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There Is still time To Retract NDAA! We Need 8,000 Sigs! We Have Until the 30TH!

Submitted by Forever Liberty on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 19:03
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PLEASE VOTE UP & SHARE!!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!

Instructions:

http://youtu.be/I3Qa23wo5uM

Sigs: http://wh.gov/jeY


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"We implore the Obama Administration"

Submitted by Station One on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 04:32.

"implore"?

If a person expects Barry Soetoro to do the Unites States of America any good, you're very sadly mistaken. If there is no force involved he will absolutely not listen.

Sorry to say. "Out of the goodness of his heart"? You're kiddin' right?

Signed. I'll share it with

Submitted by Oakheart on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 04:02.

Signed. I'll share it with friends.

Article by Dr. Paul...

Submitted by Mary1 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 01:54.

Just FYI, an article appeared today by Dr. Paul on NDAA:

http://original.antiwar.com/paul/2011/12/27/the-ndaa-repeals...

That is his Texas Straight

Submitted by Debbie on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 03:34.

That is his Texas Straight Talk article.

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It says 7500 sigs needed, but they already have 17,658 sigs?

Submitted by punni72 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 02:31.

I'm confused. They needed 7565 sigs by Dec 30, 2011. But they already have 17,658 sigs. Are we good to go then? Or do we need more signatures?

It looks like a countdown

Submitted by mrdivot on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 03:19.

to 25,000. Add the two numbers together.

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Signed!

Submitted by sharkhearted on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 01:51.

Thank you for forwarding this. Done.

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Not working?

Submitted by Mary1 on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 23:56.

When I click to create an account to sign this petition, a blue box comes up that says fill in the form below, but there is no form below, only an empty blue box. Help?

New browser -ie doesn't work

Submitted by zforce on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:52.

It seems you have to use a different browser like firefox or safari..

Thanks! That worked!

Submitted by Mary1 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 01:53.

I appreciate your help! I changed browsers, and that solved the problem.

done

Submitted by Idea Factory on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 23:43.

done

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Signed and Shared.

Submitted by ModernPatriotsUnited on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 23:27.

Go Go Go

I actually just got my

Submitted by ammiralowling on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 23:15.

I actually just got my brother to sign this and he is not in the Paul or liberty camp. He is convinced RP is too radical. Then I clarified his position on drugs for example and there was pause and then there was in my mind hope. The message is muddled. This bill is as well. Most Americans are not paying attention to the erosion of the rights. We must educate and clarify.

Keep working on him

Submitted by Disturbed on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:19.

One bit at a time. Slowly. It will seem like forever, but he will come around. You will get him to see.

Oh I have my doubts. It's not

Submitted by ammiralowling on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 03:06.

Oh I have my doubts. It's not that easy. There is the fauxnews influenced "Iran" thing. I tried pointing out more than 200 israeli companies still deal with them but that doesn't seem to matter. Some of these companies are military. He doesn't sympathize with Palestinians like I do because our family the Irish were treated the exact same way. It's not like I'm looking to go hang around with Palestinians or Iranians or even Ron Paul. There is room in Libertarianism for all.

He thinks like a lot of people Ron Paul is weak on defense. I only wish during the debates RP emphasized his military service and pointed out how many chicken hawks were on stage.

Trouble is again information. American "idle" is not going to bring up the viewpoints and you're not going to hear a person's positions when he only gets 90 seconds to explain them.

One of Ron Paul's greatest weaknesses I think is he doesn't think he owns the mic. I think back to that Reagan moment with Bush Sr. If he was just a little more forceful in the debates he might have cut through to people like my brother.

Not that anyone but hardcore fanatics heard him but he has said if the American people thought military action was needed against Iran he would authorize force after a declaration of war. That's a powerful response and argument if not checkmate to his critics.

American people should have a say not corporate cronies. American people should not be detained without reason. Squash this bill!

Who’s Threatening Whom?

Submitted by Jay Front on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 05:24.

Perhaps a visual may help to steer your brother.

http://www.bluerepublican.org/2011/12/whos-threatening-whom/

The NDAA doesn't quash our 4th Amendment Rights

Submitted by LiveFreeOrDie on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:55.

You know, it's hard to take someone serious when they don't have their facts strait. The fourth amendment was assaulted by the Patriot Act. The NDAA is our government's attempt to take away our fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth amendments!

Hmmmm

Submitted by HopeRenewed on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:21.

The 4th amendment to the constitution states "the rights of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, effects against unreasonable searches and seizures SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED and NO warrants shall issue except upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation". Section 1031B2 of the NDAA bill does not have the requirement for a civilian judge to issue such a warrant thus directly violating the 4th amendment of the Constitution.

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Hey, Just Listened to Ron Paul Texas Sraight Talk for 12-26-11

Submitted by LiveFreeOrDie on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:45.

The Patriot Act's main focus is unlawful searches and seizures. The NDAA provides for unlawful arrests and indefinite detainment without due process of law.

Start watching

Submitted by HopeRenewed on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 01:15.

at 2:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z12l_Euc28U

In fairness there is some overlap with the Patriot Act but the NDAA definitely suspends the 4th amendment as well.

By the way there have been multiple detainment's under the Patriot Act already including US citizens. The NDAA codifies the legality. If you have time watch the following, it's as infuriating as it is tragic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPIQJy_GSw0

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HopeRenewed - 6/13/2011
Neither should we sacrifice Liberty for Safety nor Integrity for Concessions. True Liberty can not exist in the absence of integrity. Liberty gained through compromise is but a temporary illusion.

Although I'm in support of this petition,

Submitted by rondog84 on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:51.

I wouldn't count on the Administration to do anything. There was a petition to abolish the TSA....32,000 sigs, check it out under responses. When there are enough signatures, we'll get one of those responses similar to what most elected congressional members will tell you when you opposed this bill...some long out answer on why we appreciate your input, but we can't listen to you.

yeah, putting out a petition

Submitted by Idea Factory on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 23:44.

yeah, putting out a petition like this is probably good for a laugh on their part.

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I hope this is correct

Submitted by tog2476 on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:37.

because I just sent it viral after seeing Habit4ming signed it, they have been here a long time and I trust them. Here goes nothing, I hope the domain they state on the site does not spam people out.

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The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Okay,

Submitted by Habit4ming on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:25.

I signed it and will share this on Twitter...

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If Obama has already signed NDAA

Submitted by ModernPatriotsUnited on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:05.

Why is the petition still up at whitehouse.gov? I will look to verify.

it has already been signed.

Submitted by jdcash on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 21:52.

sorry to inform you... but Obama signed it on Friday.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0111/obama_signs_nda...

FALSE info

Submitted by CaptainFreedom1776 on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:02.

Look further into what you cited and it says that Obama has signed H.R. 6523, the Ike Skelton National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2011, which was last year's NDAA. This year's NDAA has not been signed yet.

That is from last year

Submitted by expwnent on Tue, 12/27/2011 - 21:57.

That article is from last January and was for the 2011 bill. The current bill for 2012 has not been signed yet.