THE GREAT AYN RAND's NAME USED TO BASH PAUL

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I am a huge fan of Ayn Rand, I've read many of her books (mostly her philosophical books) and enjoy her point of view on most things. I disagree with her when it comes to religion, but that is my own personal faith.

However I believe that her name has been NEOCONNED, this disgusting writer named Steven Green has written an article condemning all things RON PAUL in the new issue of The New Individualist. Which is published by the Atlas Society.
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/davidpostman/2008/01/a...

This article made the cover of the magazine along with a disgusting photograph of Ron Paul. This magazine has nothing to do with the Ayn Rand I am familiar with, nor with the movement of Freedom and Liberty.

I would urge anyone who purchases this magazine off the rack to size doing so, and anyone who holds a subscription to cancel. This kind of disgusting writing bashing Paul, and in Ayn Rand's name must come to an end.

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dat article is manupid.

dat article is manupid.

Hi, I like Macs and Ron Paul.

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I think it is safe to say that the Atlas Society has been infiltrated by communal pagans of the Straussian ilk!

An interesting notion

It's interesting as a notion the idea that fans of Ayn Rand would even give a third of a defecation to the obviously unsupported ideals of another man.

One of the curiousities of the Rand objectivist movement is that it is now being leashed by the exact ideals which she warned about so long ago. I've heard her used as God in arguements before, with the expectation that her arguments are infallible in every sense and that her statements will last as eternal truth in the minds of freethinking men.

Notice the inherent contradiction in the last sentence there?

Rand would be sickened at the use of her name on statements like the one mentioned, and rightfully so. To quote:

"Green: Ah, there’s not a movement. Not really. Compared to, say, the Green party — which is very motivated, very well structured, and increasingly effective — there’s no libertarian movement. It’s like trying to herd cats. I mean, so much of what libertarians in general believe has to do with individualism.

You know, I don’t think we’ll ever make for much of a movement. I don’t mean we’re doomed to fail. But as a movement, no — I don’t see us ever becoming a major single force."

Obviously, the Green Party is a organized troop of well thought out planners, on the fastest rise short of the popularity of the "Ah-Ha" back in the 80s. "Green's" analysis (oh the irony there) is about as clearly concise as the waters cascading from a punctured septic tank. We've all heard this absurd idea that using what the government offers for the people who pay the taxes constitutes a huge overbearing inconsistency in Ron Paul's platform, and anyone with at least the logical deduction capability of my pet cat Minx will point out that earmarks to not increase the SIZE of the budget, only the allocation. Mr. Green, boy genius, misses this point with the eloquent grace of a hippo practicing ballet. The fact that Paul then votes AGAINST the budget size misses him as well.

"It’s interesting too that when it comes to immigrants, he says, “The economic, cultural, and political situation was very different 100 years ago,” and thus open borders are no longer feasible. Yet he’s unwilling to admit that, just maybe, a high-tech, continental superpower of 300,000,000 people might require a foreign policy different from that of the fragile coastal nation of 3,000,000 farmers in George Washington’s time. In the weird world of Ron Paul, immigration policy should be permitted to change with the current political winds; but a retiring president set our foreign policy forever in stone in 1796."

An interesting point Rand continually makes is to NEVER grant the opposition the ability to set the premises they assert in stone. This idea that Paul wants to go to a foreign policy EXACTLY like the Founding Fathers had is unfounded and absurd. He also misses that the truth of the matter is, in all simple and commonsense terms, mind your own business. The man who minds the business of others more often than not can't set his own affairs in anything even resembling a line.

Eric Hoffer

Another Fan of Rand AND Paul Here

I, too, have always been a fan of Ayn Rand and of her many philosophical writings. I am also a proud supporter of Dr. Paul and look forward to the chance to vote for him.

I am aware, as well, that there are Objectivists who think that voting for a libertarian message alone is to miss the necessity of a total life philosophy, such as Objectivism. But, until there is a viable Objectivist candidate running for public office, I think it is necessary to vote for a candidate that will help move the thinking of the nation away from the collectivist ideas of our current socialisic state.

Do I wish Dr. Paul was an atheist? Yes. But I'll take what I'm given, and Paul has many admirable virtues. For example, Dr. Paul speaks of Austrian economics on the Jay Leno show, of all places. Now that's impressive! Also impressive is that Dr. Paul wants our government to have a neutral foreign policy, much like Switzerland. Here I depart with many Objectivists who think the U.S. government should meddle in the affairs of other nations. This, I have never understood. If world peace is a goal worth striving for, I think other nations have to be left alone, to make and learn from their own mistakes.

As a nation, we have nothing to fear from theocracies. They will always wallow in the Middle Ages, while capitalistic and essentially secular nations, that, by their nature unleash the power of the free-market, will always be able to militarily defend itself.

If bombs are to be dropped for the purpose of "nation building", I could support one kind only -- book "bombs." Dropped by parachute, books about personal and economic liberty, including works by Rand, and guns, so that the citizenry of oppressed nations can mount their own effective revolution would be perfect.

Forgot One Thing

I forgot one thing. The above mentioned book/gun "bombs" should be PRIVATELY funded (of course).

I agree

I am a fan of both Rand and Paul and I am definitely baffled by some of the rationalizations from Objectivists for not supporting Paul. It's pretty nuts if you ask me.

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rand reading

just a quick sidestep from the caucus...i've read The Fountainhead and loved every page but Atlas Shrugged scares me...how does it compare, do you recommend it?

GORP!

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its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
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Fear not and imbibe!

Book Bombs

I like that.

I'm 50 years old and am just now reading my first Ayn Rand book: Atlas Shrugged.

I'm just to the chapter of the first pouring of Rearden Steel. My reading time has fallen way back since I have been so active in this campaign.

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Ahh yes the man himself Hank Rearden, you know he would make a good VP mate for Ron. It took me 6 months to read it the first time and a year the 2nd, that is how good this book is. As for the good doctor getting bashed by these Randian cutups all I have to say is who is John Galt, who is Ron Paul, well who?

Great Book

One of the best books I have ever read. It is a monster to finish, but is a HUGE defender of liberty. Grand book.

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