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Why Is Paul Needed? S. 1698: Expatriation Act & H.R. 3166: Expatriation Act

Makes you wonder how much more s*** will be piled on or added to the NDAA...

They have no fear now...NONE

S: 1698


HR 3166


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I Do Here By Secede

Who cares about the insane laws and acts of this criminal government and these scum polititians? These laws are in clear violation to the Constitution and are therefore null and void and should be disregarded. Moreover, there is no place for them in the rising of individual consciousness and I therefore secede from this false authority.


I hereby withdraw my consent to be ruled by the tyrannical and despotic institution here after referred to as “United States Government.” Reason tells me that this entity has no inherent legitimacy toward ruling my life (as this arrangement was not created by me, nor obtained my consent), nevertheless, I find it necessary to declare such a separation at this time due to the signing of the NDAA bill. I hereby withdraw any present and future consent toward being ruled by this authoritarian organization. Any laws, edicts, regulations, executive orders, or demands issued by this organization will be ignored as so much verbal static emanating from tyrants lacking any legitimate authority.

By this act of secession, I declare I will no longer consent to being described as a willing citizen or subject of the “United States Government,” nor its permanently ensconced ruling class. I hereby refuse to be labeled as a participant of, nor a collaborator with, the criminal actions executed by those individuals declaring to be representatives, employees, or agents of the “United States Government.” Such actions include waging war and stealing the property and wealth of other individuals. Any such actions declared to “be in my name” or “for my benefit or protection” will be considered blatantly fraudulent. I will hereby consider myself only as a sovereign individual residing on the North American continent, responsible for actions I commit as an individual and subject only to common law.


How you spin treason 101

Congressman Dent comments on the Enemy Expatriation Act (H.R. 3166), bipartisan legislation he introduced on Wednesday, October 12, 2011, with Rep. Jason Altmire (D-PA). A companion bill was introduced in the U.S. Senate by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA).


Spin all you want, we know this has nothing to do with you protecting us from terrorists and everything to do with your fear of revolts from citizens.

HopeRenewed - 6/13/2011
Neither should we sacrifice Liberty for Safety nor Integrity for Concessions. True Liberty can not exist in the absence of integrity. Liberty gained through compromise is but a temporary illusion.

Can't you see it ?

They're beginning to self destruct from their own fear.


"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

I've been talking about HR

I've been talking about HR 3166 for a few days now, since I found out about it here on dailypaul by TomJefferson. This is complete lunacy and every liberty loving patriot better learn about and continue to monitor this proceedings of these bills. The only thing they need to get rid of the Bill Of Rights completely is for Fast and Furious to have worked. They have gotten rid of, or soon will, all of the other Amendment in the Bill Of Rights except for the 2nd Amendment. However, they have been trying, like with the U.N. Small Arms agenda, and with Fast and Furious.

Sounds like CYA for al-Awlaki

Sounds like CYA for al-Awlaki and son...
They know they were wrong in allowing it...if this passes such action will be legal for future al-Awlakis, et al.

Does anyone

have any additional links or detail on this? Was hoping Tom Woods would have an analysis, but nothing yet. Doesn't seem that their is much yet available that details the potential ramifications.

HopeRenewed - 6/13/2011
Neither should we sacrifice Liberty for Safety nor Integrity for Concessions. True Liberty can not exist in the absence of integrity. Liberty gained through compromise is but a temporary illusion.

Google it

I don't know what you're looking for, in terms of "reputable" links. Speculation runs wild because the writing's on the wall and people are scared.

Make it stop!

Seriously, no. So when you have no nationality anymore, then they can send you to Gitmo as a nationless enemy combatant where you can promptly disappear. And how do they define "hostilities against the United States"?

I lack the psychological capacity to get any angrier at this point.

With liberty and justice for all...who can afford it.


if you are here without a passport when you lose your nationality, you are stuck here waiting for your capture.

Last night I was reading about how Stalin forbade peasants from leaving the Ukraine during the famine his policies caused- thus, people starved.

The restricting of travel is very ominous.


guess who's doing this to you guys?
protip: it's the same people who financed Lenin's revolution and who made up 75% of Cheka, the secret police responsible for the murders of 63 million russians under Lenin and Stalin.



Citizenship under threat.


Just sick

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Stand up For your Civil Rights

Why isn't there more discussion about this?

Our citizenship is under threat.

They can take it

I no longer want it.

Most people I've talked with about this, SOPA, NDAA or anything else have given me responses ranging from complete apathy to enjoyment over the fact that our government is taking steps to "fight the bad guys". I'm tired of living in a nation filled with morons, snobs, bigots and leeches, and I'm no longer interested in offering them my help.

EDIT: I'm sure I'll calm down later, but right now I'm just worn out from dealing with people who can't/won't 'get' it. It's like 1939 Germany all over again...

A signature used to be here!


it's like 1917 Russia.


How long until donating to a campaign

is categorized as supporting hostilities by the victors?

It's probably already done


bump for others to see


"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

"To add engaging in or

"To add engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States to the list of acts for which United States nationals would lose their nationality."

Your country in in COMPLETE FREEFALL!!! MAYDAY!!!

Teach a man to fish and you feed him for the rest of his life.
Teach a man to phish and he'll clean out your bank account.

Taking guilt by association to the extreme

So...if Julian Assange is a declared an enemy combatant, and wikileaks is declared an enemy of the United States, and I've said something in defense of Assange before...am I slated to lose my citizenship?

How far are they going to carry this?

It forces me to consider expatriation NOW.


keep this one under the radar right CONgress?

2 we have to worry about

but lets promote the google bomb