personally ignore it, but I admit I find the practice hilarious for a few reasons.

But hey, those who want to practice it are free to do so for whatever their reason(s) or motive(s), even if they're silly and/or juvenile one's.

The way I look at it is this: It's a reflection of that person, not me.

"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin

White shirts and ties riding bicycles to work.

Dead give-a-away.

But many good Mormons support Ron I know a few.