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!your vote will not count if you Overvote/Undervote!

I can not express to you my shock in finding this out. I also can not beg you enough to please, please PLEASE check your local GOP rules right NOW!

Per my counties FAQ in FL:

http://votepinellas.com/?id=34#general

"What is an overvote? What is an undervote?
An overvote occurs when a voter marks or designates more selections than are eligible for a given race or question on the ballot. An undervote occurs when a voter does not mark or designate any selection for a given race or question on the ballot. No vote is recorded for either an overvote or an undervote."

The way I understand this is:
If you do not vote on EVERY issue and election on the ballot your PRIMARY VOTE DOES NOT COUNT and they THROW AWAY YOUR BALLOT.

Others are saying they only will not count the one you did not log a vote for. We need to validate locally!

We will LOSE the nomination if people vote ONLY for Ron Paul and NOTHING else on the ballot.

Please, move this to front page and VALIDATE your county. This is too simple of a mistake to make for us to LOSE the elections!



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Florida Absentee Ballot - Secrecy Sleeve instructions

instructions that came with the ballot:

(snip)
3. Mark only the number of candidate or issue choices for a race as indicated on the ballot. If you are allowed to "Vote for One" candidate and you vote for more than one candidate, your vote in that race will not be counted.
(snip)
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It does not say or imply that your entire ballot would be voided.

The only race listed on my ballot is for President, so I vote the entire ballot with this election.

My take

is that..

1. Over-vote = you voted for TWO opposing options/items (candidates) so you "over-voted" on that specific question and thus it is not valid/counted.

2. Under-vote = you did not vote for ANY of the available options/items (candidates) so that specific "item" (question) is not recognized/counted as there is nothing to count.

I don't believe this means that if you don't vote on all ballot "items" (questions) your entire ballot is disqualified.

It would be nice however to get clarification from the county commission.

HopeRenewed - 6/13/2011
Neither should we sacrifice Liberty for Safety nor Integrity for Concessions. True Liberty can not exist in the absence of integrity. Liberty gained through compromise is but a temporary illusion.

I think you are correct

This topic sure had me worried there for a while. Reading it again I don't think we need worry.

"What is an overvote? What is an undervote?

An overvote occurs when a voter marks or designates more selections than are eligible for a given race or question on the ballot. An undervote occurs when a voter does not mark or designate any selection for a given race or question on the ballot. No vote is recorded for either an overvote or an undervote."

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This INFORMATION.....MUST GET TO HEADQUARTERS

It is extremely clear the IOWA & NATIONAL GOP are trying to eliminate as many votes for Ron Paul as they possibly can.

I do NOT think this is legal, but I recommend voting NO on any of the levies or tax increases.

All voters must be informed at the caucuses. I CANNOT believe they would do this, because it really SMACKS of manipulation. I do NOT believe this is true either.

But, I wouldn't take the chance it isn't either.

What is the big Fuss????

An over vote is if you vote for more than one candidate per ticket!!!

You can't vote for Paul and Romney as the POTUS!! You have to choose one... or else if you choose two it's and overvote!!!

If you don't choose a candidate on the ticket at all then it's considered an undervote!!

Final!!!

" ...for a given race or

" ...for a given race or question on the ballot. No vote is recorded for either an overvote or an undervote."

No, I think the above language clarifies that it's for the particular race or question, on which there is an undervote or overvote, for which the vote isn't recorded. I can't imagine that it would be the whole ballot.

Highly unlikely IMO.

Although it's not expressly stated I don't think this means they toss out your entire ballot, just the office for which you cast zero or too many votes. I have never heard of an entire ballot being voided in this fashion. Not saying there aren't some who would like to see such a provision enforced but it would certainly undermine the illusion of free and open elections.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

That is illogical

That is illogical and probably unconstitutional. You can't force someone to vote on each issue.

that DOES sound...

...illegal as hell.

Everyone on DP needs to read this

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Progress is precisely that which the rules and regulations did not foresee. - Ludwig Von Mises.

Woah, MAJOR BUMP!!!

Woah, MAJOR BUMP!!!

One world, under government, with power and money for the elite

Someone needs to clarify this

Especially for the hanging chad state.

I just read it myself

It clearly states all questions or offices on the ballot have all got to be voted upon or else there is an undervote and then the whole ballot will be thrown out. This needs to get out to all the Florida Paulistas.

Fortunately there is plenty of time to get the word out.

They are tricky down there in Florida.

Reading it a second time

I now think my paranoia got the better of me.

"Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you"
Anonymous

My apologies to the good election officials in the great state of Florida

WTH???

Second person to confirm???

Fresno, CA