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H.R. 3166 Enemy Expatriation Act

Now Congress is trying to pass legislation to take away your U.S. citizenship if you are "engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States". In other words, if you attempt to fight government tyranny, they will strip you of your citizenship and you will have no constitutional rights. This is the next step towards government tyranny after Obama just signed the NDAA. Email your Representatives.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-3166



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WTF

With the popularity of the NDAA in the Senate, I have no doubt that H.R. 3166 could pass.

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For freedom!

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In other words...

If you voice that you are not a Muslim hater you are "Engaging in or Supporting Hostilities against the United States"

If you state that it would be right to bring our troops home you are "Engaging in or Supporting Hostilities against the United States"

If you own or support a website promoting Peace with Islam you are "Engaging in or Supporting Hostilities against the United States"

This could be used as a weapon against the first amendment.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

If Lieberman or anyone of those

traitors in DC were to spontaneously combust...would the country mourn or cheer? Simple question.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

We might only have one chance against this.

If we make a big enough commotion about this like what was done with SOPA we just might have a chance at stopping this. I encourage everyone on Daily Paul to register at popvox.com and vote in opposition to HR 3166 and S 1698 as well as send emails, make phone calls, do whatever you need to do to let your members of Congress know what you think of this bill. Then contact the sponsors of the bills (Charlie Dent in the HoR Joe Lieberman in the Senate) and voice your opposition.

I'm reaching up and reaching out.
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out.

That sounds like it could

That sounds like it could include a lot of them.

Awesome! We can strip every

Awesome! We can strip every member of Congress of their citizenship and evict them from the united States!

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

The ironic thing is if this

The ironic thing is if this bill were to become law, I predict that many Americans will voluntarily withdraw their American citizenship.

Imagine millions of Americans doing this as a form of protest?

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Too Late to Apologize: A Declaration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg

This statute is already on

This statute is already on the books, and has been for a long time.

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part III > § 1481

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

H.R. 3166 or S. 1698 The

H.R. 3166 or S. 1698 The Enemy Expatriation Act goes further than S. 1481 in regards to reasons for being expatriated; also, I believe, there is no need for a trial anymore.

I'm sure the current law

I'm sure the current law requires a trial, however with NDAA, I wonder if someone would fall subject to this law if they were targeted for indefinate detention? And in that case I guess there wouldn't be a trial. Frightening.

And in what way does it go

And in what way does it go beyond statute § 1481?

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

The new one claims terrorist

The new one claims terrorist acts or supporting terrorism or something of that sort dealing with "terror"; however, "terror" and "terrorism" are never defined. They could mean anything; not just conspiring against the government or taking-up arms against the government. They made sure in all of these Bills(H.R. 3166/S. 1698, NDAA, The Patriot Act) that they never define terrorism or terrorist acts.

Also, as I stated earlier this Bill does not require a trial to rid one of their citizenship; unlike S. 1481 which does require a trial.

The new act, per the link

The new act, per the link given above, simply amends § 1481, the bill does not contain the words "terror" or "terrorist". Correction, it does not require a trial, never did. The Attorney General is the one who certifies someone as losing citizenship. That's not a matter to be tried in court. That's the purpose of this bill, to strip away the citizship IN PREPARATION OF A TRIAL. Attorney General certifies your lose of citizenship, then the US Constitutional protections do not apply to you in a court. This is actually evidence that they DO follow the law, and when it doesn't suit them, they change it till it does...Same thing Hitler did, he didn't break the laws, when they got in his way he had them changed to suit his purpose.

The Act reads:
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SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘Enemy Expatriation Act’.

SEC. 2. LOSS OF NATIONALITY.

(a) In General- Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481) is amended--

(1) in subsection (a)--

(A) in each of paragraphs (1) through (6), by striking ‘or’ at the end;

(B) in paragraph (7), by striking the period at the end and inserting ‘; or’; and

(C) by adding at the end the following:

‘(8) engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.’; and

(2) by adding at the end the following:

‘(c) For purposes of this section, the term ‘hostilities’ means any conflict subject to the laws of war.’.

b) Technical Amendment- Section 351(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1483(a)) is amended by striking ‘(6) and (7)’ and inserting ‘(6), (7), and (8)’.
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As I said before, this statute is already on the books, and has been for a long time. These things are already pretty much convered in Title 18 2383, 2384 and 2385, which is incorporated in 1481. The only real change is in 1483, which now provides that if you are within the US when these acts are committed, then you can now lose your citizenship. Without these amendments, you must be outside the country to lose citizenship.

Its kind of ironic, the organic Constitution applies to US born NON CITIZENS. There would actually be an arguement to be made that lose of citizenship, for an individual born on US soil, actually increases your Constitutionaly protections, not lessens them.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

I think that's a huge change.

The only real change is in 1483, which now provides that if you are within the US when these acts are committed, then you can now lose your citizenship. Without these amendments, you must be outside the country to lose citizenship.

What you are talking about with the "organic Constitution" applying to non citizens?

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY

we need to get Ron Paul elected if we are to save our country peacefully , if not then well i see it not being so peaceful ,that's just about as strait forward as i can put it because our so called reps. do not listen to we the people anymore !!

This is the problem with the

This is the problem with the lie that is "constitutional rights", if they come from the constitution, then they can be taken away by the state.

Rights come from God, that's important. Governments have constitutional restrictions, I have inalienable rights.

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“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

So where will they be sending

So where will they be sending all of us non-citizens? So where are you supposed to live in the world when you have no homeland?

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

FEMA camps

In all likelihood, that's were you'd go. They have them all staffed and ready just waiting for newly labeled "terrorists" to house indefinitely after receiving no trial. And I'm not buying the line about them being used for temporary shelters in the event of a natural disaster (with razor wire facing INWARD as to keep people from ESCAPING).

I'm reaching up and reaching out.
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out.

They'll be throwing us in

They'll be throwing us in Cuba.. I've heard Gitmo is still open..

"Gitmo North" is in Illinois

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No ticket out...

just "housing"....for the duration....

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

Will this be retro-active?

Will this be retro-active? Will we be going back and labeling the founding fathers now as subversive anti-government terrorists and a danger to our countries national security?

Have we lost our minds and are we going to stand for this?

Legal end game...

This is their legal end game. From the OP, "if you attempt to fight government tyranny, they will strip you of your citizenship and you will have no constitutional rights." They drew the line in the sand.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

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Holy F*CK. So when Obama said "Hey America, I promise not to use this new infinite power on Americans even though the NDAA specifically says I can... don't worry." ... he meant to add "because I'll first just declare you a non-American. problem solved."

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WHAT THE F*CK IS HAPPENING TO OUR COUNTRY.

I've been talking about this

I've been talking about this ever since I found out about it here on Dailypaul from TomJefferson.

H.R. 3166

I hope it dies in committee. More people need to email their Representative. How can a Republican sponsor this bill? The Tea Party Reps should get it killed. My concern is the Tea Party Reps were ineffective on the NDAA and are a minority to the RINOS.

Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged against provisions against danger, real or pretended from abroad. -James Madison